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Reply #60 posted 08/17/03 1:02am

UptownDeb

DavidEye said:


Sade is the perfect example of how to maintain a career.She's not into gimmicks or trends and you won't find a collaboration with Nelly on her albums...lol...she stays true to herself,takes her time making her music,and always comes out with meaningful albums that are worth the wait.Notice that she never has to call up all the "hot" producers.


Hey, would it be so bad if Sade traded in the hoop earrings for a little bling bling, tossed out the tailored apparel for some hoochie wear, got the Neptunes to remix one of her hits? Maybe get O.D.B. to do the rap, I hear he's making a comeback. smile wink
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Reply #61 posted 08/17/03 1:08am

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DavidEye said:


Sade is the perfect example of how to maintain a career.She's not into gimmicks or trends and you won't find a collaboration with Nelly on her albums...lol...she stays true to herself,takes her time making her music,and always comes out with meaningful albums that are worth the wait.Notice that she never has to call up all the "hot" producers.


Hey, would it be so bad if Sade traded in the hoop earrings for a little bling bling, tossed out the tailored apparel for some hoochie wear, got the Neptunes to remix one of her hits? Maybe get O.D.B. to do the rap, I hear he's making a comeback. smile wink
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Sade's already had the Neptunes remix one of her hits: "By Your Side."
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Reply #62 posted 08/17/03 3:06am

BRO915

Sade


Although this group has been around since 84', they have released only 5 albums. I really enjoyed the first two records Diamond Life and Promise. The third release Stronger Than Pride was great too. Now those first three albums were excellent, as they featured heavy instrumentation. These albums oft times featured nice grooves{especially coming from the bassist Paul Denman}. And then 4 years went by and they released Love Deluxe which IMO is just an excellent record...I think this album is just as good as their debut record...{however the instrumentation is on the decline}. But this recording is one of my all-time favorites. I can NEVER get enough of that bass line from "Feel No Pain"{Paul really laid in the cut on bass and delivered a riff on that one}. Then 8 years went by and they delivered Lovers' Rock. Now this album was a letdown for me. Where are the musicans on this? They upgraded their sound on the contemporary tip, but the instrumentation is not very present. I was disappointed in the release, it had a few good cuts on it though. Hey, 4 out of 5 ain't bad though.

Sade has a certain kind of sound that they have adopted and honed. I don't think it's their intent to be innovators or pioneers. They just make good laid-back mellow music, which at times, pack a strong rhythmic punch. I happen to know{through reports and articles} one reason why they have been so inactive is because lead singer Helen Folasade Adu have been going through a series of personal problems. And now she has a daughter and wants to focus on being a mother. Even so, the band has a loyal fan base{including Yours Truly}. The musicans in the group are talented. What I would like to see them do is hunker down and make a pure jazz album. That would be major, I think they could pull it off...

Ok, now its time for that Chicago brother we call...


R.Kelly

I remember back in 94' me and a college roommate got into a debate between R.Kelly and Prince. My roommate told me that R. Kelly was gonna be large on the R&B scene, and that Prince was on his way down. Well, at the time, I really couldn't see R. Kelly being around for 10 years. I remember telling him that Prince's legacy is cemented and that R. Kelly is just another run-of-the-mill, I-wanna-do-you-all-night-long R&B singer...I told him if R. Kelly can hang for 10 years, I will man-up and tell him face-to-face that I was wrong and he was right. Well it is 2003 and R.Kelly is still very much around. NOW...

