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Reply #30 posted 12/02/03 7:28pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

thetimefan said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

VoicesCarry said:


Worked her ass off for it? All she can do is dance moderately well (and even that's lifted from Janet). Jive's marketing machine produced this success, NOT her. That's implying she can sing, produce, and/or write (she "wrote" those tracks on her latest disc, I'm sure), none of which she can do with any competence.

oh, you're right. touring, recording, publicity appearances, making videos, travelling all over the country (before she was famous) and establishing a huge audience is easy as pie. no work whatsoever.

so why aren't we all as successful as she?

you say the marketing machine made her famous...is that different than ANY OTHER superstar? sure, she had a record company behind her. she still had to do the work to keep the fame. you make it sound like because she has good pr on her projects, she just sits on her ass eating bon bons all day and collects a check.

she has had four albums, four tours, tons of videos, tons of press appearances, a television career before all of that, touring of malls before she became really famous, travelled the country to get involved in competitions, and lots more.

but you're right...that's all very easy. she hasn't worked hard at all.


Yes of course Britney worked hard 2 b a success. But it is the record company, Jive, who helped make her a 'superstar'. I'm not dissing Britney @ all, I'm just sayin' that the record marketing has helped her career alot.

Although I don't think she is a very good singer @ all boxed and is marketed on her image, as r other female singers (y'all know who!)

Jive must have made millions of dollars from Britney's music/videos etc. so she does deserve some credit 4 her hard work I agree nod, however, there r more talented singers who r not marketed on their looks who r much better singers than Britney.

well duh!

i never even suggested that brits was the best. i simply said that i enjoy her cd and that, contrary to (org) public opinion, she has worked her ass off for it.

i'm thankful for record marketing. without the strong arm of the record company people would possibly not have ever heard of rufus wainwright, madonna, tori amos, prince or any other performer that had to bend over backwards to get things done their way.
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Reply #31 posted 12/02/03 7:44pm

VoicesCarry

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

thetimefan said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

VoicesCarry said:


Worked her ass off for it? All she can do is dance moderately well (and even that's lifted from Janet). Jive's marketing machine produced this success, NOT her. That's implying she can sing, produce, and/or write (she "wrote" those tracks on her latest disc, I'm sure), none of which she can do with any competence.

oh, you're right. touring, recording, publicity appearances, making videos, travelling all over the country (before she was famous) and establishing a huge audience is easy as pie. no work whatsoever.

so why aren't we all as successful as she?

you say the marketing machine made her famous...is that different than ANY OTHER superstar? sure, she had a record company behind her. she still had to do the work to keep the fame. you make it sound like because she has good pr on her projects, she just sits on her ass eating bon bons all day and collects a check.

she has had four albums, four tours, tons of videos, tons of press appearances, a television career before all of that, touring of malls before she became really famous, travelled the country to get involved in competitions, and lots more.

but you're right...that's all very easy. she hasn't worked hard at all.


Yes of course Britney worked hard 2 b a success. But it is the record company, Jive, who helped make her a 'superstar'. I'm not dissing Britney @ all, I'm just sayin' that the record marketing has helped her career alot.

Although I don't think she is a very good singer @ all boxed and is marketed on her image, as r other female singers (y'all know who!)

Jive must have made millions of dollars from Britney's music/videos etc. so she does deserve some credit 4 her hard work I agree nod, however, there r more talented singers who r not marketed on their looks who r much better singers than Britney.

well duh!

i never even suggested that brits was the best. i simply said that i enjoy her cd and that, contrary to (org) public opinion, she has worked her ass off for it.

i'm thankful for record marketing. without the strong arm of the record company people would possibly not have ever heard of rufus wainwright, madonna, tori amos, prince or any other performer that had to bend over backwards to get things done their way.


Lol, Britney bent over backwards to get things done, alright.

The other artists you mention all work their asses off producing their music, writing their music, and singing their music. The majority of them can play instruments. All of them can hold a note. And all of them can give an incredible LIVE show. Britney jiggles around for 90 minutes with that purposeless headphone mic of hers.

Honestly though, she may as well not have been in the studio for "In The Zone" - her vocals are so processed on the new record that it's disarming. It sounds like anyone with a barely-there, little-girl voice could be singing. You can tell on certain tracks that background vocalists do most of the work (as Cathy Dennis does on "Toxic", which she also wrote...she does a hell of a job of smoothing out Britney's voice) And I seriously doubt Britney's creative juices were the inspiration for her new trek to the studio...the girl was likely told by Jive "yo, we need some new product...you've been dormant for 2 years".

