Handclapsfingasnapz said:

But really, Beyonce didn't really need to mention God in that interview or whatever to make her point. She could have just said that it would go against her beliefs to kiss another girl for entertainment purposes instead of saying that God told her this and God told her that. She sounds like she's Joan of Arc or somebody saying that God tells her what to do. whatever...

If Beyonce wants to be a devout Christian who wears provocative clothing and dates a rapper who has mentioned that he's a premature ejaculater in many songs then that's great but there is no reason for her to say that she can't do one thing because of God and then turn around and do something similar but say that God is a-okay with it.

Dear God:
Re:Beyonce

Beyonce has a nice ass. Thank you for that.



Sincerely:

rdhull

rdhull said:

JDINTERACTIVE said:

well,
what i want to know INTERACTIVE is why did you post this picture of RU'PAUL...thats totally a different thread, :)you boober!

CAMILLE4U said:

co-"Beyonce is full of shit!"

rdhull said:

you know, it's really starting to look like christina is the only one with a brain...

















...yet ANOTHER reason for me to like her, thanks beyounce!!!

Cloudbuster said:

co-

"God Won't Let Me Kiss Girls" is just a nice way of saying to 85% gay Hollywood "I'm not a lesbian and I won't do girl/girl teases for movie scripts/endorsement deals, etc." without being blunt and pissing her meal tickets off.


She may be an airhead, but she's an airhead who likes BOYS.

Beyonce is fly

That she wants to share her fly-ness with boys, makes it all the more better for me

lovebizzare said:

Statements like those made by Beyoncé wouldn't come to the surface if she had a good publicist. It's not that Christina Aguilera is Miss Consciousness, she probably has a good publicist that tells her to keep her mouth shut.

Mariah and Whitney have bad publicists and look at the shipwrecks that are fastly becoming their current careers. Publicists help to censor artists and ensure that they don't say anything potentially offensive or destructive to an artist's "character/livelihood/reputation."

It seems like Beyoncé needs to hire a good publicist before she becomes the next Donna Summer spouting -- "AIDS is a divine ruling" and having to backtrack that.

JANFAN4L said:

whitney has isssues and major problems and that's why her career is shipwrecked. it ain't got nothin' to do with her pr rep.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Co-sign. Mariah has stayed afloat. Whitney on the other hand,

BlaqueKnight said:

rrriiight, its always about race .

hey listen (news flash), the reason christina's name came up was because she's the only with the brains to know to keep her mouth shut and refrain from making contradictive statements.

the topic was beyonce's statement...so, she happens to be a black girl, big deal...there are plenty of threads devoted to knocking christina, britney, madonna, jessica simpson, and all the other white girls.

oh yeah, no one is allowed to criticise black performers because then its racism...gimme a break...if someone says something stupid then someone is gonna get called on it...beyonce or madonna.

BlaqueKnight said:

I disagree. Christina has critics as well.

Beyonce isn't any different from a bunch of folks who called themselves "Christian" or hide behind some religious banner and then do one thing and say another.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Sort of. Whitney did fall in line with some bad company ::cough::Bobby Brown::cough. But, all of the personal drama could've been kept a little more airtight if she had a good publicist.

What makes me question Whitney's entourage is the NBC special. Did you see how Whtiney PERSONALLY called into Wendy Williams radio show...WENDY WILLIAMS! Wendy is a known troublemaker in the industry and Whitney basically set her self up to look like a fool. If Whitney had a good, business-minded publicist she would've never picked up that phone. What Whitney did was just sloppy.

Even Mr. Controversy Eminem has a publicist. When he's being interviewed he talks off camera to his publicist and says "can I respond to that?" Eminem may be crazy and likes to push people's buttons, but the boy don't wanna F up his meal ticket, you know what I mean?

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

I'm just calling it like i see it. Christina has NOT refrained from carrying herself like a bratty teenager and acting bitchy. Check the piece Access Hollywood did on the top 10 "bad girls". Go back and check some of the Mtv diariy-type shows that have been done on her. Yeah, she can sing, but she's no saint and she says that HERSELF. She has NOTHING to do with the topic of Beyonce, though. As for raunchy, PLEASE! Christina dresses and carries herself like a hooker half the time. I'm not saying she IS like that, but she carries herself like that on camera. No big deal. Its her life. Beyonce hasn't done a video like "Dirty" yet, so how is she contradicting herself? Just because she's got ass and tits doesn't make her act "raunchy". Janet gets raunchy. Madonna gets raunchy. Christina gets raunchy nowadays. Bey is seductive. She has yet to cross the line in my book, although she IS riding it. Everybody seems to have a problem with her doin' her thing, yet Christina is getting props like she ain't doing worse? WTF? I'm just calling it like I see it. She says she "has standards" and there are things she won't do (like pretend to be gay or bi on camera for money). That's a reflection on her moral values. Just because she wears enticing gear, does that mean she's not supposed to have standards? Give her some credit. There is a difference between dressing sexy and acting like a hooker. Bey may dress sexy, but she's not onstage sticking her tongue down some woman's throat just to draw attention to herself. That speaks volumes. As for the race thing: nothing new. Its not ALWAYS about race, but its no secret that skinny blondes get away with more than ANYBODY when it comes to dressing like sluts. At the end of the day ALL these pop chicks have to play the game to a certain degree to stay in the eye of the public; but not all of them will go as far as Christina and Britney did on the awards show. Not all of them have to.