Let's face it, R. Kelly is the hottest r&b act of the last 10 years. And yes I'm gonna say it now, I'm not a huge huge R.Kelly fan. But I think this brother is talented. He has written and produced hits for a substantial amount of people. And in term of chart success, he has had a respectable share of hits. He definitely has The Midas Touch in term of creating hits that translates into sales and chart success. But, I also must state this...to me R. Kelly can be sloppy at times, I mean some of the stuff he has written...I mean I don't know..."Feeling On Your Booty"...WHAT!!! To me, the song sounds like R. Kelly was just off in his studio and said let me just write something..anything down and just submit it as a track. But the man that wrote this song is the same man that has written "When A Woman Is Fed Up". The same man who wrote "You Remind Me Of A Jeep"{interesting stuff going on metaphorically on that track} is the same man that wrote "Be Careful" his track with Sparkle. The man that produced "Age Ain't Nothing But A Number"{hmmm, I'll leave that one alone}, is the same man that wrote and produced "A Woman's Threat"{a track that I thought was brillant, even though the track is basic and simple}. The man is capable of turning in brillant stuff{and has done so on several occasions}. There was an article I came across not too long that asked the question "Can R.Kelly Be Considered An Icon?". Well I don't think he can be considered an icon. If you look at most artists that have been elevated to icon status in music, they're normally artists that have broke down barriers and/or have made some breakthough{or several breakthoughs} artistically that influenced others in a profound way. I don't think R. Kelly has done either of those. But he definitely has the midas touch {as stated earlier} for nearly everything he has produced and written over the last few years{yes,including stuff he has written and produced for Ronald Isley And Co.} has become a hit,especially on the R&B charts.

Now, in terms of his ah "current situation" he's in now...as IN FACING SOME TIME IN THE SLAMMER, time will reveal what will happen. I just hope the brother can get his self together, He has gone on record stating that he has been seeking some spiritual counseling from his pastors{because he know he has a problem}. That's definitely a start, for the first step toward healing and deliverance, is first ADMITTING you have a problem that must be dealt with.
[This message was edited Sun Aug 17 13:58:48 PDT 2003 by BRO915]
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Reply #63 posted 08/17/03 4:00pm

alexnvrmnd

BRO915 said:

Sade


Although this group has been around since 84', they have released only 5 albums. I really enjoyed the first two records Diamond Life and Promise. The third release Stronger Than Pride was great too. Now those first three albums were excellent, as they featured heavy instrumentation. These albums oft times featured nice grooves{especially coming from the bassist Paul Denman}. And then 4 years went by and they released Love Deluxe which IMO is just an excellent record...I think this album is just as good as their debut record...{however the instrumentation is on the decline}. But this recording is one of my all-time favorites. I can NEVER get enough of that bass line from "Feel No Pain"{Paul really laid in the cut on bass and delivered a riff on that one}. Then 8 years went by and they delivered Lovers' Rock. Now this album was a letdown for me. Where are the musicans on this? They upgraded their sound on the contemporary tip, but the instrumentation is not very present. I was disappointed in the release, it had a few good cuts on it though. Hey, 4 out of 5 ain't bad though.

Sade has a certain kind of sound that they have adopted and honed. I don't think it's their intent to be innovators or pioneers. They just make good laid-back mellow music, which at times, pack a strong rhythmic punch. I happen to know{through reports and articles} one reason why they have been so inactive is because lead singer Helen Folasade Adu have been going through a series of personal problems. And now she has a daughter and wants to focus on being a mother. Even so, the band has a loyal fan base{including Yours Truly}. The musicans in the group are talented. What I would like to see them do in hunker down and make a pure jazz album. That would be major, I think they could pull it off...

Ok, now its time for that Chicago brother we call...


R.Kelly

I remember back in 94' me and a college roommate got into a debate between R.Kelly and Prince. My roommate told me that R. Kelly was gonna be large on the R&B scene, and that Prince was on his way down. Well, at the time, I really couldn't see R. Kelly being around for 10 years. I remember telling him that Prince's legacy is cemented and that R. Kelly is just another run-of-the-mill, I-wanna-do-you-all-night-long R&B singer...I told him if R. Kelly can hang for 10 years, I will man-up and tell him face-to-face that I was wrong and he was right. Well it is 2004 and R.Kelly is still very much around. NOW...

