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Reply #30 posted 08/24/03 4:32pm

calldapplwonde
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bananacologne said:

U havent got Scary Monsters??!?!?!?! eyepop


lol chill, my friend! I will definitely, as soon as I can.

The ones I want to get next are Scary Monsters, Pin Ups, Diamond Dogs. Then Lodger, Space Oddity and Young Americans. Then maybe some 90s stuff.

...oh and, of course, Reality. Does anyone what kind of bonus songs will be on the special version? Old songs re-recorded?



Pfff, long way to go actually. Fortunately, you can get most of the old albums rather cheap.
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Reply #31 posted 08/24/03 4:35pm

TRON

calldapplwondery83 said:

bananacologne said:

U havent got Scary Monsters??!?!?!?! eyepop


lol chill, my friend! I will definitely, as soon as I can.

The ones I want to get next are Scary Monsters, Pin Ups, Diamond Dogs. Then Lodger, Space Oddity and Young Americans. Then maybe some 90s stuff.

...oh and, of course, Reality. Does anyone what kind of bonus songs will be on the special version? Old songs re-recorded?



Pfff, long way to go actually. Fortunately, you can get most of the old albums rather cheap.

The bonus material I've heard mentioned so far as possibilities is:

Rebel Rebel 2002
Queen Of All The Tarts
Your Turn To Drive
Fly
Love Missile F1-11
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Reply #32 posted 08/24/03 5:05pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Interesting. From my, by now, limited point of view, that one might be in my top3.



it's a little too classic 70's rock for my liking, but to each their own. similarly, i'm not all that crazy about the Space Oddity album, either. too late 60's/early 70's dreamy-eyed strummy folk for my tastes.
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Reply #33 posted 08/24/03 5:06pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

bananacologne said:

U havent got Scary Monsters??!?!?!?! eyepop


lol chill, my friend! I will definitely, as soon as I can.

The ones I want to get next are Scary Monsters, Pin Ups, Diamond Dogs. Then Lodger, Space Oddity and Young Americans. Then maybe some 90s stuff.

...oh and, of course, Reality. Does anyone what kind of bonus songs will be on the special version? Old songs re-recorded?



Pfff, long way to go actually. Fortunately, you can get most of the old albums rather cheap.



pass on Pin Ups until you've got Scary Monsters, Diamond Dogs, Lodger, and Young Americans. in fact, Pin Ups is almost entirely missable, aside from the stunning "Sorrow"
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Reply #34 posted 08/24/03 10:13pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

What is the expert's view on the "Alladin Sane" album? That one I think is FULL of great songs. Some might be, like "the prettiest star", a little to sweet, but I still like them.
"Panic in Detroit" absolutely rocks, IMO.


Aladdin Sane would be a perfect album for me if "Let's Spend the Night Together" was left off. I've been listening to the album non-stop since I bought it a couple of months ago, but I just can't get into that song.

I love "Panic in Detroit" too. I like the guitars in it.
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Reply #35 posted 08/25/03 1:25am

calldapplwonde
ry83

AaronSuperior said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

bananacologne said:

U havent got Scary Monsters??!?!?!?! eyepop


lol chill, my friend! I will definitely, as soon as I can.

The ones I want to get next are Scary Monsters, Pin Ups, Diamond Dogs. Then Lodger, Space Oddity and Young Americans. Then maybe some 90s stuff.

...oh and, of course, Reality. Does anyone what kind of bonus songs will be on the special version? Old songs re-recorded?



Pfff, long way to go actually. Fortunately, you can get most of the old albums rather cheap.



pass on Pin Ups until you've got Scary Monsters, Diamond Dogs, Lodger, and Young Americans. in fact, Pin Ups is almost entirely missable, aside from the stunning "Sorrow"



Ok. Pin Ups is the one with only cover versions, right?

And one more question: is there a similar amount of bootleggs from Bowie out there like there are from Prince? Only live or also studio recordings?
And what is his opinion about it?