JANFAN4L said:

i agree with you on that...i just wonder how much whitney does that is against the recommendations of her pr people. after all, they can't be with her for every one of her whims. but yeah, the diane sawyer interview should have been avoided!

I have no idea why we're delineating into race, but Christina was brought into the convo when were talking about good publicists vs. bad publicists.

If anything, the spotlight of this thread shouldn't be on race but HOMOPHOBIA, MEDIA DOUBLE STANDARDS, RELIGIOUS HYPOCRISY and HETEROSEXISM.

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[This message was edited Mon Oct 20 13:37:36 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L]

BlaqueKnight said:

you're missing the entire point...

exactly...christina admits to being slutty. so does britney and so did madonna...they never sang on gospel records and then took their clothes off a week later. beyonce says god is ok with her 'entertaining' yet her idea of entertaining goes against all that is written in the bible. now, i'm not saying whether i agree with the bible or not...that is irrelevant...but obviously, beyonce DOES believe in it...so why is she half naked in all her videos and photo shoots? the whole point of this conversation was to call out beyonce on her contradictions...those other girls are not succumbing to contradiction. except for madonna, and she is always getting called out for it here on the org! you are throwing around racist accusations when, according to your own post, are in agreement with what i'm saying. christina has never claimed to be a good girl...so her actions are consistent with her words. beyonce is a hypocrite, plain and simple.

that's about the only thing black and white here!

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Excatly! I don't think Christina ever thought she was going to a good girl. She has always been a whore but at least not a hypocrite.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

On the contrary, Bey's attire is that of a pop star. ALL of her peers dress in a manner that is condusive to SALES. Poster sales, merchandising, etc. Where is the dress code in the bible? ACTIONS are what dictate, not clothes. They are all entertainers. That's how pop entertainers of this time period dress. She simply says that she has standards and apparently doesn't view dressing the way she does as a "sin". I got the interpretation that she was simply saying that she ain't into the same sex thing and won't compromise her values for money. As far as I know, she's not "out there" like Tara Reid or somebody. She's not contridicting herself in HER eyes. It depends on where you place "dressing sexy" on the sins list (if you place it there at all). Bey isn't DOING anything other than dancing in her own music videos and dressing sexy. She doesn't act nasty. How is she contridicting herself? Just by wearing the clothes? Is she NOT supposed to believe in God and have morals because she's a pop star?

BlaqueKnight said:

True.

BlaqueKnight said:

Blaqueknight, thank you for coming to the rescue of your "sista", but I have to agree with the other orgers when they say that this is not about race. It's about the way that B is portraying herself while calling herself a Christian. Did you see the way that she writhed around in the "baby boy" video??? There ain't nothing "Christian" about that. She simply can't have it both ways. If she had wasn't down with kissing girls,she should have just said so, and no one problably would have said anything about it. It's a free country. But she brought God into it, which opened her up to criticism due to the way the she expresses herself. And yes there is a code of christian conduct in the bible and it does not include writhing around half naked. Would you take Beyonce to church dressed the way that she usually is? Would you even take here home to momma dressed that way that she usually is? Now if someone like Kelly Price had made a statement about God not allowing her to kiss girls, people most likely wouldn't trip because Kelly Price carries herself in such a way that when she claims she's Christian, people believe her. But B, As much as I admire her talent, I don't understand how she can call herself a "Christian" and dress like that. If you wanna be nasty, dammit be nasty. But don't try to be nasty and be Christian too and then act like it's o.k. just becuase you convinced yourself that it's o.k. to be like that just because everyone else is doing it.

BlaqueKnight said:

I respectfully disagree with you, BN. When I see a Beyonce video, I think 'video ho'. She dresses slutty and dances slutty. There is a problem when I can't let my kids watch her videos.

illimack said:

stymie said:

right on!!