Let's face it, R. Kelly is the hottest r&b act of the last 10 years. And yes I'm gonna say it now, I'm not a huge huge R.Kelly fan. But I think this brother is talented. He has written and produced hits for a substantial amount of people. And in term of chart success, he has had a respectable share of hits. He definitely has The Midas Touch in term of creating hits that translates into sales and chart success. But, I also must state this...to me R. Kelly can be sloppy at times, I mean some of the stuff he has written...I mean I don't know..."Feeling On Your Booty"...WHAT!!! To me, the song sounds like R. Kelly was just off in his studio and said let me just write something..anything down and just submit it as a track. But the man that wrote this song is the same man that has written "When A Woman Is Fed Up". The same man who wrote "You Remind Me Of A Jeep"{interesting stuff going on metaphorically on that track} is the same man that wrote "Be Careful" his track with Sparkle. The man that produced "Age Ain't Nothing But A Number"{hmmm, I'll leave that one alone}, is the same man that wrote and produced "A Woman's Threat"{a track that I thought was brillant, even though the track is basic and simple}. The man is capable of turning in brillant stuff{and has done so on several occasions}. There was an article I came across not too long that asked the question "Can R.Kelly Be Considered An Icon?". Well I don't think he can be considered an icon. If you look at most artists that have been elevated to icon status in music, they're normally artists that have broke down barriers and/or have made some breakthough{or several breakthoughs} artistically that influenced others in a profound way. I don't think R. Kelly has done either of those. But he definitely has the midas touch {as stated earlier} for nearly everything he has produced and written over the last few years{yes,including stuff he has written and produced for Ronald Isley And Co.} has become a hit,especially on the R&B charts.

Now, in terms of his ah "current situation" he's in now...as IN FACING SOME TIME IN THE SLAMMER, time will reveal what will happen. I just hope the brother can get his self together, He has gone on record stating that he has been seeking some spiritual counseling from his pastors{because he know he has a problem}. That's definitely a start, for the first step toward healing and deliverance, is first ADMITTING you have a problem that must be dealt with.
[This message was edited Sat Aug 16 20:21:07 PDT 2003 by BRO915]

I'll co-sign on this post. Kelly has had a good run, and yes, he is quite talented. Prince has been too busy with mind games for the past 5 to 10 years to be what he's been known for (trend setter, not follower), and it's gotten in the way of his groove more often than not. A lot of Kelly's stuff, though, to me is just radio hits (which is cool, for some, in its own right). Nothing that I'd call being a genius or taking things to a whole new level like what Prince did when he was at his peak. Being hot and musically leading the way are two very different things. So, if anyone's been trying to compare the two (not saying you are, Bro; I'm talking about anyone on this board), let's end it right now.

I also agree with your opinions on Sade, for the most part. I actually thought the first three albums were better than Love Deluxe, though I love this one too. I've always said that Feel No Pain's bass line is one of the funkiest slapped on wax. Real tight!! Between Paul's bass playing and Stuart's sax and keys, they've come up with some of the sweetest melodies in music, period. Lovers Rock was OK to me, but like you, I saw it as somewhat of a letdown. It was nice, but it didn't move me like the others did. I'd still rather see Sade being true to herself and make a hundred Lovers' Rocks than just one of the kind of image change the Isleys have gone through in this "Mr. Big" era.
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Reply #64 posted 08/17/03 5:03pm

mistermaxxx

I Feel R.Kelly is a Genius,Trend-Setting&also a ICON IMHO.you can't show me too many acts over the past 20 years that have been Able to Mix R&B,Pop&Hip-Hop together&pull it off without missing a Beat.all Acts who truly Peak understand about Radio&getting Hits.I ain't even touched His Re-Mix Gift.R is BADD BADD!!
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Reply #65 posted 08/17/03 6:14pm

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fuck r. kelly... i can't stand him... i can't stand to listen to his tired ass worthless music, his trite ass lyrics, or his whiney ass singing... the only song i can dig that has a damn thing to do with r. kelly is "contagious"... that song was a jam, i'll give him that... but everything else he has ever done blows harder than a sorostitute on spring break...

i mean, really though... it takes a no-talent muthafucka to take a band as bad-ass as the isley brothers (or just ernie and ronald, really) and make an album as shitty as "body kiss"... especially coming on the strength of their last 2 albums...

and what the hell did he do with ernie isley..? the muthafucka still wails in concert... i saw them in march, and he went to town on that damn guitar... but i'll be damned if he appears on more than 30 seconds of "body kiss"... somebody oughta slap the taste of underaged girls outta r. kelly's mouth for that shit... you've gotta be one stupid ass producer to sit on some talent like that...

did he just fly ernie in one evening... "alright, you got 30 seconds to play... give it your best shot"... ernie's main contribution to the new album is appearing in the pictures on the album cover and inside the sleeve...

