CinisterCee said:

i think it was Instant Karma in that commercial, and i don't think he owns that since it was a solo effort.

TRON said:

Just get Anthology 2 or 3.
It is an amazing insight into their recording habits AND great music.

CinisterCee said:

I love the early stuff. I feel like it might end up my favorite period.

gooeythehamster said:

I want to get into and know the normal versions though.

TRON said:

Best albums by The Beatles:

A Hard Day's Night ('64)
Rubber Soul ('65)
Revolver ('66)
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ('67)
Magical Mystery Tour ('67)
The Beatles / White Album ('68)
Abbey Road ('69)

You can't really go wrong with any of those. A Hard Day's Night & Rubber Soul are the least consistant of the lot but are the best out of their early work.


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Sdldawn said:

So she still speaks to him on a regular basis then?

TRON said:

Wise. First get to know the released stuff, THEN dive into recordings like the sublime Across The Universe on Anthology 2

By the way, does anyone know if Paul changed the songwriting credits around on this release (you know... McCartney/Lennon instead of Lennon/McCartney) like he did on his most recent live disc?

Also... is this "fly-on-the-wall" thing a case of "listen-once-then-chuck-away" or does it merit repeated listening (Jesus, I almost sounded like a music critic there... )

MartyMcFly said:

During the Beatle period, it was Lennon/McCartney

It was subject to change at anytime.. Putting two names on some songs that were written seperatly was asking for trouble.

MartyMcFly said:

umm I guess, I've listened to it 3 or 4 times.. its a neat collage of that period.. I can see a majority never listenin to it, however I can see myself poppin that it all the time.. I enjoy their studio quarrels and demo's..

gooeythehamster said:

Some of the thigns I actually started on was the Anthology.. thought it was very interesting stuff.. then the studio material blew me away

Top albums of their career

The White Album
Magical Mystery Tour
Revolver
Sgt. Peppers
Let it Be..Naked
Abbey Road
Anthology 2 & 3
1 album (career spanning hit list)

TRON said:

Rubber Soul and forward, they are one of my favorite bands. Pre-Rubber Soul, I hate them.

The essentials are, in my opinion:

Revolver
Sgt. Pepper
White Album
Abbey Road
"1"

Own these and you will have a great idea as to just why they are the legends that they are. Especially listening to Revolver, from 1966, and just realizing that they change the way we approach music, is just incredible. Of course, their influence would not have been so profound without George Martin, so he deserves some credit too.

savoirfaire said:

Cloudbuster said:

Yeah, I know, I'm sorry.

Actually, I lied a little bit. I don't hate pre-rubber soul. I even own the Hard Day's Night DVD. Instead, what I should have said is that I don't find this era challenging, or aurally stimulating. It is as standard to me as many of the Beatles clones out there, like the Monkees or Herman's Hermits, and that early-60s sound is a dime-a-dozen.

And yes, I know that was thanks to the Beatles, but that doesn't mean that it's time isn't necessarily up.

1965 and forward still challenges musical conventions, which is why I love it.

i have been waiting for this

savoirfaire said:

To be fair, in the early years their singles were their strong points. Please Please Me, With The Beatles and Beatles For Sale are, in my opinion, not great albums. Help! was the first album of theirs that moved slightly away from lp's consisting mostly of single material. But A Hard Day's Night is a fine collection of songs.

Sdldawn said:

i agrees-dawn. i find it funny people get on macca for this. last time i checked he was one of the most important
beatles. he and john were the main singers and writers.
(i dig george and ringo,too) but macca and lennon were the MAin focus. always were. as far as john's view of spector
on let it be...john has a right to his opinion. he's one of the greats. as does goerge.

macca gets dissed a lot for what he does. but what's funny if he died tomorrow the same critics would be falling all over themselves slinging kudos. i go back to the beatles hey-day and i recall john and george getting' "s;agged for some of thei solo albums (some of which i thought were pretty good.) then they both pass away and everybody falls over themselves praising them to the high heavens. i got many of the GET BACK boots and know how they sound.

the group was breaking up and i understand ALL sides of the issues and for one didn't mind them breaking up. they had done what they could in that format. going solo was liberating to George. ( i miss that guy...underrated guitarist & writer)

as far as let it be naked. good stuff. not their besy stuff but GOOD. s-dawm i dig your words...we've rapped b4...
you knwo your beatles man. and i know cuz i go back to ED sullivan 1964 ...

excellent words as always (youngca)

Sdldawn said:

great choices i agree except for LET it be naked...insert RUBBER SOUL and we're on the same page. rubber soul's still gets me after all of these years!

youngca said:

forgot about that one.. Thats a great album.

youngca said:

Excellent post, Totally agree with u.. It also stems from the knowledge of their past/music.. A lot of people speculate and have a lack of knowledge regarding their music. I think Paul has done what he has thought best of the band, and did a damn good job doing it.

