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2Pac Amaru Shakur!!! not bullshyt, but brilliant! I had the opportunity to see the movie last night at a private screening and its a very good documentary of 2Pac...and his life!
He was basically forced into what life he led...he had the choice to be an artist or be candy pop! 2pac wrote and Entertained us about a fantasy world of Thug Life, before he actually lived it! 2Pac grew up in poverty and had alot of influence from the streets, but he also was a very intelligent and needy person...this led him to writing lyrics about everything that he hadn't experienced and what others were crying about! He took from what stories he'd hear from Gangstas, Pimps, Crackheads and Drug dealers...or just ppl who had run ins with the police over and over again! 2pac never had a police record until he released a record! He basically was swallowed into that whole image of thug life and not actually knowing the truth about it! After seeing this film, I respect 2pac even more and know that all things happen for a reason...2pac wasn't perfect, but he was indeed a very beautiful person who knew how to sell his music off of image. He knew that eventually all of this would catch up to him. He was brilliant, he had a plan and it worked, so here we are 7 years after his death and the man is still a prominate figure in our lives more than ever, whether we HATE or LOVE HIM! 2Pac lives on inside us all! If we actually think about it, here is a man, who was a journalist for the streets, twisted and tailored it to his own with out knowing that...people would actually began to think that it was truth of his own everyday life and something he could relate too when he only had experienced a fraction of police brutality and discrimination...he became a spokesperson for it...and people started to believe it was he that was influencing a generation when he was only bringing it to mainstream, when in fact it wasn't the first time an artist or rap star had spoken of it, but had more merit once 2 Pac said it! What I hope people understand is that 2Pac created his own path and made his own bed hard, so therefore he was forced to lay in it! He wasn't the hard gangsta or the heartless thug criminal monster that the media made him out to be. 2Pac was actually scared of how big he had become, but maintained that hard image for publicity and record sells. He said " I was an artist, I didn't have to tell the truth, I could create my own image through the music, because I am an artist and thats what we do, none of this is for real" -2PAC! Just as Madonna once said...just because I sell Sex, doesn't mean that I sleep with dozens of people or live that life that I project, its all in marketing and promoting yourself to make a dollar, to make a living. So Folx, before you judge the man, please listen to his story first!!! 2Pac was indeed a beautiful and strong black man who had alot of valid points...and you'll see that once you get pass all the media hype and negative publicity! 2Pac wasn't a rapist, he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a gangsta...he was just as any other human being on this earth who had a heart and a life! The Movie gets 5 stars! [This message was edited Tue Nov 11 0:06:19 PST 2003 by NPD313] | |
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"2Pac wasn't a rapist, he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a gangsta...he was just as any other human being on this earth who had a heart and a life!"
Puh-lease! Tupac was a convicted rapist who also shot at two off-duty cops and accidentally killed a boy. He also beat up film directors the Hughes Brothers because they didn't give him a part in "Menace II Society". That makes him an out and out thug. He might not have been a gangsta, but he was a wannabe. But you're right about one thing - he was a human being. That cannot be denied. [This message was edited Tue Nov 11 5:54:18 PST 2003 by JohnnyTheFox] | |
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Fuck Pac. Rest in pieces. Yeah I said it! I get sick of folks glorifying this fool. He WASN'T a "gangsta", he was a back up dancer for Digital underground turned-rapper-turned-actor-turned-felon. He DID make his own bed and now he IS laying in it. It annoys me to no end that so many folks embrace Pac (entertainer-turned-thug) and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" (drug dealer-turned-rapper) just because they caught a few slugs. What the hell did they THINK was gonna happen? You can't do all that dirt and NOT expect it to catch up. Fuck 'em both. Yeah, they were both good rappers, but the media has hyped them into legend status when in fact if they were still living, they'd probably be doing so "hit-to-hit" just like every other artist who has attained momentary chart status. 50 Cent is NEXT. The only TRUE great death in the rap world (that I can think of at the moment) was Jammaster Jay. Nuff said.
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BlaqueKnight said: [color=blue:9c5c68982d:f77b31da42]Fuck Pac. Rest in pieces. Yeah I said it! I get sick of folks glorifying this fool. He WASN'T a "gangsta", he was a back up dancer for Digital underground turned-rapper-turned-actor-turned-felon. He DID make his own bed and now he IS laying in it. It annoys me to no end that so many folks embrace Pac (entertainer-turned-thug) and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" (drug dealer-turned-rapper) just because they caught a few slugs. What the hell did they THINK was gonna happen? You can't do all that dirt and NOT expect it to catch up. Fuck 'em both. Yeah, they were both good rappers, but the media has hyped them into legend status when in fact if they were still living, they'd probably be doing so "hit-to-hit" just like every other artist who has attained momentary chart status. 50 Cent is NEXT. The only TRUE great death in the rap world (that I can think of at the moment) was Jammaster Jay. Nuff said.
