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Grammy Nominees....Very Disappointed! Entertainment
Beyonce, Jay-Z Nominated for Six Grammys 6 minutes ago By ANTHONY BREZNICAN, AP Entertainment Writer BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - Beyonce, Jay-Z, OutKast and Pharrell Williams each collected a leading six Grammy nominations Thursday. AP Photo Missy Elliott, Eminem (news - web sites), Evanescence, 50 Cent, Chad Hugo, Ricky Skaggs, Justin Timberlake (news), Luther Vandross (news) and the late Warren Zevon (news) had five nominations each. Nominations for the 46th annual Grammy Awards were announced at a Beverly Hilton press conference. Among the nominations for Hugo and Williams were three for their work with The Neptunes. Beyonce and her beau, rapper Jay-Z, were among contenders for record of the year for "Crazy in Love," along with the Blackeyed Peas' and Justin Timberlake's "Where is the Love?" Other nominees were Coldplay's "Clocks," Eminem's "Lose Yourself" and OutKast's "Hey Ya." Album of the year contenders were Elliott's "Under Construction," "Fallen" by Evanescence, "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below" by OutKast, "Justified" by Timberlake and "Elephant" by The White Stripes. The dark rock group was also represented in the best new artist category alongside thug rapper 50 Cent, the alt-pop group Fountains of Wayne, R&B singer Heather Headley (news) and dance hall DJ Sean Paul. The song of the year nominations, which go to songwriters, went to Linda Perry (news) for Christina Aguilera (news)'s "Beautiful," Richard Marx (news) and Vandross for Vandross' "Dance With My Father" and Avril Lavigne (news) and the songwriting group The Matrix for Lavigne's "I'm With You." Others were Jorge Calderon and Zevon for the later entertainer's reflection on mortality "Keep Me in Your Heart." Zevon died from lung cancer at age 56 on Sept. 7. The final songwriter nominees were Jeff Bass, Eminem and Luis Resto for Eminem's "Lose Yourself." Among multiple nominees with four each were Erykah Badu (news), Willie Nelson (news), Jose Serebrier and Jack White, who had one individual nod and three for his work in the group The White Stripes. Pop stars Moby, Sarah McLachlan (news) and Dido were among a group of musicians who announced bids for the Grammys (news - web sites), which will be awarded in 105 categories on Feb. 8 at the Staples Center arena in downtown Los Angeles. The program will be broadcast by CBS. Williams received two nominations in the category for best rap/sung collaboration: He performed with Snoop Dogg and Uncle Charlie Wilson on "Beautiful," from Snoop Dogg's album "Paid Tha Cost to be Da Bo$$," and is also featured with Jay-Z on The Neptunes' single "Frontin'." Williams is also competing against against himself for best rap song for his songwriting collaboration on "Beautiful" and the Jay-Z song "Excuse Me Miss." Best rap album contenders are Elliott's "Under Construction," 50 Cent's "Get Rich or Die Tryin'," Jay-Z's "The Blueprint — The Gift & The Curse," OutKast's "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below" and "Phrenology" by the Roots. So where's Annie Lennox? It's as if seh didn't qualify. Warren Zevon got the sympathy vote, but fucking Evanescence and Justin Timberlake as BEST ALBUM nominees??? Post your comments and thoughts. | |
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Beyonce got six fucking nominations? Give me a fucking break. I guess there is a lot of substance behind lyrics such as: Uh, oh, uh, oh, uh, oh, oh, no, no and Baby boy, you stay on my mind,baby boy, you are so damn fine. | |
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No Fucking Way!
Best Pop Instrumental Album (For albums containing 51% or more playing time of INSTRUMENTAL tracks.) N.E.W.S. Prince [NPG Records] | |
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Hey Prince's N.E.W.S. got nominated for Best Pop Instrumental Album - doesn't that make anyone happy??? | |
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So wait...Prince got a nomination for N.E.W.S.??? It might not be one of my faves of 2003, but it sure beats the ass of Beyonce and "thug rapper" 50 Cent.
