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Thread started 11/19/03 7:55pm

CinisterCee

The Identity of MJ's Accuser?

from Arrest Warrant issued for...el Jackson

SpcMs said:

i found this post on another message board and found it rather interesting:

The boy in question was diagnosed as having terminal cancer and was given only a several months to live. His ‘last wish’ was to meet Mr. Jackson, which he did at ‘Neverland’. For the next several months he was cared for (at ‘Neverland’) and to the surprise of his doctors the cancer went into remission. During this time a close bond was formed between Mr. Jackson and the boy. Subsequent to a documentary, aired earlier in the year, - when Mr. Jackson admitted sleeping with children in his own bedroom - the boy was teased by school ‘friends’ over the nature of his relationship with Mr. Jackson. The mother moved him and his siblings out of the area that they lived in and took the boy to a psychotherapist. It was as a result of one of these sessions that the psychotherapist made a complaint to the legal authorities regarding sexual molestation (as they are duty bound under Californian law).


GAVIN?!! omfg

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Reply #1 posted 11/19/03 8:59pm

Jasziah

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Makes sense. I heard the same report. The kid said after Michael gave him wine and sleeping pills, that's when things happened. I'm afraid there's more evidence. And though the jury is still out, it doesn't look good.
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Reply #2 posted 11/19/03 9:30pm

ally85

bah. i dont believe that wine and sleeping pills bullshit.
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Reply #3 posted 11/19/03 9:31pm

DarlingCarolin
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Well they haven't "officially" confirmed any of that. They haven't even confirmed whether the accuser is male or female! But it's looking bloody likely to be Gavin.
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Reply #4 posted 11/19/03 9:42pm

Janfriend

When I saw that special with Gavin, I thought it was wierd how he was all over Michael
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Reply #5 posted 11/19/03 9:55pm

Raven

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The charges are for lewd acts on a child under 14. Isn't Gavin a little older than that?
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Reply #6 posted 11/19/03 10:10pm

CinisterCee

Raven said:

The charges are for lewd acts on a child under 14. Isn't Gavin a little older than that?


I thought it was for someone who was under 14 at the time of alleged molestation?

Either way, Gavin was 12 when Martin Bashir's special was aired last year.

I haven't heard about the wine-and-sleeping-pills, and it reeks of fabrication.
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Reply #7 posted 11/19/03 10:12pm

Sdldawn

Gee, who would have thought this was coming..

lol
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Reply #8 posted 11/19/03 10:21pm

Jasziah

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What is Macaulay doing in this pic, and why? Hmm...

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Reply #9 posted 11/19/03 10:25pm

CinisterCee

They could be referring to Gavin because I found 2 old articles online from after the airing of "Living With Michael Jackson" that said he was 12.

"The singer has admitted he has formed a close friendship with a 12-year-old boy, Gavin Arvizo, who regularly spends the night at his Neverland mansion."

Gavin avoids spotlightJacko: 'Children sleep in my bed'

But these are old articles! I'm only establishing Gavin's age! I'm not even sure that the accusations came from him; I only made this thread so someone could help me verify the truth!
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Reply #10 posted 11/19/03 10:45pm

CinisterCee

Jasziah said:

Makes sense. I heard the same report.


It might make sense, but that could make it perfect fabrication too. I have NOT heard this report. The only thing I had heard was the exact quote I started my thread with.

I loathe my own thread! I didn't have the intention of spreading gossip like a tabloid. I wanted to prompt verification of the truth from other orgers in the know, but at a glimpse my thread appears to be speculation presented as fact.

hammer Enquirer edit!
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Reply #11 posted 11/19/03 11:09pm

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CinisterCee said:

Jasziah said:

Makes sense. I heard the same report.


It might make sense, but that could make it perfect fabrication too. I have NOT heard this report. The only thing I had heard was the exact quote I started my thread with.

I loathe my own thread! I didn't have the intention of spreading gossip like a tabloid. I wanted to prompt verification of the truth from other orgers in the know, but at a glimpse my thread appears to be speculation presented as fact.

hammer Enquirer edit!
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I mean I heard the same report on the news -- Hannity and Combs to be exact. They also said that when Michael first heard this family had concerns, he did a charitable thing for them by sending them on a trip to South America (probably to be with family they haven't seen in awhile). The boy does look Hispanic, don't he? It does appear to add up.
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Reply #12 posted 11/19/03 11:15pm

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Know what I think of all this?


