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Reply #30 posted 11/05/03 7:59am

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Well I just joined the new cure email list... so hopefully i'll be getting word soon on that tracklist...

but here's what i hope will be on it

see the children
i just need myself
plastic passion (demo)
i want to be old
meathook
so what
it's not you
world war
i'm cold
do the hansa
pillbox tales (hopefully the 1986 version)
heroin face
fire in cairo (peel sessions)
another journey by train
descent
splintered in her head
just one kiss (long version)
mr. pink eyes
new day
throw your foot
happy the man
the exploding boy
a few hours after this
stop dead
a man inside my mouth
hey you (long version)
breathe
a chain of flowers
snow in summer
sugar girl
to the sky
babble
out of mind
2 late
fear of ghosts
never enough (7" version)
harold and joe
this twilight garden
play
halo
scared as you
the big hand
a foolish arrangement
wendy time (original lyrics)
a letter to elise (original lyrics)
cut (original lyrics)
burn
it used to be me
adonais
ocean
home
a pink dream
waiting
dredd song
more than this
a sign from god
yesterday's gone (remix)
wrong number
coming up
heavy world
just say yes (original)
spilt milk
you're so happy you could kill me
cut here
signal to noise
the lost wishes tracks



wow that was a lot to type. this stuff could easily fit on four 79 minute discs.

anyone else want to add anything to the wishlist?
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Reply #31 posted 11/05/03 5:32pm

JonSnow

i would add Carnage Visors to that list - and probably remove the Never Enough 7inch version since we have that on 2 singles collections.

i think there was also a different version of Lament, wasn't there? on a magizine plexi-single or something like that.

I would want the single edit of Out of this World and the single remix of Maybe Someday also to be included...


and what about the Curiousity tracks? especially Forever...
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Reply #32 posted 11/05/03 5:50pm

TRON

NWF said:

Hopefully that box set will include A Few Hours After This, Stop Dead & A Man Inside My Mouth. Those joints rock!!!

My favorite Cure b-side!
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Reply #33 posted 11/05/03 5:52pm

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TRON said:

NWF said:

Hopefully that box set will include A Few Hours After This, Stop Dead & A Man Inside My Mouth. Those joints rock!!!

My favorite Cure b-side!


I love that track too. So catchy, upbeat and fun. smile
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Reply #34 posted 11/05/03 5:56pm

TRON

JonSnow said:

i would add Carnage Visors to that list - and probably remove the Never Enough 7inch version since we have that on 2 singles collections.

i think there was also a different version of Lament, wasn't there? on a magizine plexi-single or something like that.

I would want the single edit of Out of this World and the single remix of Maybe Someday also to be included...


and what about the Curiousity tracks? especially Forever...

Good additions. The Paul Oakenfold remix of "Out Of This World" is pretty tight too.

And don't forget Pirate Ships, Purple Haze and their cover of Love Will Tear Us Apart.

There are shitloads of demos from all throughout their career, some with much different lyrics.

I suspect that all the real b-sides will be there. It's supposed to contain 70 tracks total (about 18 per disc) so they're definitely not skimping on quantity. And remember that the remasters are supposed to contain unreleased material as well, so it seems like they're going all the way with the rare stuff. biggrin
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Reply #35 posted 11/05/03 5:57pm

TRON

NWF said:

TRON said:

NWF said:

Hopefully that box set will include A Few Hours After This, Stop Dead & A Man Inside My Mouth. Those joints rock!!!

My favorite Cure b-side!


I love that track too. So catchy, upbeat and fun. smile

And gorgeous too!
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Reply #36 posted 11/05/03 5:58pm

TRON

Oh and I'm sure "Young Americans" and "Hello I Love You" will be on there.
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Reply #37 posted 11/05/03 5:59pm

TRON

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

bratchildsfriend said:

TRON said:

I just read that in the current Q magazine that Robert was recently at an awards show going on and on about Prince. I'll have to find the specifics though. And even better, he's planning a collaboration with Tricky. yay!

INCREDIBLE!!! Can you even imagine?

Yeah. Easily. They have a lot of similar textures and moods in their music. It would be heaven.


I can't see it at all. I wouldn't want to, either. hmph!

You have no imagination and you suck. nana

j/k
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Reply #38 posted 11/05/03 6:01pm

Moonbeam

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

bratchildsfriend said:

TRON said:

I just read that in the current Q magazine that Robert was recently at an awards show going on and on about Prince. I'll have to find the specifics though. And even better, he's planning a collaboration with Tricky. yay!

INCREDIBLE!!! Can you even imagine?

Yeah. Easily. They have a lot of similar textures and moods in their music. It would be heaven.


I can't see it at all. I wouldn't want to, either. hmph!