Why were the tapes turned over to Phil Spector to produce?
George Martin had produced all their previous albums - why change producers for their next to last album? Did Martin refuse?

thedoorkeeper said:[quote]Why were the tapes turned over to Phil Spector to produce?
[quote]

Its been stated that after all those different takes, the tapes built up and no'one wanted to fool with it.. There are other reasons too though.

i'm pleasantly surprised by Naked. Amazing what modern studio trickery will do. Splicing various takes and some clever, careful editing here and there, has resulted in a "what if" that's been answered: "what if" the Beatles had actually managed to sort through all of their issues and record proper versions of these songs. Of course, they never did. Would Naked be what this hypothetical finished album sounded like? We will unfortunately never know.


But Naked is a great record. I don't mind the missing snippets of studio chatter, etc... Let it Be for once sounds like a coherent album. No, it's not the Beatles best material... but there is real feeling and soul to these songs, a rawness that I like.

Maybe this is blasphemy, but i'd love for the producers behind Naked to get ahold of the White Album masters and turn it from the sloppy, utterly brilliant mess that it is into something tighter and neater. Of course, I would still want the original White Album as well... just as i want the original Let it Be. Phil Spector was treated unfairly over Let it Be. As Lennon himself said, he had very little to work with. And only in 2003 with the technology that we have was someone finally able to make sense out of the endless hours of the "Get Back" sessions.

JonSnow said:

I think vocally, "long and winding road" is superb to the released version that spector had.. His vocals here are more on key and on pitch.. it sounds perfect. I've read some people say its the same vocals just in its orig. speed, but I disagree, there are things very different in the vocals. even the "yea yea yea" isnt at the ending.. which is a good thing.. I'm also impressed with the little solo in this song that can finally breathe.. its a nice turn for the song.. still remains is beauty.

Let It Be sounds better than ever.. background harmonies, and the simplistic keys that give a soulful feeling just really make the song what it should.. It gives it a "air" throughout the song that has more clarity in the remastered version and the solo is more heartfelt in this version.

The little things here and there is what makes this album amazing.. yes, this isnt the best Beatle album, but there is some excitment in this, as well as the fly on the wall disk.. being a collage of a start to ending of studio quarrelling with snippits of great cuts..

Hopefully the remastering of The White Album will come soon, and perhaps a "fly on the wall disk" with much more to uncover, like the entire acoustic selections that were made in india.




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Sdldawn said:

sorry i dont believe that. only paul was unhappy when the original LP was being pressed and hes the only one whos been pissed off the last 30 years. all the other beatles were fine with the original album as it was. so 1/4 of the beatles wanted it like this, not ALL of them. i know ringo has said hes okay with this one and he thinks some of it is good but this is still revisionism.

i dont know if its produced a better album yet cos i havent heard the new one but some things should be left be i think.

This album sounds sooo good to me! I have heard for years the band mates hating the "fixed" over produced one!

I can't wait to hear it!! There is nothing better then stripped down almost punk/live tracks!

Thats when Prince is at his best too

pssst.. dont over produce

funkbabyandthebabysitters said

Your telling me that the other beatles wanted it like that? Check the Fly on the wall disk.. George himself wanted it without overdubs, or anything added to the mix..

People who havent listened to the new album need to check it out first, if u still wanna bitch and complain, come back and get some.

They're actually getting play on MTV now. I saw their video of Get Back one late night. It was basically footage of the Beatles in the studio recording the album.

But goddamn, I thought The Beatles would never see the light of day on Motherfucker Television. I guess that proves their staying power.

I really want to buy it, but it's a Copy Control disc in Canada. So that means they've lost a sale