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Thread started 11/03/03 10:48am

abierman

The Britney & Madonna vid: all of a sudden Madonna looks like an old lady....

A not so smart move by an otherwise smart lady?

What do you think?
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Reply #1 posted 11/03/03 10:51am

Christopher

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i seen the video she dont look that old...but the song really is what i dont think is very impressive...
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Reply #2 posted 11/03/03 11:02am

DavidEye

Here's my take...

I don't like Britney Spears and I didn't really like the idea of Madonna collaborating with her.Oh,"the kiss" was cool and all (from a public relations standpoint) but I wasn't interested in hearing a song with the two of them.So,I wasn't excited about this project.

But the other day I saw the video and I liked it.No,I'm not gonna go out and buy the song or Britney's CD...lol...but it's a fun,sexy video.It's better than I thought it would be.It'll be fun turning on MTV these next few months and seeing Madonna doing her thing,even if it's in somebody else's video...lol


So,no I don't think it's an unwise move by Madonna.It won't really affect her career either way.It's probably something she just did for the hell of it (like the 'Will and Grace' episode),something to tide her fans over until her next major project.
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Reply #3 posted 11/03/03 11:20am

Ellie

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I wish Madge would stop all that crawling about on the floor while looking seductively at the camera. Still, she looks great in the video. I like the white outfit.

The song is as bit weird. It's got nice enough production and I'd definitely dance to it in a club or something. I think both of them sound awful on the record though.
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Reply #4 posted 11/03/03 11:22am

abierman

do you think she would have done when her latest cd had not been such a bomb?

I observe both Britney and Madonna, but I do not go out and get their records since it is not the kind of music I like. I am interested in the marketing concepts that are behind these two women. I have the feeling that in this video Madonna is not the tough lady of sex that she always has been. This might be the first time.
I do think Madonna looks old and Britney steels the show in this video, I am not so sure if Madonna had foreseen this...
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Reply #5 posted 11/03/03 11:44am

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I like the song...until bingo-arms Madonna turns up and starts ruining it with her 'Hey Britney...' bollocks.

She's just trying to remain 'cool' and 'down with the kids', when she needs to start acting her age. Ray of Light proved that she can still be cutting edge, but I don't think that 'collaborating' with Britney helps either of them to be honest
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Reply #6 posted 11/03/03 11:57am

abierman

phunkymunky said:

I like the song...until bingo-arms Madonna turns up and starts ruining it with her 'Hey Britney...' bollocks.

She's just trying to remain 'cool' and 'down with the kids', when she needs to start acting her age. Ray of Light proved that she can still be cutting edge, but I don't think that 'collaborating' with Britney helps either of them to be honest



I'm afraid I have to co-sign with that!
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Reply #7 posted 11/03/03 4:16pm

Anxiety

If Madonna's collaborating with Britney as an attempt to stay "fresh", she's at least two years too late.
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Reply #8 posted 11/03/03 4:33pm

jthad1129

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I really don't like the video. I think it would have been great to see them meet at the club and dance together (a la Michael and Janet in Scream). The dancers could have been in the background behind them but it would made it a lot more entertaining. Having Britney in one room and Mady in another just didn't work. Even when they are together in the bed frame scene it is so weak.

c'mon-
All my people on the floor, let me see ya dance!!

They should have tore it up on a long dance sequence
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Reply #9 posted 11/03/03 4:45pm

NPD313

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MADONNA DOESN'T LOOK OLD...SHE JUST LOOKS MATURE IN THE VIDEO, AND NOT TRYING TO LOOK 20 YEARS OLD...SHE LOOKS GREAT AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IF I DIDN'T KNOW HER REAL AGE, I WOULDVE GUESSED SHE WAS AROUND EARLY 30'S.


I THINK SHE LOOKS GREAT AND HAS A MOM APPEAL NOW A-DAYS!
THATS ALL.

I LOVE THE NEW SONG NOW! THE DANCING IS HOT ON BOTH PARTS
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Reply #10 posted 11/03/03 5:05pm

JANFAN4L

Britney's not going to suddenly transform in a "critical darling" by paring with Madonna. The logic is simple... Britney wants to stay in the spotlight, shed the innocent girl image, and most importantly SHE VYING FOR MADONNA'S LOYAL GAY MALE FAN BASE. <---period, point blank.)
[This message was edited Mon Nov 3 9:08:23 PST 2003 by JANFAN4L]
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Reply #11 posted 11/03/03 5:32pm

TRON

Try watching Swept Away and then get back to us about looking old.
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Reply #12 posted 11/03/03 6:19pm

jtgillia

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I think Madonna looks really good in this video. Certainly, she looks better than she did in that awful "Hollywood" video...
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Reply #13 posted 11/03/03 8:52pm

jthad1129

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jtgillia said:

I think Madonna looks really good in this video. Certainly, she looks better than she did in that awful "Hollywood" video...


shocked shocked I can't belive you said that. Hollywood was amazing and a great Madonna video

This new one looks like she went to the book signing for the English Roses and then hopped over to the video shoot (Mommy Dearest in the Zone)
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Reply #14 posted 11/03/03 9:08pm

JANFAN4L

abierman said:

A not so smart move by an otherwise smart lady?

What do you think?


The last video Madonna looked decent in was "Beautiful Stranger" (I actually like that song). For the new Britney video, uhhh no. Bitch need to put in the byline -- Britney Spears "Me Against The Music (featuring Madonna with choreography inspired by Janet). What's up with my girl Madonna doin' the yoga splits in da video! HAHAH

Oh yeah, I'm selling the Missy/Madonna Gap CD for $20 dollars, if anyone's interested HoLla :-X
[This message was edited Mon Nov 3 13:10:03 PST 2003 by JANFAN4L]
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Reply #15 posted 11/03/03 10:49pm

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old?

i think she looks sexier than most of the women in music videos today.

and she doesn't need to take her clothes off to pull it off. i'm so glad she finally realized that.
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Reply #16 posted 11/03/03 11:00pm

theblueangel

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TRON said:

Try watching Swept Away and then get back to us about looking old.