Paris Hilton's making an album, you know. Will she "work her ass off"? I'm not sure. If you define that as global promotional tours (zoo animals do those), some mediocre dancing, and some touring, then yeah. But where it really counts -- the music -- there won't be anything of her in
it. It's the same with Britney.

Just wanted to clarify my point. Nothing wrong with liking the music, just be aware that she doesn't have an artistic statement to make -- she can hardly even string a sentence together, judging by some of what she's said over the years ("What's Hinduism...is that a form of the Kaballah?")
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Reply #32 posted 12/02/03 8:16pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

VoicesCarry said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

thetimefan said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

VoicesCarry said:


Worked her ass off for it? All she can do is dance moderately well (and even that's lifted from Janet). Jive's marketing machine produced this success, NOT her. That's implying she can sing, produce, and/or write (she "wrote" those tracks on her latest disc, I'm sure), none of which she can do with any competence.

oh, you're right. touring, recording, publicity appearances, making videos, travelling all over the country (before she was famous) and establishing a huge audience is easy as pie. no work whatsoever.

so why aren't we all as successful as she?

you say the marketing machine made her famous...is that different than ANY OTHER superstar? sure, she had a record company behind her. she still had to do the work to keep the fame. you make it sound like because she has good pr on her projects, she just sits on her ass eating bon bons all day and collects a check.

she has had four albums, four tours, tons of videos, tons of press appearances, a television career before all of that, touring of malls before she became really famous, travelled the country to get involved in competitions, and lots more.

but you're right...that's all very easy. she hasn't worked hard at all.


Yes of course Britney worked hard 2 b a success. But it is the record company, Jive, who helped make her a 'superstar'. I'm not dissing Britney @ all, I'm just sayin' that the record marketing has helped her career alot.

Although I don't think she is a very good singer @ all boxed and is marketed on her image, as r other female singers (y'all know who!)

Jive must have made millions of dollars from Britney's music/videos etc. so she does deserve some credit 4 her hard work I agree nod, however, there r more talented singers who r not marketed on their looks who r much better singers than Britney.

well duh!

i never even suggested that brits was the best. i simply said that i enjoy her cd and that, contrary to (org) public opinion, she has worked her ass off for it.

i'm thankful for record marketing. without the strong arm of the record company people would possibly not have ever heard of rufus wainwright, madonna, tori amos, prince or any other performer that had to bend over backwards to get things done their way.


Lol, Britney bent over backwards to get things done, alright.

The other artists you mention all work their asses off producing their music, writing their music, and singing their music. The majority of them can play instruments. All of them can hold a note. And all of them can give an incredible LIVE show. Britney jiggles around for 90 minutes with that purposeless headphone mic of hers.

Honestly though, she may as well not have been in the studio for "In The Zone" - her vocals are so processed on the new record that it's disarming. It sounds like anyone with a barely-there, little-girl voice could be singing. You can tell on certain tracks that background vocalists do most of the work (as Cathy Dennis does on "Toxic", which she also wrote...she does a hell of a job of smoothing out Britney's voice) And I seriously doubt Britney's creative juices were the inspiration for her new trek to the studio...the girl was likely told by Jive "yo, we need some new product...you've been dormant for 2 years".

Paris Hilton's making an album, you know. Will she "work her ass off"? I'm not sure. If you define that as global promotional tours (zoo animals do those), some mediocre dancing, and some touring, then yeah. But where it really counts -- the music -- there won't be anything of her in
it. It's the same with Britney.

Just wanted to clarify my point. Nothing wrong with liking the music, just be aware that she doesn't have an artistic statement to make -- she can hardly even string a sentence together, judging by some of what she's said over the years ("What's Hinduism...is that a form of the Kaballah?")

many pop stars don't have an artistic statement to make. many pop stars don't have too many cells in their brain. it doesn't mean they don't work hard. sorry, but regardless of your opinion on the actual content of work, britney has done a lot to get where she is.
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Reply #33 posted 12/02/03 8:26pm

VoicesCarry

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

VoicesCarry said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

thetimefan said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

VoicesCarry said:


Worked her ass off for it? All she can do is dance moderately well (and even that's lifted from Janet). Jive's marketing machine produced this success, NOT her. That's implying she can sing, produce, and/or write (she "wrote" those tracks on her latest disc, I'm sure), none of which she can do with any competence.

oh, you're right. touring, recording, publicity appearances, making videos, travelling all over the country (before she was famous) and establishing a huge audience is easy as pie. no work whatsoever.

so why aren't we all as successful as she?

you say the marketing machine made her famous...is that different than ANY OTHER superstar? sure, she had a record company behind her. she still had to do the work to keep the fame. you make it sound like because she has good pr on her projects, she just sits on her ass eating bon bons all day and collects a check.

she has had four albums, four tours, tons of videos, tons of press appearances, a television career before all of that, touring of malls before she became really famous, travelled the country to get involved in competitions, and lots more.

but you're right...that's all very easy. she hasn't worked hard at all.