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rest in peace tupac
brothers are gonna work it out | |
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no one really gets the point!!
*UCK ALL YA'LL 2Pac was a man and no one deserves death! point blank I'm not a huge rap fan, but i found respect for him after viewing this film... ps-*UCK Elvis he was a cokehead! | |
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I get the point NPD313. Regardless of what folks felt about Pac's "Thug Life", because he died so young, we will never see what he could have become. | |
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kisscamille said: BlaqueKnight said: [color=blue:9c5c68982d:f77b31da42:85fbcc95c8]Fuck Pac. Rest in pieces. Yeah I said it! I get sick of folks glorifying this fool. He WASN'T a "gangsta", he was a back up dancer for Digital underground turned-rapper-turned-actor-turned-felon. He DID make his own bed and now he IS laying in it. It annoys me to no end that so many folks embrace Pac (entertainer-turned-thug) and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" (drug dealer-turned-rapper) just because they caught a few slugs. What the hell did they THINK was gonna happen? You can't do all that dirt and NOT expect it to catch up. Fuck 'em both. Yeah, they were both good rappers, but the media has hyped them into legend status when in fact if they were still living, they'd probably be doing so "hit-to-hit" just like every other artist who has attained momentary chart status. 50 Cent is NEXT. The only TRUE great death in the rap world (that I can think of at the moment) was Jammaster Jay. Nuff said.
wow, I must say that I truly respect your comments about this subject and whole-heartedly agree with you. This time, I don't. -------------------------------------------------
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ya'll are confused.
Tupac was a great poet. Ya'll are lost in his actions but his art was on point. Killing us one by one In one way or another American will find a way to eliminate the problem One by one The problem is the troubles in the black youth of the ghettos And one by one we are being wiped off the face of this earth At an extremly alarming rate And even more alarming is the fact that we are not fighting back Brothers, sistas, niggas When I say niggas it is not the nigga we are grown to fear It is not the nigga we say as if it has no meaning But to me It means Never Ignorant Getting Goals Acomplishes, nigga Niggas what are we going to do Walk blind into a line or fight Fight and die if we must like niggas This is for the masses the lower classes The ones you left out, jobs were givin', better livin' But we were kept out Made to feel inferior, but we're the superior Break the chains in out brains that made us fear yah Pledge a legiance to a flag that neglects us Honour a man that who refuses to respect us Emmancipation, proclamation, Please! Nigga just said that to save the nation These are lies that we all accepted Say no to drugs but the governments' keep it Running through our community, killing the unity The war on drugs is a war on you and me And yet they say this is the Home of The Free But if you ask me its all about hyprocracy The constitution, Yo, it don't apply to me Lady Liberty still the bitch lied to me Steady strong nobody's gonna like what I pumpin' But its wrong to keeping someone from learning something So get up, its time to start nation building I'm fed up, we gotta start teaching childern That they can be all that they wanna to be There's much more to life than just poverty This is defaintly ahhh words of wisdom AMERIKA, AMERIKA, AMERIKKKA I charge you with the crime of rape, murder, and assault For suppressing and punishing my people I charge you with robery for robbing me of my history I charge you with false imprisonment for keeping me Trapped in the projects And the jury finds you guilty on all accounts And you are to serve the consequences of your evil schemes Prosecutor do you have any more evidience Words of Wisdom They shine upon the strength of an nation Conquer the enemy on with education Protect thy self, reach with what you wanna do Know thy self, teach what we been through On with the knowledge of the place, then No one will ever oppress this race again No Malcolm X in my history text Why is that? Cause he tried to educate and liberate all blacks Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week? He told blacks, if they get smacked, turn the other cheek I don't get it, so many questions went through my mind I get sweated, They act as if asking questions is a crime But forget it, one day I'm gonna prove them wrong Now every brother had to smother on the welfare line The american dream, though it seems it attainable They're pulling your sleave, don't believe Cause it will strangle yah Pulling the life of your brain, I can't explain Beg as you can obtain from which you came Swear that your mother is living in equality Forgeting your brother that's living her apology Thought they had us beat when they took our kids But the battle ain't over till the black man sings Words of Wisdom But the battle ain't over till the black man sings Words of Wisdom NIGHTMARE thats what I am America's nightmare I am what you made me The hate and evil that you gave me I shine of a reminder of what you have done to my people for Four hundred plus years You should be scared You should be running You should be trying to silence me ha ha But you can not escape fate Well it is my turn to come Just as you rose you shall fall By my hands Amerika, You reap what you sow 2pacalypse America's Nightmare Ice Cube and Da Lench Mob America's Nightmare Above the Law America's Nightmare Paris America's Nightmare Public Enemy America's Nightmare Krs-One America's Nightmare Mutulu Shakur America's Nightmare Geronimo Pratt America's Nightmare Assada Shakur America's Nightmare | |
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BlaqueKnight said: [color=blue:9c5c68982d:7e83ff4f6a]Fuck Pac. Rest in pieces. Yeah I said it! I get sick of folks glorifying this fool. He WASN'T a "gangsta", he was a back up dancer for Digital underground turned-rapper-turned-actor-turned-felon. He DID make his own bed and now he IS laying in it. It annoys me to no end that so many folks embrace Pac (entertainer-turned-thug) and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" (drug dealer-turned-rapper) just because they caught a few slugs. What the hell did they THINK was gonna happen? You can't do all that dirt and NOT expect it to catch up. Fuck 'em both. Yeah, they were both good rappers, but the media has hyped them into legend status when in fact if they were still living, they'd probably be doing so "hit-to-hit" just like every other artist who has attained momentary chart status. 50 Cent is NEXT. The only TRUE great death in the rap world (that I can think of at the moment) was Jammaster Jay. Nuff said.