You have no imagination and you suck. nana

j/k


I wouldn't want to see Tricky tarnish the Cure's catalog. nana
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Reply #39 posted 11/05/03 6:15pm

TRON

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

bratchildsfriend said:

TRON said:

I just read that in the current Q magazine that Robert was recently at an awards show going on and on about Prince. I'll have to find the specifics though. And even better, he's planning a collaboration with Tricky. yay!

INCREDIBLE!!! Can you even imagine?

Yeah. Easily. They have a lot of similar textures and moods in their music. It would be heaven.


I can't see it at all. I wouldn't want to, either. hmph!

You have no imagination and you suck. nana

j/k


I wouldn't want to see Tricky tarnish the Cure's catalog. nana

Too late. He already covered "The Lovecats". And Robert loves him. So they're bound to do good work together.
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Reply #40 posted 11/05/03 6:20pm

Moonbeam

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

bratchildsfriend said:

TRON said:

I just read that in the current Q magazine that Robert was recently at an awards show going on and on about Prince. I'll have to find the specifics though. And even better, he's planning a collaboration with Tricky. yay!

INCREDIBLE!!! Can you even imagine?

Yeah. Easily. They have a lot of similar textures and moods in their music. It would be heaven.


I can't see it at all. I wouldn't want to, either. hmph!

You have no imagination and you suck. nana

j/k


I wouldn't want to see Tricky tarnish the Cure's catalog. nana

Too late. He already covered "The Lovecats". And Robert loves him. So they're bound to do good work together.


I respect Tricky's abilities, but I really don't want to see this collaboration happen. I don't want to imagine what it would sound like. disbelief
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Reply #41 posted 11/05/03 6:23pm

TRON

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I respect Tricky's abilities, but I really don't want to see this collaboration happen. I don't want to imagine what it would sound like. disbelief

If you're worried about it being evil, it can't be any worse than Pornography or The Top. shrug
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Reply #42 posted 11/05/03 6:27pm

Moonbeam

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

I respect Tricky's abilities, but I really don't want to see this collaboration happen. I don't want to imagine what it would sound like. disbelief

If you're worried about it being evil, it can't be any worse than Pornography or The Top. shrug


I'm not worried about that. I just think their styles would sound absolutely terrible mixed together.
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Reply #43 posted 11/05/03 6:32pm

TRON

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

I respect Tricky's abilities, but I really don't want to see this collaboration happen. I don't want to imagine what it would sound like. disbelief

If you're worried about it being evil, it can't be any worse than Pornography or The Top. shrug


I'm not worried about that. I just think their styles would sound absolutely terrible mixed together.

Hmm. I think it will be a surefire classic. Their textures, themes and instrumentation seem like a perfect match. And with Tricky's choice of covers in the past of Prince, Depeche Mode, The Banshees, Blondie, etc. I always wondered what it would be like if they worked together. Hopefully, now I'll find out. biggrin For me, this is great news.
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Reply #44 posted 11/05/03 6:42pm

Moonbeam

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

I respect Tricky's abilities, but I really don't want to see this collaboration happen. I don't want to imagine what it would sound like. disbelief

If you're worried about it being evil, it can't be any worse than Pornography or The Top. shrug


I'm not worried about that. I just think their styles would sound absolutely terrible mixed together.

Hmm. I think it will be a surefire classic. Their textures, themes and instrumentation seem like a perfect match. And with Tricky's choice of covers in the past of Prince, Depeche Mode, The Banshees, Blondie, etc. I always wondered what it would be like if they worked together. Hopefully, now I'll find out. biggrin For me, this is great news.


Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I've never heard those cover versions. I just can't picture it in my head without making myself sick.
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Reply #45 posted 11/05/03 6:45pm

JonSnow

also they did a cover of a Depeche Mode song - World in My Eyes. That should be included as well. smile


yeah i forgot about Pirate Ships... nifty song.


I want the version of Siamese Twins with strings...
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Reply #46 posted 11/05/03 6:49pm

TRON

Moonbeam said:

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I've never heard those cover versions. I just can't picture it in my head without making myself sick.

LOL. Don't think about it then.

Think about Kylie instead. biggrin
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Reply #47 posted 11/05/03 6:57pm

Moonbeam

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I've never heard those cover versions. I just can't picture it in my head without making myself sick.

LOL. Don't think about it then.

Think about Kylie instead. biggrin


I'll try not to think about it! I know I'll have to hear it though. Am I a glutton for punishment?
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Reply #48 posted 11/05/03 7:01pm

TRON

Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I've never heard those cover versions. I just can't picture it in my head without making myself sick.

LOL. Don't think about it then.

Think about Kylie instead. biggrin


I'll try not to think about it! I know I'll have to hear it though. Am I a glutton for punishment?

I would hope not.

lol
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Reply #49 posted 11/05/03 7:08pm

Anxiety

Whee! Now I don't have to depend on my decrepit cassette copy of "Staring at the Sea" for my b-sides anymore!
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Reply #50 posted 11/05/03 7:09pm

TRON

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Whee! Now I don't have to depend on my decrepit cassette copy of "Staring at the Sea" for my b-sides anymore!