Yes of course Britney worked hard 2 b a success. But it is the record company, Jive, who helped make her a 'superstar'. I'm not dissing Britney @ all, I'm just sayin' that the record marketing has helped her career alot.

Although I don't think she is a very good singer @ all boxed and is marketed on her image, as r other female singers (y'all know who!)

Jive must have made millions of dollars from Britney's music/videos etc. so she does deserve some credit 4 her hard work I agree nod, however, there r more talented singers who r not marketed on their looks who r much better singers than Britney.

well duh!

i never even suggested that brits was the best. i simply said that i enjoy her cd and that, contrary to (org) public opinion, she has worked her ass off for it.

i'm thankful for record marketing. without the strong arm of the record company people would possibly not have ever heard of rufus wainwright, madonna, tori amos, prince or any other performer that had to bend over backwards to get things done their way.


Lol, Britney bent over backwards to get things done, alright.

The other artists you mention all work their asses off producing their music, writing their music, and singing their music. The majority of them can play instruments. All of them can hold a note. And all of them can give an incredible LIVE show. Britney jiggles around for 90 minutes with that purposeless headphone mic of hers.

Honestly though, she may as well not have been in the studio for "In The Zone" - her vocals are so processed on the new record that it's disarming. It sounds like anyone with a barely-there, little-girl voice could be singing. You can tell on certain tracks that background vocalists do most of the work (as Cathy Dennis does on "Toxic", which she also wrote...she does a hell of a job of smoothing out Britney's voice) And I seriously doubt Britney's creative juices were the inspiration for her new trek to the studio...the girl was likely told by Jive "yo, we need some new product...you've been dormant for 2 years".

Paris Hilton's making an album, you know. Will she "work her ass off"? I'm not sure. If you define that as global promotional tours (zoo animals do those), some mediocre dancing, and some touring, then yeah. But where it really counts -- the music -- there won't be anything of her in
it. It's the same with Britney.

Just wanted to clarify my point. Nothing wrong with liking the music, just be aware that she doesn't have an artistic statement to make -- she can hardly even string a sentence together, judging by some of what she's said over the years ("What's Hinduism...is that a form of the Kaballah?")

many pop stars don't have an artistic statement to make. many pop stars don't have too many cells in their brain. it doesn't mean they don't work hard. sorry, but regardless of your opinion on the actual content of work, britney has done a lot to get where she is.



I'd like to see her break a nail tease smile
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Reply #34 posted 12/02/03 8:28pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

VoicesCarry said:


I'd like to see her break a nail tease smile

(gasp)
that's it...now you've really pissed me off!
lol
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Reply #35 posted 12/03/03 5:16am

thetimefan

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

thetimefan said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

VoicesCarry said:


Worked her ass off for it? All she can do is dance moderately well (and even that's lifted from Janet). Jive's marketing machine produced this success, NOT her. That's implying she can sing, produce, and/or write (she "wrote" those tracks on her latest disc, I'm sure), none of which she can do with any competence.

oh, you're right. touring, recording, publicity appearances, making videos, travelling all over the country (before she was famous) and establishing a huge audience is easy as pie. no work whatsoever.

so why aren't we all as successful as she?

you say the marketing machine made her famous...is that different than ANY OTHER superstar? sure, she had a record company behind her. she still had to do the work to keep the fame. you make it sound like because she has good pr on her projects, she just sits on her ass eating bon bons all day and collects a check.

she has had four albums, four tours, tons of videos, tons of press appearances, a television career before all of that, touring of malls before she became really famous, travelled the country to get involved in competitions, and lots more.

but you're right...that's all very easy. she hasn't worked hard at all.


Yes of course Britney worked hard 2 b a success. But it is the record company, Jive, who helped make her a 'superstar'. I'm not dissing Britney @ all, I'm just sayin' that the record marketing has helped her career alot.

Although I don't think she is a very good singer @ all boxed and is marketed on her image, as r other female singers (y'all know who!)

Jive must have made millions of dollars from Britney's music/videos etc. so she does deserve some credit 4 her hard work I agree nod, however, there r more talented singers who r not marketed on their looks who r much better singers than Britney.

well duh!

i never even suggested that brits was the best. i simply said that i enjoy her cd and that, contrary to (org) public opinion, she has worked her ass off for it.

i'm thankful for record marketing. without the strong arm of the record company people would possibly not have ever heard of rufus wainwright, madonna, tori amos, prince or any other performer that had to bend over backwards to get things done their way.


Are u a member of the Britney Spears fanclub wink
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