I'm guessing it's gonna be all about Zevon next year, whether he wins or not. There has to be the one old veteran that everyone praises every year at the Grammies...Bonnie Raitt, Carlos Santana, etc. I guess it's a small consolation that Outkast and White Stripes got major nominations, but still...the Grammys are so boring. | |
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Luckily Prince and N.E.W.S. aren't competing against any dead pop stars like Harrison or Zevon. | |
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thedoorkeeper said: Hey Prince's N.E.W.S. got nominated for Best Pop Instrumental Album - doesn't that make anyone happy???
I'm happy! http://www.prince.org/msg/7/71553 | |
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How do they pick their nominations again? Do record companies shell out a bunch of money to get their overexposed artists a Grammy?
Because that's the only rational thought I could have for Jay Z, Beyonce, and 50 Cent to be leading the nominations... | |
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Anxiety said: So wait...Prince got a nomination for N.E.W.S.??? It might not be one of my faves of 2003, but it sure beats the ass of Beyonce and "thug rapper" 50 Cent.
I'm guessing it's gonna be all about Zevon next year, whether he wins or not. There has to be the one old veteran that everyone praises every year at the Grammies...Bonnie Raitt, Carlos Santana, etc. I guess it's a small consolation that Outkast and White Stripes got major nominations, but still...the Grammys are so boring. Lol, remember when they gave Steely Dan Album Of The Year a few years ago? The collective question around town was "how long has it been since Steely Dan was relevant?". And Warren Zevon's music is bland, IMHO. Pretty but bland. | |
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VinaBlue said: thedoorkeeper said: Hey Prince's N.E.W.S. got nominated for Best Pop Instrumental Album - doesn't that make anyone happy???
I'm happy! http://www.prince.org/msg/7/71553 I'm in a state of shock that N.E.W.S. got nominated! Whodathunk them Grammy folks would have even known about it?! Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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Unfortunately, the Grammy's haven't been taken seriously since Jethro Tull won "Best Heavy Metal" album! That STILL cracks me up!!! Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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Most of the nominees that I have seen so far suck. As if it weren't enough for Beyonce to be all over radio with her worst song ("Baby Boy" is the worst track on the whole album IMHO) off a good album now she has to sweep the awards shows! "Elephant" is indeed one of the best albums of the year so I understand that. Not sure about "The Love Below/Speakerboxxx" quite yet (quite frankly, they nominated "The Love Below" and Big Bio got lucky). I don't even understand "Under Construction" as it wasn't half as good as "So Addictive" (which probably didn't get an album of the year nod). I am happy for Prince though. I'm going to have to read all the nominees so then I bitch more later. | |
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Out of the list I made yesterday I was right with some of the nominations that actually came true...
The ones me & the Grammy's recognized are STARRED From MyGrammys (TM) and the nominees are... Album of the Year "One Step Forward," Les Nubians "Black.Out," Tori Fixx "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below," Outkast "Comfort Woman," Meshell Ndegeocello "Red Hot + Riot: The Spirit and Music of Fela Kuti," Various Artists Song of the Year "Breakthrough," Tori Fixx "In These Times," Joan Armatrading "J'veux d'la musique (tout le temps...)," Les Nubians "Beautiful," Christina Aguilera (Linda Perry, songwriter) "Carry On," Alana Davis POP Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals "Fallin' 4 U," Gary E. Hodges featuring Tori Fixx "Okay," DJ Naughty Boyy featuring Protegee and Reality "Can't Hold Us Down," Christina Aguilera featuring Lil Kim "Things Come and Go," Mya featuring Sean Paul "Crazy In Love," Beyonce featuring Jay-Z Best Pop Vocal Album "Red Hot + Riot: The Spirit and Music of Fela Kuti," Various Artists "Comfort Woman," Meshell Ndegeocello "Lovers Speak," Joan Armatrading "Stripped," Christina Aguilera "Tasty," Kelis R&B Best Female R&B Vocal Performance "Emotional Rollercoaster," Vivian Green "I Wish I Wasn't," Heather Headley "Subtle