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Thread started 11/26/03 3:44am

funkbabyandthe
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alicia's you dont know my name is all sampled

from this old main ingredient song. im quite dissapointed to hear that cos its just a straight, unchanging loop. loops are for hip hop, not soul IMO.
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Reply #1 posted 11/26/03 4:14am

alexnvrmnd

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

from this old main ingredient song. im quite dissapointed to hear that cos its just a straight, unchanging loop. loops are for hip hop, not soul IMO.

You sure it's Main Ingredient?? I know I've definitely heard the music before from somewhere but I can't put my finger on just which song it is. This is just yet another song of her either sampling or blatantly ripping off an old-school track (just "Fallin'" stole from JB's "It's A Man's World").
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Reply #2 posted 11/26/03 4:22am

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alexnvrmnd said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

from this old main ingredient song. im quite dissapointed to hear that cos its just a straight, unchanging loop. loops are for hip hop, not soul IMO.

You sure it's Main Ingredient?? I know I've definitely heard the music before from somewhere but I can't put my finger on just which song it is. This is just yet another song of her either sampling or blatantly ripping off an old-school track (just "Fallin'" stole from JB's "It's A Man's World").


well not sure if its better, but fallin was more like a copy rather than straight-sampled. lots of people do that all the time in music, not saying its good but at least she bothered to play it herself. she did copy from loads of songs on the first album though. one sounded like the mary j song that jacked curtis mayfield. theres quite a few others but i cant remember them all right now. girlfriend was just a loop of odb's brooklyn zoo too which was a bit lame.

the sample is definitely main ingredient though - i just cant remember the name of the song. you dont even know my name is nice to listen to but like a lot of new R&B songs, theres not much actual songwriting in it.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 26 4:22:36 PST 2003 by funkbabyandthebabysitters]
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Reply #3 posted 11/26/03 6:06am

silverjean

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well,
i HATE to disappoint you some more but majority of the singers today are samplin' bored , she makes me "sick" but she is beautful...i will admit that,
*... "ive always said, that if you have to ask for something more than once or twice, it wasnt yours in the first place"...*
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Reply #4 posted 11/26/03 6:22am

funkbabyandthe
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silverjean said:

well,
i HATE to disappoint you some more but majority of the singers today are samplin' bored , she makes me "sick" but she is beautful...i will admit that,


well im not deaf lol, i have noticed!

she is great to look at yes.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 26 6:23:03 PST 2003 by funkbabyandthebabysitters]
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Reply #5 posted 11/26/03 9:13am

Harlepolis

Thats right!

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Reply #6 posted 11/26/03 9:47am

NWF

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Damn, and I thought the song was all Alicia too. pout
Shows how much of an artist she is.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #7 posted 11/26/03 9:50am

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very disappointing to hear sigh
Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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Reply #8 posted 11/26/03 11:18am

gypsyfire

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Its obvious.
I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos
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Reply #9 posted 11/26/03 1:24pm

eldog98

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Well to me the song is still slammin!
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Reply #10 posted 11/26/03 2:47pm

1p1p1i3

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Harlepolis said:

Thats right!



Kind of an UTCM-y look to me!!

Hey - maybe they should remake it. Alicia as Christopher, er... Missy Elliott as Tricky? Who else would be good??
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Reply #11 posted 11/26/03 2:49pm

DigitalLisa

I hear Kayne West produced the song and well he's a big hip-hop producer neutral.
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Reply #12 posted 11/27/03 6:59am

Harlepolis

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Kayne West


FUCK THAT BITCH mad

My friends now found a new way to make me suffer,,,play his "Through The Wire" song while I'm handcuffed in the chair,,,THE HERROR disbelief
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Reply #13 posted 11/27/03 8:47am

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OMG...I Looove this song...I knew she took a sample, but then again, who doesnt? bored Music is rehashed nowadays remember?
peace & wildsign
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Reply #14 posted 11/27/03 9:16pm

csharp57

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eldog98 said:

Well to me the song is still slammin!



co-sign
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Reply #15 posted 11/28/03 3:27am

alexnvrmnd

CherrieMoonKisses said:

OMG...I Looove this song...I knew she took a sample, but then again, who doesnt? bored Music is rehashed nowadays remember?

Don't mean we always gotta like and accept it, either. As usual per her material, I can leave it.
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Reply #16 posted 11/28/03 5:21am

VoicesCarry

The song is excellent, but for me, it's more difficult to appreciate and respect a sampled track than an original one. Her first album relied heavily on samples (or "reinterpretations"). I hope this isn't a trend.
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Reply #17 posted 11/28/03 6:46am

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VoicesCarry said:

The song is excellent, but for me, it's more difficult to appreciate and respect a sampled track than an original one. Her first album relied heavily on samples (or "reinterpretations"). I hope this isn't a trend.