I DON'T BELIEVE IT


Not for a second. I know there's a lot of evidence that seems to point toward MJ being a pedophile, but I just don't buy it. It all seems, I don't know...what's a good term? Contrived? I'm not sure what the phrase I'm looking for is...It just doesn't seem real.


Now you all probably think I'm crazy...
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #13 posted 11/20/03 2:52am

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I think it is Gavin too..

If you watched everything yesturday.. after awhile the reporters would slightly slip up and give hints.

* I started to notice in the mid morning all of a sudden they started to blur out Gavin's Face in all the Bashir Clips! (but earlier in the morning that same station just showed the clips like they aired on the Bashir Doc)

* Dorthy Lucy from Good Day Live more or less said it was him.. she is a Entertainment moron who basically just said waaay more then any other REAL Reporter (all the real reporters by 11:00am where hinting) BUT Dorthy more or less said to much.

* The Cops were looking for the Raw Footage from the Bashir Doc/ Rebuttle

* Make a Wish Kid / Cancer Kid

BUT... who is the other Kid??? Maybe one of those Brothers in the Bashir Doc with Gavin?

You know IF Jackson did this.. to a "Make a Wish" Cancer kid.. that is SICK! To use your fame to do whatever the claim is.. to a kid getting over Cancer!! man that is really as low as you get!

This is LOWER then the 1993 Claim.. if he mentally scared & had some sorta sexual contact with a "Make a Wish" Cancer kid!

IF he gave him Pills & Wine .. that is even lower!

* I dont think there is NOTHING lower then drugging a Kid just getting over Cancer to have some sort of Sexual Contact with.

wow
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Reply #14 posted 11/20/03 2:55am

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Jasziah said:

What is Macaulay doing in this pic, and why? Hmm...



And where is michaels other hand??
WHAT IF THERE IS NO TOMORROW? THERE WASN'T ONE TODAY!
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Reply #15 posted 11/20/03 3:33am

rainman1985

Okay the very thing I have noticed is all of this is "inside information" ie gossip
Wait till there is confirmation before you damm this man. By the way anyone who wants to comment on this topic in my mind has no right to until they read the 94 GQ article "Was Michael (or possibly Michael Jackson) framed". Despite the title this is not a biased article there are several points which come across which you will probably not heard such as the boy's father demanding 20 million dollars before the accusations even became public. Or that the boy although admitting he could identify his genitals mantained to the end he had NOT been molested. You must read this article. There is a copy on Steve harvey's website or if you just searched for it on goolge I'm sure you would find it.

Oh yeah by the way Macualy Culkin has always maintined MJ is a wonderful person, not child abuser and is still his friend to this day.
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Reply #16 posted 11/20/03 8:51am

stymie

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Gee, who would have thought this was coming..

lol
Riiight!!lol
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Reply #17 posted 11/21/03 8:35am

CinisterCee

Celebrity Justice has told the story about "plying the victim with sleeping pills" then after that conducting "a series" of inappropriate acts of molestation.

My friend from Brooklyn NY has a different theory. Michael was extorting THE BOY of his painkillers, and now he's on a new typa drug no one even knows about yet! I like that one.
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Reply #18 posted 11/21/03 9:18am

GIOVANNI

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Reply #19 posted 11/21/03 9:30am

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GIOVANNI said:

Its ALL to deviate us people from thinking about the crimes commited by President Bush!!!


Look at MJs eyes...they do not lie, look at his mannerisms they aren't of any kind of deceit, no 'acting'

Look at President Bushs eyes, if you can, watch his mannerisms , mannerisms of a man that consciously knows that he is doing wrong shit and trying to make it look other, right in the world face. The kind of mannerism where you can see he is forcing himself to 'act'.


READ these people and know what the truth is
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at the risk of getting deactivated, i've read this opinion from you twice now, and i have to say you're absolutely fucking retarded if you believe that. even the crackpot-in-chief, soulpower, wouldn't believe this stupidity.