Invitation," Mariah Carey "All I Ever," Ms. Dynamite "Miracles," Res RAP Best Rap Album "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below," Outkast "Black.Out," Tori Fixx "Kristyles," KRS-One "Phrenology," The Roots "Phat Family 2003: Down 4 The Swerve," Various Artists Surprises: -Prince nominated for "N.E.W.S." -Les Nubians nominated for "J'euvx D'la Musique," I've been bumping that song all year. Glad to see: -Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis nominated for Producer of the Year I was feeling their production on Mya's "Anatomy 1On1" and Heather Headley's "I Wish I Wasn't." -Kelis' first grammy nom with "Milkshake" -Erykah Badu nominated for "Back In The Day (Puff)" -Peter Rauhofer's Remix of Christina Aguilera's Beautiful nominated for Best Remixed Recording Snocking snubs: -Vivian Green's "Emotional Rollercoaster" -Joan Armatrading's "Lovers Speak" LP -Joan Armatrading's "In These Times" -Les Nubians' "One Step Forward" LP -Meshell Ndegeocello's "Comfort Woman" LP -KRS-One's "Kristyles" LP in Best Rap album category -Talib Kweli's "Get By" in Best Male Rap Solo Performance -Common's "Between You, Me & Liberation," in Best Male Rap Solo Performance -Donnie in the R&B male vocal category [This message was edited Thu Dec 4 10:45:29 PST 2003 by JANFAN4L] | |
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Annie Lennox is nominated for best Pop album and I think she is pretty much a shoe-in. I almost barfed when I saw Ahsanti up for R&B vocal for that terrible "Rain On Me" song. Erykah Badu got some well deserved nods in both R&B vocal and Urban Alternative. Good for her. And maybe I'm nerd but I think the Michael McDonald "Motown" thing is kind of cool and I'm glad he got a few nods. Bowie for "New Killer Star" is pretty good too. THe one thing that I think it the biggest joke of all is the new artist catogery. Was it just that bad of a year for new artists or what?
Let me show you. Best New Artist (For a new artist who releases, during the Eligibility Year, the first recording which establishes the public identity of that artist.) Evanescence 50 Cent Fountains Of Wayne Heather Headley Sean Paul Are you fucking kidding me. The only one I can stand is Heather Headley who had a song that on most of the light R&B stations. Other than that, they are all terrible beyond belief. The fucking "Stacey's Mom" guys? Now we have to hear that song on the radio even more! | |
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I'm a little surprised that Timberlake and Beyonce aren't up for Best New Artist. I know they aren't really new, but I'm still pleasantly surprised.
I think it's stupid that Feel Good Time by Pink featuring William Orbit was nominated for Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals. I don't hear Orbit's vocals on there! He's just the producer! Ashanti's Aww Baby nominated for R&B Song is a complete joke! Writing that stupid track doesn't take much skill. Pleasantly surprised by TLC's nomination. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Lol, remember when they gave Steely Dan Album Of The Year a few years ago? The collective question around town was "how long has it been since Steely Dan was relevant?".
. relevence is irrelevent. A good album is a good album. Damn. Keep your headphones on. | |
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I'm glad to see Coldplay, The White Stripes, Matchbox Twenty, Bob Dylan and of course Prince got nominations. The rest I don't really care about. | |
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smokeverbs said: VoicesCarry said: Lol, remember when they gave Steely Dan Album Of The Year a few years ago? The collective question around town was "how long has it been since Steely Dan was relevant?".
. relevence is irrelevent. A good album is a good album. Damn. Well, either way, it was NOT a good album. Fountains of Wayne simply ripped off The Cars' "Just What I Needed", producing the trash that is "Stacey's Mom" And I don't know about Annie being a shoe-in for Best Pop Album. She really should be, but since Timberlake's competing against her, and since he's nominated for Album of The Year (which he won't get), he'll likely win it. And that, my friends, is sad. I was disappointed that "I Know What You Want" by Busta and Mariah received no nominations, though. I thought R&B or Pop Vocal collabo/duo was a sure thing. Guess not. | |
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these are HORRIBLE nominations... especially album of the year.