And you'll get about 55 extras!
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Reply #51 posted 11/05/03 10:42pm

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JonSnow said:

i would add Carnage Visors to that list - and probably remove the Never Enough 7inch version since we have that on 2 singles collections.

i think there was also a different version of Lament, wasn't there? on a magizine plexi-single or something like that.

I would want the single edit of Out of this World and the single remix of Maybe Someday also to be included...


No fuckin way. Carnage Visors is a waste of 27 minutes of disc space. and I seriously hope to Jah that there are no single edits on this collection. ... But yeah, that early version of lament is excellent, how could I forget it?

TRON said:

The Paul Oakenfold remix of "Out Of This World" is pretty tight too.


I'd much rather have that remix than the edit of out of this world.

TRON said:

And don't forget Pirate Ships, Purple Haze and their cover of Love Will Tear Us Apart.


Pirate ships puts me to sleep. I would LOVE to have a copy of the "promo version" of purple haze. it's the original version before brian "chuck" new remixed it for the hendrix tribute. Love will tear us apart sounds like shit, robert's vocals are mixed so low.

Someone mentioned young americans, yeah that would be cool but I really hope there aren't that many cover tunes on the box set. I'm mainly looking for fill in the blanks in my collection and have nice cd quality copies of all the b-sides. most of my b-sides are on vinyl and cassette. I read somewhere that the first song on the boxset is 10:15 saturday nite. fuck! that does not belong here. (but that's from my american point of view; i know it was on the american first album but not the british so whatever)

i hope a lot of early stuff is included, like the stuff missing from the first american album (not to mention the songs that don't appear on all versions of that album -- so what, world war, etc)

it would also be nice to have a clean copy of "cold colours" (the demo for primary with all different lyrics)

I just wonder how much this box set and the bonus tracks on the remasters are going to overlap. no real need to buy the remastered if the same stuff is on the box. we shall see how deep it goes...
[This message was edited Wed Nov 5 14:43:43 PST 2003 by smokeverbs]
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Reply #52 posted 11/05/03 10:46pm

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I can't wait to get this! woot!
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Reply #53 posted 11/05/03 10:50pm

TRON

I think the remastered albums will be worth it even if there are no bonus tracks. I love hearing my favorite albums updated with modern technology. But I hope there aren't a lot of repeats either. Leave the demo and alternate versions as bonus tracks on the albums and put actual non-album tracks on the 4 disc rarities set.

And don't forget the demo of "Cats Like Cheese". biggrin
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Reply #54 posted 11/05/03 10:54pm

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and how bout a definitive 12 inch collection?

primary (extended mix)
let's go to bed (extended dub)
the lovecats (extended mix)
close to me (extended mix)
boys don't cry (new vocal remix)
hot hot hot (extended mix)
why can't i be you (extended mix)
lovesong (extended mix)
fascination street (extended mix)
pictures of you (VIDEO MIX)
high (higher mix)
friday i'm in love (strangelove mix)
a letter to elise (promo only extended mix)
out of this world (oakenfold mix)
the last day of summer (extended mix)

and that's just off the top of my head, i'm sure there's more, but let's forget about the dreadful remixes that came off the wild mood swings album. and only four of the ones i listed above are on mixed up. anyone else?
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Reply #55 posted 11/05/03 10:55pm

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TRON said:



And don't forget the demo of "Cats Like Cheese". biggrin

that's probably going to be on a remaster of the top. ugh, i hate that song.
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Reply #56 posted 11/05/03 10:58pm

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has anyone else ever heard "open (fix mix)" ... it came out as a promo 12" with the excellent "high (trip mix)"

but i don't really hear anything different about the fix mix of open. someone prove me wrong?
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Reply #57 posted 11/05/03 11:04pm

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10:15 and Icing Sugar are not hard to find.


yeah, they're probably referring to the "new mix" of icing sugar that was on the orange bonus ep that came with kiss me x3 originally.

oh, and other than standing on a beach cassette, i didn't buy any of their other singles collections, so that's why i hoped for the og version of never enough.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 5 15:07:11 PST 2003 by smokeverbs]
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Reply #58 posted 11/05/03 11:06pm

TRON

smokeverbs said:

has anyone else ever heard "open (fix mix)" ... it came out as a promo 12" with the excellent "high (trip mix)"

but i don't really hear anything different about the fix mix of open. someone prove me wrong?

No. But I'm looking for them now. wink

I have heard a remix of 39 that's pretty great, but I don't think it's official.
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Reply #59 posted 11/05/03 11:09pm

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TRON said:

I'm looking for them now. wink



i found them on slsk. good luck...

i hope they don't include any of the shit from the greatest hits site. (the instrumental demos and unreleased mixes) most of that stuff was charming the first time i listened after downloading everything from the site, but a lot of it was quickly disposable.
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