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Reply #20 posted 11/21/03 9:41am

bananacologne

It cant be Gavin - He's 15 now
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Reply #21 posted 11/21/03 9:42am

AaronUniversal

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bananacologne said:

It cant be Gavin - He's 15 now




it's Gavin. all of the press knows who it is, but they're somewhat admirably keeping his name out of the spotlight. a few of them have hinted around though, that it is, indeed, this Gavin who was in the documentary last February.
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Reply #22 posted 11/21/03 9:43am

bananacologne

Well fuck me sideways with a Humvee eyepop
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Reply #23 posted 11/21/03 9:54am

GIOVANNI

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Reply #24 posted 11/21/03 9:56am

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GIOVANNI said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

Its ALL to deviate us people from thinking about the crimes commited by President Bush!!!


Look at MJs eyes...they do not lie, look at his mannerisms they aren't of any kind of deceit, no 'acting'

Look at President Bushs eyes, if you can, watch his mannerisms , mannerisms of a man that consciously knows that he is doing wrong shit and trying to make it look other, right in the world face. The kind of mannerism where you can see he is forcing himself to 'act'.


READ these people and know what the truth is
[This message was edited Fri Nov 21 9:19:06 PST 2003 by GIOVANNI]




at the risk of getting deactivated, i've read this opinion from you twice now, and i have to say you're absolutely fucking retarded if you believe that. even the crackpot-in-chief, soulpower, wouldn't believe this stupidity.


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you just go on believing what you will...like the media is not under any influence of our president.
And so the chain continues and so the sheep into the mouths of the wolves



oh, there's truth to THAT. it's your accusation that this is some conspiracy to get Bush/Iraq off the front pages. now THAT's what's incredibly fucking stupid. in fact, it's so incredibly fucking stupid that there aren't even words to describe the magnitude of how incredibly fucking stupid it is. so we'll just have to leave it at "incredibly fucking stupid."
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Reply #25 posted 11/21/03 10:07am

GIOVANNI

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Reply #26 posted 11/21/03 10:10am

kisscamille

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

Its ALL to deviate us people from thinking about the crimes commited by President Bush!!!


Look at MJs eyes...they do not lie, look at his mannerisms they aren't of any kind of deceit, no 'acting'

Look at President Bushs eyes, if you can, watch his mannerisms , mannerisms of a man that consciously knows that he is doing wrong shit and trying to make it look other, right in the world face. The kind of mannerism where you can see he is forcing himself to 'act'.


READ these people and know what the truth is
[This message was edited Fri Nov 21 9:19:06 PST 2003 by GIOVANNI]




at the risk of getting deactivated, i've read this opinion from you twice now, and i have to say you're absolutely fucking retarded if you believe that. even the crackpot-in-chief, soulpower, wouldn't believe this stupidity.


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you just go on believing what you will...like the media is not under any influence of our president.
And so the chain continues and so the sheep into the mouths of the wolves



oh, there's truth to THAT. it's your accusation that this is some conspiracy to get Bush/Iraq off the front pages. now THAT's what's incredibly fucking stupid. in fact, it's so incredibly fucking stupid that there aren't even words to describe the magnitude of how incredibly fucking stupid it is. so we'll just have to leave it at "incredibly fucking stupid."



Hey Aaron, you and I actually agree on something nod Your comments are right on!
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Reply #27 posted 11/21/03 10:11am

AaronUniversal

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GIOVANNI said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

Its ALL to deviate us people from thinking about the crimes commited by President Bush!!!


Look at MJs eyes...they do not lie, look at his mannerisms they aren't of any kind of deceit, no 'acting'

Look at President Bushs eyes, if you can, watch his mannerisms , mannerisms of a man that consciously knows that he is doing wrong shit and trying to make it look other, right in the world face. The kind of mannerism where you can see he is forcing himself to 'act'.


READ these people and know what the truth is
[This message was edited Fri Nov 21 9:19:06 PST 2003 by GIOVANNI]




at the risk of getting deactivated, i've read this opinion from you twice now, and i have to say you're absolutely fucking retarded if you believe that. even the crackpot-in-chief, soulpower, wouldn't believe this stupidity.