I lke the Justin Timberlake album. It's a cool record. However, there’s a difference between being a good, fun, well-produced album, and being nominated for ALBUM OF THE YEAR... A huge difference. There’s no way that should be in the Top 5 best albums of the year. My question would be this: If Justified came out by some unknown male pop singer, and it did OK - say it sold 500,000 copies and hit number 25 - would it be up for album of the year? NO, of course not. These things are so subjective. But as bad as the Justin Timberlake choice is... I could live with that. It’s a good album, maybe in my Top 20 of the year. Maybe. But Evanescence? That album is HORRIBLY produced. Absolutely abominable sound. Even if you like her whiny voice and their derivative songs, I don’t know how anyone could say it’s a well-produced album. It sounds like sonic sludge, like it’s coated with pond muck. Murky isn’t even the word. And besides that, they won’t even be around in 5 years. They will end up being another Best New Artist Grammy embarrassment. The girl can’t sing, pure and simple. Yes, there are a couple OK tracks, and maybe Bring Me To Life is a catchy song, but Album of the Year? What a joke. | |
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smokeverbs said: VoicesCarry said: Lol, remember when they gave Steely Dan Album Of The Year a few years ago? The collective question around town was "how long has it been since Steely Dan was relevant?".
. relevence is irrelevent. A good album is a good album. Damn. i gotta agree with smoke on this one... Barbara Striesands "The Broadway Album" didnt push any edges put its still considered one of the best of all times... Space for sale... | |
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Raven said: I'm a little surprised that Timberlake and Beyonce aren't up for Best New Artist. I know they aren't really new, but I'm still pleasantly surprised.
I think it's stupid that Feel Good Time by Pink featuring William Orbit was nominated for Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals. I don't hear Orbit's vocals on there! He's just the producer! Ashanti's Aww Baby nominated for R&B Song is a complete joke! Writing that stupid track doesn't take much skill. Pleasantly surprised by TLC's nomination. I kind of understand Beyonce not getting a best new artist nod. She had a proper debut single with "Work It Out" a few years ago and it pretty much tanked. However, I think it was nominated in something like the remix catogery last year. And Justin's "Like I Love You" got a minor nod last year as well. Also, Beyonce and Justin were such high profile names even before their debuts. I also don't understand the Pink/William Orbit nod but I never understood why he got a "featuring" after his name. He is a producer! And I guess he is a producer with an ego. Yep, these nods will be bitched about quite a bit today! | |
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D'ANGELO NOMINATED FOR GRAMMY!
Category 25 Best R&B Performance By A Duo Or Group With Vocals (For duo, group or collaborative performances, with vocals. Singles or Tracks only.) The Closer I Get To You Beyoncé & Luther Vandross Track from: Dangerously In Love AND FROM Dance With My Father Where Is The Love Stanley Clarke Featuring Glenn Lewis & Amel Larrieux Track from: 1, 2, To The Bass Say Yes Floetry Track from: Floetic I'll Stay Roy Hargrove & The RH Factor Featuring D'Angelo Track from: Hard Groove Busted The Isley Brothers With Ronald Isley aka Mr. Biggs Featuring JS Track from: Body Kiss Hands Up TLC Track from: 3D damn, that's a guaranteed victory right there! don't need no reefer, don't need cocaine
purple music does the same to my brain i'm high, so high | |
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stymie said: Beyonce got six fucking nominations? Give me a fucking break. I guess there is a lot of substance behind lyrics such as: Uh, oh, uh, oh, uh, oh, oh, no, no and Baby boy, you stay on my mind,baby boy, you are so damn fine.
that's what I'm saying.Her album is just trendy,formulaic,hip-hop-inspired R&B,not much different from what every other half-dressed,booty-shaking R&B "diva" is doing. | |
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DavidEye said: stymie said: Beyonce got six fucking nominations? Give me a fucking break. I guess there is a lot of substance behind lyrics such as: Uh, oh, uh, oh, uh, oh, oh, no, no and Baby boy, you stay on my mind,baby boy, you are so damn fine.
that's what I'm saying.Her album is just trendy,formulaic,hip-hop-inspired R&B,not much different from what every other half-dressed,booty-shaking R&B "diva" is doing. I didn't think it was that bad but certaintly isn't this good. | |
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I could think of at least 6 R&B albums from the past year that were better than Beyonce's shite.