I've got to hand it to you for actually saying that. Wow! But, you picked the right forum to post it because any other urban site would shred you to pieces. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: [color=blue:9c5c68982d:bcf8d4ac2d]Fuck Pac. Rest in pieces. Yeah I said it! I get sick of folks glorifying this fool. He WASN'T a "gangsta", he was a back up dancer for Digital underground turned-rapper-turned-actor-turned-felon. He DID make his own bed and now he IS laying in it. It annoys me to no end that so many folks embrace Pac (entertainer-turned-thug) and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" (drug dealer-turned-rapper) just because they caught a few slugs. What the hell did they THINK was gonna happen? You can't do all that dirt and NOT expect it to catch up. Fuck 'em both. Yeah, they were both good rappers, but the media has hyped them into legend status when in fact if they were still living, they'd probably be doing so "hit-to-hit" just like every other artist who has attained momentary chart status. 50 Cent is NEXT. The only TRUE great death in the rap world (that I can think of at the moment) was Jammaster Jay. Nuff said.
Dayumn!! I usually enjoy reading your opinion but this time I think your kinda flyin off the handle. I was gonna start a thread a while back asking " does anybody not like Pac" but this says it all!!! In a sense I can kind of see where you are coming from but as far as the media hype'n these boys I think your wrong. Some peeps need to quit watching/following/believing the media and see for themselves if these men were worthy and/or legends. I really think Pac knew that he had numbers on his head and wrote his lyrics around just that. What would you do if you were him, write about carnivals,parades or fairytales? As for Biggie and many other rappers I'd say he wasn't the only one that used to deal drugs there are many but since when is it right to hold things against peoples wrong doings? I used to deal for 11 years not having a direction in life and it took getting busted, doin time, and restarting my life for me to appreciate it! I would never try to change your mind for nuttin BK, you critisize in a very interesting manner and I really dig your writing style but oh god when I see ya come all aggresive at Pac or B.I.G. would or could you have handled yourself better if you were in any of their shoes? As for Jam Master Jay, don't be so sure he was innocently killed... maybe he once sold drugs and shit came back to hime too... unless of course he's an  -------------------------------------------------
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Rhondab said: ya'll are confused.
Tupac was a great poet. Ya'll are lost in his actions but his art was on point. Killing us one by one In one way or another American will find a way to eliminate the problem One by one The problem is the troubles in the black youth of the ghettos And one by one we are being wiped off the face of this earth At an extremly alarming rate And even more alarming is the fact that we are not fighting back Brothers, sistas, niggas When I say niggas it is not the nigga we are grown to fear It is not the nigga we say as if it has no meaning But to me It means Never Ignorant Getting Goals Acomplishes, nigga Niggas what are we going to do Walk blind into a line or fight Fight and die if we must like niggas This is for the masses the lower classes The ones you left out, jobs were givin', better livin' But we were kept out Made to feel inferior, but we're the superior Break the chains in out brains that made us fear yah Pledge a legiance to a flag that neglects us Honour a man that who refuses to respect us Emmancipation, proclamation, Please! Nigga just said that to save the nation These are lies that we all accepted Say no to drugs but the governments' keep it Running through our community, killing the unity The war on drugs is a war on you and me And yet they say this is the Home of The Free But if you ask me its all about hyprocracy The constitution, Yo, it don't apply to me Lady Liberty still the bitch lied to me Steady strong nobody's gonna like what I pumpin' But its wrong to keeping someone from learning something So get up, its time to start nation building I'm fed up, we gotta start teaching childern That they can be all that they wanna to be There's much more to life than just poverty This is defaintly ahhh words of wisdom AMERIKA, AMERIKA, AMERIKKKA I charge you with the crime of rape, murder, and assault For suppressing and punishing my people I charge you with robery for robbing me of my history I charge you with false imprisonment for keeping me Trapped in the projects And the jury finds you guilty on all accounts And you are to serve the consequences of your evil schemes Prosecutor do you have any more evidience Words of Wisdom They shine upon the strength of an nation Conquer the enemy on with education Protect thy self, reach with what you wanna do Know thy self, teach what we been through On with the knowledge of the place, then No one will ever oppress this race again No Malcolm X in my history text Why is that? Cause he tried to educate and liberate all blacks Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week? He