RIGHT??!!

The only redeeming part of that movie is watching her get beat. I know, it's bad, but I enjoyed it.
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

Need more sleep than coke or methamphetamine.
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Reply #17 posted 11/04/03 2:17am

SynthiaRose

In the video, I thought Madonna looked better than she has in a long time.

I love the video and I thought the concept of them sensing each other in separate rooms was unique and sensual. I loved them dancing on the wall which kept them separated.

In short, Madonna made the video for me. I'm still a huge fan.

Now, What I don't like is Britney. She's empty as an artist.

She is not the next coming of Madonna and I despise that Madonna keeps trying to endorse her and take advantage of her fandom by shoving Britney down our throats.

I get the impression Madonna thinks Britney is an incarnation of her spirit. Not so. Here's why:

1. Britney feigns sexuality, but she can't own it like Madonna. The poser breaks her own mirage by giggling and talking like a little girl. Hearing her speak makes me want to scream. Not only does she sound silly but she has a three-year old's vocabulary. She sounds like a valley girl stereotype. It's really sad. The girl is so immature, so it's basically sick for her to try to flaunt a sexuality she's hasn't legitimately grown into.


2. Britney has no thoughts. Now, neither she nor Madonna are great vocal stars. But Madonna had something to say in a unique, artistically provocative way. Her metaphors and juxtaposition of women's roles, religion, sexuality, and social politics in pop culture music was great. And she had a powerful independent spirit that came through in all her music. Britney is fucking made. A puppet. I keep waiting for a hand to come out from her ass. Britney doesn't say anything provocative or worthy of reflection. To quote the stupid bitch, "it's like,um, frickin' um.." Annoying!

3. Britney is not inventive. She'll never be able to chart her career through new, evolving phases (like Madonna did with ease) without help from Madonna and other sculptors. Madonna's creativity far surpasses this twit's. Is she doing anything new? She dances like Janet. Tries to mimick Madonna's sexual glory. It just ain't workin' and I'm tired of seeing this chick on T.V. next to an icon.
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Reply #18 posted 11/04/03 2:20am

endorphin74

I thought Madonna looked awesome in the video...I do wish she'd get over the britney fixation, but I thought she looked great
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Reply #19 posted 11/04/03 2:23am

SynthiaRose

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It just ain't workin' and I'm tired of seeing this chick on T.V. next to an icon.


You know what. It is working. because she's stealing all the tried and successful formulas and blending them together. It's hard for her not to be appealing. She's a polished amalgamation of all the things that came before her. And the lack of originality is despicable (but I could say that about a lot of current talents... too many to name).
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Reply #20 posted 11/04/03 3:13am

jessyMD32781

I think that both Madonna and Britney look okay in the video and the video itself has some pretty good choreography but the song is terrible. I work at an animal hospital and when that song comes on the radio it actually disturbs the animals who are recovering from surgery and whatnot. I have to lower it down so they don't get all pissed off.
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Reply #21 posted 11/04/03 8:48am

abierman

TRON said:

Try watching Swept Away and then get back to us about looking old.



I believe that movie is forbidden on this side of the Atlantic...
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Reply #22 posted 11/04/03 9:25am

TonyC

Yeah, Madonna is turning into an old hag, but it happens to the best of them. She had her turn being a young piece of ass and now she hat hit the wall. It will happen to Britney too in time. But they both have hundreds of millions of dollars, so I'm sure they can deal with it.
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Reply #23 posted 11/04/03 1:06pm

Rhondab

Madonna looks good...ya'll are trippin'. She isn't 20..she is 45.


The song sucks..Britney sucks. Britney has nothing to say. If you look at Pink and Christina, their second cds showed that they want a voice. Britney just wants to grab Madonna's coat tails and say "look at me". She sucks.

Lookin' my daughters christmas list of music she wants...I don't see Britney ANYWHERE.
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Reply #24 posted 11/04/03 1:07pm

IstenSzek

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The thing I like most about the video is the smoking men
on the couch.

Woof!
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #25 posted 11/04/03 1:19pm

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jessyMD32781 said:

I work at an animal hospital and when that song comes on the radio it actually disturbs the animals who are recovering from surgery and whatnot. I have to lower it down so they don't get all pissed off.

lol

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Reply #26 posted 11/04/03 1:19pm

DavidEye

TonyC said:

Yeah, Madonna is turning into an old hag, but it happens to the best of them. She had her turn being a young piece of ass and now she hat hit the wall. It will happen to Britney too in time. But they both have hundreds of millions of dollars, so I'm sure they can deal with it.



What are you talking about? Considering that she is a 45-year old mother of two,Madonna looks DAMN good.She's got a body that teenage girls would kill for!
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Reply #27 posted 11/04/03 1:52pm

endorphin74

Rhondab said:

Lookin' my daughters christmas list of music she wants...I don't see Britney ANYWHERE.



THANK GOD!

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Reply #28 posted 11/04/03 9:50pm

PortiaDeParis

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The thing I like most about the video is the smoking men
on the couch.

Woof!


i think a co-sign woof is in order!

drool
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Reply #29 posted 11/05/03 7:27am

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She still looks better than many 45 year olds but lets face it - the wrinkles have been showing for a while now. You can only hide behind lenses & filters for so long. Pretty soon we won't even be able to see her face in interviews b/c the lens will be so damn fuzzy lol
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