And even though Fountains of Wayne aren't new artists (they've been around since the mid 90s), I hope they win best new artist. Even if you don't like Stacy's Mom (it's a catchy pop song, imo), the rest of their album is even better. And all of their songs are different from each other, and they incorporate multiple styles in their music. | |
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jtgillia said: I could think of at least 6 R&B albums from the past year that were better than Beyonce's shite.
And even though Fountains of Wayne aren't new artists (they've been around since the mid 90s), I hope they win best new artist. Even if you don't like Stacy's Mom (it's a catchy pop song, imo), the rest of their album is even better. And all of their songs are different from each other, and they incorporate multiple styles in their music. i hope they win too... but they're definely not a new artist. But they're a great band, so whatever... | |
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jtgillia said: How do they pick their nominations again? Do record companies shell out a bunch of money to get their overexposed artists a Grammy?
Because that's the only rational thought I could have for Jay Z, Beyonce, and 50 Cent to be leading the nominations... O.K., it works like this: All of the Recording Academy Members are allowed to submit who they think should be considered for nominations (for the record, TRC was on that submission list last year). The next part is tricky: only *voting members* of the Recording Academy (these are people who have directly worked on a record/video/CD release--musician, producer, etc) are allowed to vote on who they think should be nominated. So, in a way, yes, record companies probably shell out a bunch of money via memberships in the Recording Academy. Also, only voting members can vote for the final winners. Don't ask me how I know all this. . . | |
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NuPwr319 said: jtgillia said: How do they pick their nominations again? Do record companies shell out a bunch of money to get their overexposed artists a Grammy?
Because that's the only rational thought I could have for Jay Z, Beyonce, and 50 Cent to be leading the nominations... O.K., it works like this: All of the Recording Academy Members are allowed to submit who they think should be considered for nominations (for the record, TRC was on that submission list last year). The next part is tricky: only *voting members* of the Recording Academy (these are people who have directly worked on a record/video/CD release--musician, producer, etc) are allowed to vote on who they think should be nominated. So, in a way, yes, record companies probably shell out a bunch of money via memberships in the Recording Academy. Also, only voting members can vote for the final winners. Don't ask me how I know all this. . . There was a story not to long ago saying that Jive or some other record company had people that worked for the label (secartaries, clerks, I don't know...) sing on a Christmas album. Why? Why not? This made them eligable to vote for the Grammys! I don't know all the details but it was something like that. I saw what i thought was the CD in question in a bargin bin. Should have buyed it just for the novelty. Terrible, terrible record comapnies! | |
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VinnyM27 said: NuPwr319 said: jtgillia said: How do they pick their nominations again? Do record companies shell out a bunch of money to get their overexposed artists a Grammy?
Because that's the only rational thought I could have for Jay Z, Beyonce, and 50 Cent to be leading the nominations... O.K., it works like this: All of the Recording Academy Members are allowed to submit who they think should be considered for nominations (for the record, TRC was on that submission list last year). The next part is tricky: only *voting members* of the Recording Academy (these are people who have directly worked on a record/video/CD release--musician, producer, etc) are allowed to vote on who they think should be nominated. So, in a way, yes, record companies probably shell out a bunch of money via memberships in the Recording Academy. Also, only voting members can vote for the final winners. Don't ask me how I know all this. . . There was a story not to long ago saying that Jive or some other record company had people that worked for the label (secartaries, clerks, I don't know...) sing on a Christmas album. Why? Why not? This made them eligable to vote for the Grammys! I don't know all the details but it was something like that. I saw what i thought was the CD in question in a bargin bin. Should have buyed it just for the novelty. Terrible, terrible record comapnies! Yeah, I believe it. . .it could definitely happen. | |
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