told blacks, if they get smacked, turn the other cheek I don't get it, so many questions went through my mind I get sweated, They act as if asking questions is a crime But forget it, one day I'm gonna prove them wrong Now every brother had to smother on the welfare line The american dream, though it seems it attainable They're pulling your sleave, don't believe Cause it will strangle yah Pulling the life of your brain, I can't explain Beg as you can obtain from which you came Swear that your mother is living in equality Forgeting your brother that's living her apology Thought they had us beat when they took our kids But the battle ain't over till the black man sings Words of Wisdom But the battle ain't over till the black man sings Words of Wisdom NIGHTMARE thats what I am America's nightmare I am what you made me The hate and evil that you gave me I shine of a reminder of what you have done to my people for Four hundred plus years You should be scared You should be running You should be trying to silence me ha ha But you can not escape fate Well it is my turn to come Just as you rose you shall fall By my hands Amerika, You reap what you sow 2pacalypse America's Nightmare Ice Cube and Da Lench Mob America's Nightmare Above the Law America's Nightmare Paris America's Nightmare Public Enemy America's Nightmare Krs-One America's Nightmare Mutulu Shakur America's Nightmare Geronimo Pratt America's Nightmare Assada Shakur America's Nightmare Your still here? I love it!!! Nice POst!!! 
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Pejman..I pop on and off...how are you doing? 
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Rhondab said: Pejman..I pop on and off...how are you doing?
yeah, people forget Jay-Z was a dealer too.  -------------------------------------------------
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BlaqueKnight said: [color=blue:9c5c68982d:0518c954fe]Fuck Pac. Rest in pieces. Yeah I said it! I get sick of folks glorifying this fool. He WASN'T a "gangsta", he was a back up dancer for Digital underground turned-rapper-turned-actor-turned-felon. He DID make his own bed and now he IS laying in it. It annoys me to no end that so many folks embrace Pac (entertainer-turned-thug) and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" (drug dealer-turned-rapper) just because they caught a few slugs. What the hell did they THINK was gonna happen? You can't do all that dirt and NOT expect it to catch up. Fuck 'em both. Yeah, they were both good rappers, but the media has hyped them into legend status when in fact if they were still living, they'd probably be doing so "hit-to-hit" just like every other artist who has attained momentary chart status. 50 Cent is NEXT. The only TRUE great death in the rap world (that I can think of at the moment) was Jammaster Jay. Nuff said.
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okaypimpn said: BlaqueKnight said: Fuck Pac. Rest in pieces. Yeah I said it! I get sick of folks glorifying this fool. He WASN'T a "gangsta", he was a back up dancer for Digital underground turned-rapper-turned-actor-turned-felon. He DID make his own bed and now he IS laying in it. It annoys me to no end that so many folks embrace Pac (entertainer-turned-thug) and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" (drug dealer-turned-rapper) just because they caught a few slugs. What the hell did they THINK was gonna happen? You can't do all that dirt and NOT expect it to catch up. Fuck 'em both. Yeah, they were both good rappers, but the media has hyped them into legend status when in fact if they were still living, they'd probably be doing so "hit-to-hit" just like every other artist who has attained momentary chart status. 50 Cent is NEXT. The only TRUE great death in the rap world (that I can think of at the moment) was Jammaster Jay. Nuff said.
I've got to hand it to you for actually saying that. Wow! But, you picked the right forum to post it because any other urban site would shred you to pieces. LOL...BlaqueKnight always tells it like it it is.Even when you don't fully agree with him,you gotta respect the way he makes his point.On this particular topic,I'm torn.I know that Tupac was a thug and that,yes,he is glorified by the media and his fans.But at the same time,I feel that he was really,really talented,certainly better than any of these other so-called "thug rappers" on the charts right now.The sad thing is,he and Biggie were killed before they had a chance to gain a new perspective and turn their lives around.That's the real tragedy. | |
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DavidEye said: LOL...BlaqueKnight always tells it like it it is.Even when you don't fully agree with him,you gotta respect the way he makes his point.On this particular topic,I'm torn.I know that Tupac was a thug and that,yes,he is glorified by the media and his fans.But at the same time,I feel that he was really,really talented,certainly better than any of these other so-called "thug rappers" on the charts right now.The sad thing is,he and Biggie were killed before they had a chance to gain a new perspective and turn their lives around.That's the real tragedy.
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