PANDURITO said:

Man, of course you can, Pan.
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calldapplwondery83 said:

A 45 year old man should not have children having sleepovers and should not have 12 year old friends. I will assume that he is innocent until proven guilty but if it is proven to be true, those parents should get locked up right along with Michael.

ally85 said:

Doesn't mean he is innocent, just means there isn't proof that he is guilty yet

They should Leave this man alone and allow justice to be served!!!

If he is found guilty...he is guilty, but right now he is Innocent!!!

and if their aren't pictures of mike actually having intercourse with the boy, then they can prove anything...he's a fucking kid!!!
stuck in a grown man's body...and I don't believe Micheal is screwing these young kids.

I have MJ bashed in the past.

Now though, I dunno...

It may be that he is guilty, it may be he is innocent.

It may be that he has an ego the size of the world and needs it inflating after his last album flopped. So for his new album, he is going for a sympathy vote to increase sales.

Hey, I know that option 3 sounds madness. Such bizzare things do happen.
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Therapy said:

I have also considered option 3 this morning on my way in.

stymie said:

Fucking weird man...

Therapy said:

It will get all the fans out buying his stuff again in support.

stymie said:

You're right. Hang on, we're right.

Yeah and OJ chopped off his ex-wifes head because he thought it would be a career boost.

MJ isn't getting much sympathy from all this except from his hardcore head buried in the sand fans who wouldn't be convinced of MJ's guilt even if they caught MJ with his hands down some 12 year olds pants.
This will have a negative effect on cd sales & the TV special has been put on hold.
Since the first child molestation scandal almost totally destroyed his career only if MJ is truly insane would he consider using a molestation charge as a career jump.
MJ is way smarter then that.
This may destroy his recording career.
In no way could he have been advocating an arrest as good publicity.

And lets say that it is true - MJ purposely got himself charged so it would coincide with the cd release. The plan isn't working too well because the release of the new cd has seldom been mentioned in the news reports. Its not getting him the free publicity he thought it would bring in.

One last comment. All you MJ lovers out there - have you shown your support by going to the stores & buying as many copies of MJ cds to show your support? You all should go out & buy at least a dozen copies of his new greatest hits. If you believe he is innocent its the lest you could do to show the WORLD that MJ has his fans support.

We will see how loyal a fan base he has when the cd sales come in next week. If his cd flops that will be proof positive that his fans have deserted him in his hour of need.
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jthad1129 said:

All jokes aside...I saw on the news that MJ did have a Bronco. He supposedly gave it to the father of the child he is now being accused of molesting. He gave it to him when he told MJ that they were having financial issues and his car stopped working. That's kinda spooky if u ask me.

stymie said:

I totally agree with u. U have 2 look at the parents of these children. What parent, in their right mind, would allow their children 2 go 2 "sleepovers" at a 45 year old man's house. As sick as it sounds, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these parents encourage their children 2 go play with Michael so they can sue 4 millions of dollars.

I can't imagine MJ putting his children at risk... they are the one true loves in his life.

DavidEye said:

Yes and we know jail is so much like the real world.

thedoorkeeper said:

...I mean, ahem...

thedoorkeeper said:

Actually the new CD was mentioned in plenty of reports, but of course he didn't do this for publicity. If anything I think sales would have to go down big time right now. Won't stop me from picking up the Special Edition Bad and Off The Wall tho...the only 2 left I need to snag.

What some fail to realise is MJ never had a childhood. While we were playing with toys & friends at a young age, he was rehearsing & performing, with the constant pressure and public always judging him. He just wants to have what he never did. He wants sleepovers. He doesn't want people judging him, as he has been judged and analyzed all his life by the public. He cannot nor does not really want to relate to adults, because they don't really understand what he wants from life now, and too many of them can't be trusted. He knows it from experience.

Some will laugh, but seriously, can you even remotely imagine growing up somewhat like MJ - headlining, being packaged and controlled to sell from a very young age. I'm surprised he has turned out as well as he has under that pressure, especially considering he's a very sensitive person who doesn't handle criticism well - he has to be the best, there's always that pressure from an early age.

But I can understand how hard it must be for anybody to know where MJ is coming from, since they have lived their lives nothing like he has. So he is labelled a freak, a paedophile, and people really can't understand how or why he does what he does when they pull up their CNN or whatever, and watch the daily circus. It's sad coz we as the public expect flawless perfection, but how would we have lived our lives under the same conditions?

.:deep thinking music:.

MJ won't spend a minute in jail. He's not a thug like Tyson who would actually do time. If OJ could get away with his shit so can MJ. Besides, even if he did time, his jail cell would be like a 5 star hotel.

Milty said:

I can't believe you would put RJ and MJ in the same boat. And tell me oh wise and great Milty, What sense would you knock into MJ's head? You have already found him guilty I take it.

on his behalf
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NuPwrSoul said:

Okay,I see your point.But really,what else would it take to make Michael finally see that what he's doing is wrong? He was already accused of child molestation in 1993,yet he STILL chooses to indulge in the same type of behavior that got him into trouble in the first place! If he doesn't go to jail this time,will the trend continue? Will another boy accuse him of molestation five years from now?

As I mentioned above,MJ lives in a fantasy world.Jail is probably the only place where the "fantasy" would end for him,dontcha think?

JimmyNothing said:

Precisely.Whether he's guilty or innocent,he needs to pay a price for his stupidity.What kind of fool would continue to hang out with young boys AFTER being accused of molestation 10 years ago??? That makes absolutely no sense!

calldapplwondery83 said:

True enough.We do not know what kind of evidence has been found.But the fact that MJ was arrested,and had his passport taken away...well,that speaks volumes.It shows that,unlike in 1993,there must be something more than just the boy's accusation.

daPrettyman said:

IF you could afford to buy a new car every other day of the week, you'd probably give one away to someone in need as well.

I'm over these MJ threads. MJ is a bit out there in his approach, I will give everyone that, but I don't think he's guilty. And locking him up won't knock any sense into his head. Now papa Joseph on the other hand...

DavidEye said:

Possibly someone who never had a normal childhood, who hates constantly being judged, who maybe feels the only place he can be himself is with kids - who usually want to hang out rather than sue you or get into your head and sell a story or some scandal.

Of course the scandal bit he hasn't been able to completely avoid.

thedoorkeeper said:

Well MJ's cd came in at #13 the week of its debut.

Not the homerun that MJ & SONY envisioned but in the wake of a HUGELY TELEVISED scandal that doesn't seem that bad.
Not a blockbuster but not a total embaressment.

Although the #13 could be seen as a bad omen.

Whatever! #13 is my lucky number.