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Reply #36 posted 08/25/03 8:47am

calldapplwonde
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bananacologne said:

U havent got Scary Monsters??!?!?!?! eyepop




Couldn't stand you doing that with your eyes wink , so I bought Scary Monsters today!
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Reply #37 posted 08/25/03 11:23am

bananacologne

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calldapplwondery83 said:

bananacologne said:

U havent got Scary Monsters??!?!?!?! eyepop


lol chill, my friend! I will definitely, as soon as I can.


lol cool, will be interested in seeing that 'Scary Monsters review' thread pop up then buddy! highfive
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Reply #38 posted 08/25/03 2:27pm

calldapplwonde
ry83

This is really great...
my first burning thread on prince.org with a thread about Bowie!

lol why not, he's amazing!
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Reply #39 posted 08/26/03 1:57am

calldapplwonde
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No more? I want this to burn! BURN, BURN, BURN! mad
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Reply #40 posted 08/26/03 3:35am

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It's so cool that he got the Scary Monsters title from a cereal box.
What a genius huh?
WHAT IF THERE IS NO TOMORROW? THERE WASN'T ONE TODAY!
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Reply #41 posted 08/26/03 9:14am

calldapplwonde
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Really?
I can only imagine how many little anecdotes about Bowie I have yet to learn. Anyone wants to share some?
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Reply #42 posted 08/26/03 9:37am

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I don't know much about him at all but I'm starting to like him just as much as Prince. I was listening to Low the other day and I think the first half is really cool. I really like Be My Wife.

I had to smile when I sawe Black Tie White Noise next to NEWS in the new releases section of HMV. My two favourite artists!!
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Reply #43 posted 08/26/03 10:32am

calldapplwonde
ry83

mike464 said:

I don't know much about him at all but I'm starting to like him just as much as Prince. I was listening to Low the other day and I think the first half is really cool. I really like Be My Wife.

I had to smile when I sawe Black Tie White Noise next to NEWS in the new releases section of HMV. My two favourite artists!!


Do you have the Aladdin Sane album? Can't stop listening to that one!
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Reply #44 posted 08/26/03 11:33am

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Every Bowie album from 1969-1983 is good. After that it's all shit. That is all you really need to know.
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Reply #45 posted 08/26/03 11:36am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Do you have the Aladdin Sane album? Can't stop listening to that one!


The first Bowie album I got (Downloaded but later bought on CD). Panic In Detroit is my favourite I think.
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Reply #46 posted 08/26/03 2:46pm

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WatchThemFall said:

Every Bowie album from 1969-1983 is good. After that it's all shit. That is all you really need to know.



I don't know anything from 1980-1999 yet, but you also don't dig, let's say "Heathen"? I can't really comment on "hours..." right now, as I have not heard it for quite some time, but "Heathen" is good, IMO.
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Reply #47 posted 08/26/03 3:12pm

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WatchThemFall said:

Every Bowie album from 1969-1983 is good. After that it's all shit. That is all you really need to know.



sorry, you're wrong. everything from 84-87 is shit. well, not even everything. even with all the shit that surrounded them, he still managed to pull a steady stream of decent tracks from those crap albums and soundtracks.


Tin Machine I is pretty decent. Tin Machine II is okay, as well, though I'm not sure why it's a Tin Machine album. Doesn't seem like the vibe they were going for on the first album or live.

Every succeeding album from Black Tie on is better than the last.


I've always found it ironic that Nile Rogers is largely to blame for both the fall and rise of David Bowie in the 80's and 90's, respectively.

Let's Dance is a pretty great album, but it isn't really much of a Bowie album, and unfortunately, he kept trying to repeat the forumula for most of the rest of the decade.

After clearing his head with/of Tin Machine, he went back to Nile Rogers to bring his solo career out of the doldrums. While not his best 90's album (probably the lowest on the rung, actually), it definitely points to a return to form, which has been improved upon and sustained since then.
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Reply #48 posted 08/26/03 3:12pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

WatchThemFall said:

Every Bowie album from 1969-1983 is good. After that it's all shit. That is all you really need to know.



I don't know anything from 1980-1999 yet, but you also don't dig, let's say "Heathen"? I can't really comment on "hours..." right now, as I have not heard it for quite some time, but "Heathen" is good, IMO.



he doesn't know what he's talking about. disregard.
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Reply #49 posted 08/26/03 3:46pm

calldapplwonde
ry83

I'm really quite curious to hear what "Earthling" for example sounds like. Isn't is more or less DrumN'Bass? Anyway, I really dig "I'm Afraid of Americans".
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Reply #50 posted 08/26/03 3:49pm

calldapplwonde
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And Aaron could you tell me who Nile Rogers is? I know I heard that name before (connected to Bowie and propably somewhere else too), but really cannot remember at the moment.
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Reply #51 posted 08/26/03 5:14pm

TRON

calldapplwondery83 said:

And Aaron could you tell me who Nile Rogers is? I know I heard that name before (connected to Bowie and propably somewhere else too), but really cannot remember at the moment.