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WoW I am really disappointed. I was starting to think this sister had some talent and was going to leave up to the hype. What a shame!!!
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Reply #18 posted 11/29/03 12:14am

lovebizzare

BIG surprise rolleyes

I must say that when it comes to her me and rick james share the same thoughts
~KiKi
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Reply #19 posted 11/29/03 2:25am

Christopher

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1p1p1i3 said:

Harlepolis said:

Thats right!



Kind of an UTCM-y look to me!!

Hey - maybe they should remake it. Alicia as Christopher, er... Missy Elliott as Tricky? Who else would be good??



lol
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Reply #20 posted 11/29/03 8:51am

Harlepolis

lovebizzare said:

BIG surprise rolleyes

I must say that when it comes to her me and rick james share the same thoughts


I remember that he dissed her ass hard but I don't really remember what he said,,, mind 2 break it down 4 a sista?
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Reply #21 posted 11/29/03 1:51pm

Navjot

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Just got her album today, I haven't listened to it all the way thru yet. But so far it is alright...no more, no less. I prefer the first half to the second, it kind of loses momentum halfway thru.
When 'Songs in A Minor' came out, I couldn't get enough of it for two weeks, after that I lost interest. I'll see how I get on with this one. shrug
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Reply #22 posted 11/29/03 3:53pm

lovebizzare

~KiKi
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Reply #23 posted 11/30/03 3:11am

CinisterCee

lovebizzare said:


"She calls her album, 'Songs In A Minor,' and all of the songs are in E and D. I don't think she knows her grammatic skill, personally.


Rick James said that?

Everyone knows the songs aren't actually in the key of A minor... its just a title with a nod to her initial.

CinisterCee - Songs in C Dorian razz
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Reply #24 posted 11/30/03 7:44am

sumtymes

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

from this old main ingredient song. im quite dissapointed to hear that cos its just a straight, unchanging loop. loops are for hip hop, not soul IMO.




i dig a keys

and i love her single:

you don't know my name

i knew the song reminded

me of an old school tune

i dig it anyway

i also like the chemistry

between a keys and mos def

in the video 4 the single
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Reply #25 posted 11/30/03 8:11am

noepie

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I love that song, absolutely love it.
did i mention that i LOVE that song.







p.s.: I love that song
WHAT IF THERE IS NO TOMORROW? THERE WASN'T ONE TODAY!
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Reply #26 posted 11/30/03 10:32am

Harlepolis

lovebizzare said:

Harlepolis said:

lovebizzare said:

BIG surprise rolleyes

I must say that when it comes to her me and rick james share the same thoughts


I remember that he dissed her ass hard but I don't really remember what he said,,, mind 2 break it down 4 a sista?

When asked about her almost a year ago:
"She calls her album, 'Songs In A Minor,' and all of the songs are in E and D. I don't think she knows her grammatic skill, personally. I think she's 'The Gong Show.' When she did the Donny Hathaway song in front of millions of people and fucked it up, that just goes to show you right there what's going on?What about Rachelle Ferrell, or Lalah Hathaway? What about all these serious bitches that can really sing? Alicia Keys? Because Clive Davis eats the best See's Candies and gives the best whatever, and wants to show Whitney [Houston] that she ain't shit, yeah, he's going to put his effort in Alicia Keys."

In other words: She's overrated as hell and does not deserve all the credit she gets when there are others out there MUCH better than her.



Oh my DAYMN shocked that ol' man has one helluva sharp tongue *whew* lol!

I respect him 4 keepin' it gully and raw lol
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Reply #27 posted 11/30/03 11:25am

DavidEye

Am I the only one who is now hunting for the Main Ingredient song "Let Me Prove My Love"? It's not on the Greatest Hits compilation that I have,but I WILL find it wink
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Reply #28 posted 11/30/03 1:09pm

SefraNSue

DavidEye said:

Am I the only one who is now hunting for the Main Ingredient song "Let Me Prove My Love"? It's not on the Greatest Hits compilation that I have,but I WILL find it wink


I'm looking for it too. nod
I had already assumed that Alicia had samled some old tune. You can even hear a sampled vocal looped in towards the end of the song. Its nice, nonetheless. AK has talent, but she was/is highly overrated. Her last album was average. Hopefully, her new album features more enjoyable cuts like "You Don't Know My Name."
Michael never stopped!
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Reply #29 posted 11/30/03 3:09pm

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I'll have to agree with what has been said so far. I'm not really surprised at all. That's the "rule" of artist today, you use other peoples stuff AS your art form because it's the quick easy way.That has stifled the creativity of today's "artist".

Without getting to the point of "hatin'", the only thing I will say about Alicia is I appreciate her work, but she is WAAAY overrated, and the fact that so many people think she is great is a screaming example of how far the public has fallen in what we will accept as talent.

And, not meaning to stir anything up too much, but I think the dominance hip hop has taken in "black" music is the main culprit in the "watering" down of our acceptance level of talent today.
I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin.
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