I just got my hands one of the official mispressings of Fresh and I can't believe this version wasn't supposed to see the light of day. Anybody else got this?

whats dif about it?

The music is essentially the same for all tracks with the exception of Babies Makin Babies. On that tune he created a totally different animal and it's much better in my opinion. The only song that is exactly the same is In Time. The rest differ with alternate background vocals, less horns, more guitar in some places. When they first pressed Fresh for cd format someone mistakenly grabbed the wrong masters. They were recalled immediately. I had been searching for this for almost 10 years.

Ive been reading aboutthis for days and a few weeeks before..I wonder how rdhull can get a copy.

Interesting. I would love to hear how "Let Me Have It All" sounds.

Yes,I got that alternative version also
& it´s really intresting 2 hear the different sounds.
Like "If you want me to stay" with a clavinet & guitar
in the intro instead of that pianosolo,
but when I heard that alt.version of "Babies makin'babies"
I was totally knocked down.So funky & different from
the official,& those funky horn hits sounds so much
like Prince & ahead of it´s time.
The drums R clearer & more upfront in the mix on these songs
but some other stuff like background vocals is missing.
I wonder how this press could leak out.
/peace Manki

How can you tell its the alternate copy?

groovement said:

I know that only the pressings that went out in longbox form have alternates.

chickengrease said:

I have both "Fresh" cd´s,the real 1 & the alternate
& the covers look identical but they have different
serialnumbers."In time" is the only song that
sounds the same.
/peace Manki

I kinda feel bad 4 not getting into Sly Stone's stuff, ya know? Its embarassing 2 admit this lol but I only know this LP from the liner notes in the Crystal Ball(discussing "Make Yo Mama Happy").

My father hounds me big time 4 not getting their stuff, I dig stuff from over here and over there but I neva really got hooked 2 Sly's music.

I'm trying to tho, believe me!

Feeling bad edit
[This message was edited Sun Sep 7 14:15:30 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis]

Harlepolis said:

well young lady you SHOULD feel bad (just kidding) ) but on the real, Prince worships Sly, and his music is directly influenced by him..so as a Prince fan, it would behoove you to check him out.

damn.
i would love to hear that.
fresh is one of my favorite albums.
and a different version of babies making babies?

i gotta get my hands on this.

did sly change the bassline on BMB or did he leave the bassline in tact?

djdredd said:

The bass line,horns & the drums R totally different.
It´s more funkier less laidback with the horns doing
stabs.
/peace Manki

chickengrease said:

Wow!

I never knew this!

What a mistake, now I'm going to be on the look out for that!

How or where did you find the CD?

And for those who don't know much about Sly, try the Anthology CD, it's a best of compilation put together in the early 80's and it rocks!

It really shows where Prince got his inspriration and even ideas! Some serious Funk!

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

I had this on tape for years,I had given away my
"Fresh" cd 2 a friend but I still had the vinyl
when I saw "Fresh" cd on a store & bought it so I could
have 1 on cd,then it turned out I had gotten the alternative
I went back & listened 2 them other copys & they all were
the alternative.I don´t know where this store gets their
albums from but they never have the real 1,just the
alternative vers.
/peace Manki
[This message was edited Wed Sep 10 3:32:36 PDT 2003 by manki]

Great info on my favorite Sly cd, I'm on the hunt.

Thanks!

Shit! I think I only have the original version.Gonna search for this suckah!!

Okay. I ain't gonna beat around the bush.

Org me your address and I will send you money to burn me a copy and I will be happy.

But, I mean, you know, keep it on the downlow - no need for nobody to know about this but you and me.

Harlepolis said:

You gotta get yourself some Sly.I mean if you dig all the 70's Funk bands then you gotta start with one of the Inspirations of It all.Sly Covered so many Musical Bases it ain't even funny&He did it all in a realtively Short time.