.


you just go on believing what you will...like the media is not under any influence of our president.
And so the chain continues and so the sheep into the mouths of the wolves



oh, there's truth to THAT. it's your accusation that this is some conspiracy to get Bush/Iraq off the front pages. now THAT's what's incredibly fucking stupid. in fact, it's so incredibly fucking stupid that there aren't even words to describe the magnitude of how incredibly fucking stupid it is. so we'll just have to leave it at "incredibly fucking stupid."


I guess you still beleive that bush had nothing to do with 9/11 either, so you would think that the things I am stating are untrue (fucking stupid)

your the idiot not understanding that these things have direct relation to one another. Thats all the interview was from in the begining of the year when we went to war, to ease our minds of what was really happening and what our country was really doing.

Maybe your one of the rich folks that it would be in thier/your best interest to have the real matters at hand off the front covers of every news station and every magazine from TIME to every commen folk mag so that you and your companies can keep the loot that has been payed to you to help conform the american people to thinking about other subjects. So on that tip you would say my theory is "fucking stupid"




blah blah blah... i'm not even reading this shit past the first line. take this baloney back to the crackpot forum where it belongs.
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Reply #28 posted 11/21/03 10:14am

AaronUniversal

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kisscamille said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

Its ALL to deviate us people from thinking about the crimes commited by President Bush!!!


Look at MJs eyes...they do not lie, look at his mannerisms they aren't of any kind of deceit, no 'acting'

Look at President Bushs eyes, if you can, watch his mannerisms , mannerisms of a man that consciously knows that he is doing wrong shit and trying to make it look other, right in the world face. The kind of mannerism where you can see he is forcing himself to 'act'.


READ these people and know what the truth is
[This message was edited Fri Nov 21 9:19:06 PST 2003 by GIOVANNI]




at the risk of getting deactivated, i've read this opinion from you twice now, and i have to say you're absolutely fucking retarded if you believe that. even the crackpot-in-chief, soulpower, wouldn't believe this stupidity.


.


you just go on believing what you will...like the media is not under any influence of our president.
And so the chain continues and so the sheep into the mouths of the wolves



oh, there's truth to THAT. it's your accusation that this is some conspiracy to get Bush/Iraq off the front pages. now THAT's what's incredibly fucking stupid. in fact, it's so incredibly fucking stupid that there aren't even words to describe the magnitude of how incredibly fucking stupid it is. so we'll just have to leave it at "incredibly fucking stupid."



Hey Aaron, you and I actually agree on something nod



that's because you're sane nod
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Reply #29 posted 11/21/03 10:15am

kisscamille

AaronUniversal said:

kisscamille said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

AaronUniversal said:

GIOVANNI said:

Its ALL to deviate us people from thinking about the crimes commited by President Bush!!!


Look at MJs eyes...they do not lie, look at his mannerisms they aren't of any kind of deceit, no 'acting'

Look at President Bushs eyes, if you can, watch his mannerisms , mannerisms of a man that consciously knows that he is doing wrong shit and trying to make it look other, right in the world face. The kind of mannerism where you can see he is forcing himself to 'act'.


READ these people and know what the truth is
[This message was edited Fri Nov 21 9:19:06 PST 2003 by GIOVANNI]




at the risk of getting deactivated, i've read this opinion from you twice now, and i have to say you're absolutely fucking retarded if you believe that. even the crackpot-in-chief, soulpower, wouldn't believe this stupidity.


.


you just go on believing what you will...like the media is not under any influence of our president.
And so the chain continues and so the sheep into the mouths of the wolves



oh, there's truth to THAT. it's your accusation that this is some conspiracy to get Bush/Iraq off the front pages. now THAT's what's incredibly fucking stupid. in fact, it's so incredibly fucking stupid that there aren't even words to describe the magnitude of how incredibly fucking stupid it is. so we'll just have to leave it at "incredibly fucking stupid."



Hey Aaron, you and I actually agree on something nod



that's because you're sane nod


Well somedays I am. Giovanni is way out in left field.
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