I'm not Aaron but Nile Rogers was a member of the funk/disco band Chic and had become a super producer for the likes of Duran Duran and early Madonna.
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Reply #52 posted 08/26/03 5:15pm

TRON

calldapplwondery83 said:

I'm really quite curious to hear what "Earthling" for example sounds like. Isn't is more or less DrumN'Bass? Anyway, I really dig "I'm Afraid of Americans".

"Earthling" has 3 drum and bass tracks, "Little Wonder", "Battle For Britain" and "Telling Lies". The rest are a hybrid of techno and hard rock. It is somewhat trendy, but underneath it all you get classic Bowie tracks. He brings something unique to the form by combining the studio wizardry with live instruments. It's tres cool. wink
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Reply #53 posted 08/26/03 5:31pm

TRON

AaronSuperior said:

WatchThemFall said:

Every Bowie album from 1969-1983 is good. After that it's all shit. That is all you really need to know.



sorry, you're wrong. everything from 84-87 is shit. well, not even everything. even with all the shit that surrounded them, he still managed to pull a steady stream of decent tracks from those crap albums and soundtracks.


Tin Machine I is pretty decent. Tin Machine II is okay, as well, though I'm not sure why it's a Tin Machine album. Doesn't seem like the vibe they were going for on the first album or live.

Every succeeding album from Black Tie on is better than the last.


I've always found it ironic that Nile Rogers is largely to blame for both the fall and rise of David Bowie in the 80's and 90's, respectively.

Let's Dance is a pretty great album, but it isn't really much of a Bowie album, and unfortunately, he kept trying to repeat the forumula for most of the rest of the decade.

After clearing his head with/of Tin Machine, he went back to Nile Rogers to bring his solo career out of the doldrums. While not his best 90's album (probably the lowest on the rung, actually), it definitely points to a return to form, which has been improved upon and sustained since then.

I agree with nearly everything here. Don't buy into the whole "sucked after '80' thing. That's like saying Prince didn't make anything decent after he changed his name.

Tonight is half good and not as bad as people make it out to be. Some of the Iggy Pop remakes are embarrassing but there are several genuinely good pop songs in there.

Never Let Me Down is wretched. Every negative thing you hear about this album is true. lol

There are several wonderful non-album tracks from this period. Make sure you check out "Under Pressure", "Cat People" soundtrack version, "Absolute Beginners", "This Is Not America" and "As The World Falls Down".

Tin Machine(s) I & II are a bit odd. There are some great songs in the mix though. Kind of his version of 'The Hype' circa 1990. Bowie's always been awkward in a band setting but I think the experience humbled and excited him.

Black Tie/White Noise is extremely underrated in my opinion. There are some glorious soul and dance songs on there. It might sound a bit of its time now but he did it very well. As is true of all his mid-90's releases.

Buddha of Suburbia is what many consider to be his return to form. It's a bit all over the map with ambient instrumentals, techno experiments and modern rock songs. But you can hear the wheels turning. He was becoming passionate again.

Outside is an absolute fucking trip. I could do without the segues (which I do thanks to cdr's). But with the songs alone you get his most experimental work since the Berlin Trilogy. A fitting return to collaborating with Eno. Most Bowie fans swear by this album and it brought in an entire crop of fresh young blood.

Earthling rocks. It's a very angry and ballsy record. 4 killer singles too.

Hours is misunderstood. I hear more and more how many fans hate it. And I don't understand. They say it's boring and a return to the mainstream. But I couldn't agree less. Bowie isn't known for being honest or open in his writing. He's very ironic and intelligent but rarely do you get to see or feel what's really going on. And I'd say hours and Heathen are the closest we'll get other than possibly Low and Scary Monsters. And it also seems that many Bowie fans need a concept or a costume to keep their interest. Hours doesn't use any gimmicks. It's just vintage Bowie doing what he does best without any trends. For once, he was acting his age.

Heathen is glorious. Beyond words. I've rarely heard anything so grand and self-assured. A beautiful album that can compete with some of his best. Although I truly love everything he's done in the 90's, it all feels like foreplay for what's happening now. And if the live show I just saw is any indication, the new album will be of the same ilk. It's a very good time to be a Bowie follower.
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Reply #54 posted 08/26/03 6:52pm

DudeDrops

TRON said:

AaronSuperior said:

WatchThemFall said:

Every Bowie album from 1969-1983 is good. After that it's all shit. That is all you really need to know.



sorry, you're wrong. everything from 84-87 is shit. well, not even everything. even with all the shit that surrounded them, he still managed to pull a steady stream of decent tracks from those crap albums and soundtracks.


Tin Machine I is pretty decent. Tin Machine II is okay, as well, though I'm not sure why it's a Tin Machine album. Doesn't seem like the vibe they were going for on the first album or live.

Every succeeding album from Black Tie on is better than the last.


I've always found it ironic that Nile Rogers is largely to blame for both the fall and rise of David Bowie in the 80's and 90's, respectively.

Let's Dance is a pretty great album, but it isn't really much of a Bowie album, and unfortunately, he kept trying to repeat the forumula for most of the rest of the decade.

After clearing his head with/of Tin Machine, he went back to Nile Rogers to bring his solo career out of the doldrums. While not his best 90's album (probably the lowest on the rung, actually), it definitely points to a return to form, which has been improved upon and sustained since then.

I agree with nearly everything here. Don't buy into the whole "sucked after '80' thing. That's like saying Prince didn't make anything decent after he changed his name.

Tonight is half good and not as bad as people make it out to be. Some of the Iggy Pop remakes are embarrassing but there are several genuinely good pop songs in there.

Never Let Me Down is wretched. Every negative thing you hear about this album is true. lol

There are several wonderful non-album tracks from this period. Make sure you check out "Under Pressure", "Cat People" soundtrack version, "Absolute Beginners", "This Is Not America" and "As The World Falls Down".

Tin Machine(s) I & II are a bit odd. There are some great songs in the mix though. Kind of his version of 'The Hype' circa 1990. Bowie's always been awkward in a band setting but I think the experience humbled and excited him.

Black Tie/White Noise is extremely underrated in my opinion. There are some glorious soul and dance songs on there. It might sound a bit of its time now but he did it very well. As is true of all his mid-90's releases.

Buddha of Suburbia is what many consider to be his return to form. It's a bit all over the map with ambient instrumentals, techno experiments and modern rock songs. But you can hear the wheels turning. He was becoming passionate again.

Outside is an absolute fucking trip. I could do without the segues (which I do thanks to cdr's). But with the songs alone you get his most experimental work since the Berlin Trilogy. A fitting return to collaborating with Eno. Most Bowie fans swear by this album and it brought in an entire crop of fresh young blood.

Earthling rocks. It's a very angry and ballsy record. 4 killer singles too.

Hours is misunderstood. I hear more and more how many fans hate it. And I don't understand. They say it's boring and a return to the mainstream. But I couldn't agree less. Bowie isn't known for being honest or open in his writing. He's very ironic and intelligent but rarely do you get to see or feel what's really going on. And I'd say hours and Heathen are the closest we'll get other than possibly Low and Scary Monsters. And it also seems that many Bowie fans need a concept or a costume to keep their interest. Hours doesn't use any gimmicks. It's just vintage Bowie doing what he does best without any trends. For once, he was acting his age.

Heathen is glorious. Beyond words. I've rarely heard anything so grand and self-assured. A beautiful album that can compete with some of his best. Although I truly love everything he's done in the 90's, it all feels like foreplay for what's happening now. And if the live show I just saw is any indication, the new album will be of the same ilk. It's a very good time to be a Bowie follower.



TRON, this wonderful summary is EXACTLY why you're one of my favorite Orgers. We ever hang out, you bring the Berline trilogy CDs and I'll bring the wine!
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Reply #55 posted 08/26/03 9:03pm

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DudeDrops said:

TRON, this wonderful summary is EXACTLY why you're one of my favorite Orgers. We ever hang out, you bring the Berline trilogy CDs and I'll bring the wine!

It's a date!
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Reply #56 posted 08/27/03 12:52am

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how about blacktiewhitenoise and the "buddha of suburbia" soundtrack? I think that are some of the most underrated bowie's albums..
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Reply #57 posted 08/27/03 1:08am

TRON

hazel said:

how about blacktiewhitenoise and the "buddha of suburbia" soundtrack? I think that are some of the most underrated bowie's albums..

For sure!
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Reply #58 posted 08/27/03 3:41am

calldapplwonde
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Bowie isn't known for being honest or open in his writing. He's very ironic and intelligent but rarely do you get to see or feel what's really going on.


That's interesting. I don't really quite GET all of his lyrics, because I think they can be hard to fully grasp for non-native English people, but I had the opposite impression.
But I'll believe you and try to get into it some more.
[This message was edited Wed Aug 27 3:42:36 PDT 2003 by calldapplwondery83]
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Reply #59 posted 08/27/03 9:21am

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WatchThemFall said:

Every Bowie album from 1969-1983 is good. After that it's all shit. That is all you really need to know.


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