fuck r. kelly... i hope the isleys jump ship on his tired played-out ass...

and i'm out...

pimp2...
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Reply #66 posted 08/17/03 9:07pm

BRO915

EllisDee said:

fuck r. kelly... i can't stand him... i can't stand to listen to his tired ass worthless music, his trite ass lyrics, or his whiney ass singing... the only song i can dig that has a damn thing to do with r. kelly is "contagious"... that song was a jam, i'll give him that... but everything else he has ever done blows harder than a sorostitute on spring break...

i mean, really though... it takes a no-talent muthafucka to take a band as bad-ass as the isley brothers (or just ernie and ronald, really) and make an album as shitty as "body kiss"... especially coming on the strength of their last 2 albums...

and what the hell did he do with ernie isley..? the muthafucka still wails in concert... i saw them in march, and he went to town on that damn guitar... but i'll be damned if he appears on more than 30 seconds of "body kiss"... somebody oughta slap the taste of underaged girls outta r. kelly's mouth for that shit... you've gotta be one stupid ass producer to sit on some talent like that...

did he just fly ernie in one evening... "alright, you got 30 seconds to play... give it your best shot"... ernie's main contribution to the new album is appearing in the pictures on the album cover and inside the sleeve...

fuck r. kelly... i hope the isleys jump ship on his tired played-out ass...

and i'm out...

pimp2...



So ah I guess this means you don't like The R Man lol...

What's been up man?
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Reply #67 posted 08/17/03 9:26pm

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BRO915 said:

EllisDee said:

fuck r. kelly... i can't stand him... i can't stand to listen to his tired ass worthless music, his trite ass lyrics, or his whiney ass singing... the only song i can dig that has a damn thing to do with r. kelly is "contagious"... that song was a jam, i'll give him that... but everything else he has ever done blows harder than a sorostitute on spring break...

i mean, really though... it takes a no-talent muthafucka to take a band as bad-ass as the isley brothers (or just ernie and ronald, really) and make an album as shitty as "body kiss"... especially coming on the strength of their last 2 albums...

and what the hell did he do with ernie isley..? the muthafucka still wails in concert... i saw them in march, and he went to town on that damn guitar... but i'll be damned if he appears on more than 30 seconds of "body kiss"... somebody oughta slap the taste of underaged girls outta r. kelly's mouth for that shit... you've gotta be one stupid ass producer to sit on some talent like that...

did he just fly ernie in one evening... "alright, you got 30 seconds to play... give it your best shot"... ernie's main contribution to the new album is appearing in the pictures on the album cover and inside the sleeve...

fuck r. kelly... i hope the isleys jump ship on his tired played-out ass...

and i'm out...

pimp2...



So ah I guess this means you don't like The R Man lol...

What's been up man?



not no, but fuck no... pimp2...
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Reply #68 posted 08/17/03 9:34pm

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EllisDee said:

fuck r. kelly... i can't stand him... i can't stand to listen to his tired ass worthless music, his trite ass lyrics, or his whiney ass singing... the only song i can dig that has a damn thing to do with r. kelly is "contagious"... that song was a jam, i'll give him that... but everything else he has ever done blows harder than a sorostitute on spring break...

i mean, really though... it takes a no-talent muthafucka to take a band as bad-ass as the isley brothers (or just ernie and ronald, really) and make an album as shitty as "body kiss"... especially coming on the strength of their last 2 albums...

and what the hell did he do with ernie isley..? the muthafucka still wails in concert... i saw them in march, and he went to town on that damn guitar... but i'll be damned if he appears on more than 30 seconds of "body kiss"... somebody oughta slap the taste of underaged girls outta r. kelly's mouth for that shit... you've gotta be one stupid ass producer to sit on some talent like that...

did he just fly ernie in one evening... "alright, you got 30 seconds to play... give it your best shot"... ernie's main contribution to the new album is appearing in the pictures on the album cover and inside the sleeve...

fuck r. kelly... i hope the isleys jump ship on his tired played-out ass...

and i'm out...

pimp2...

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Reply #69 posted 08/17/03 11:15pm

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Ellis brings it.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #70 posted 08/18/03 12:59am

mistermaxxx

I'm always down with R.Kelly&don't care what anyone says.R is the real Deal&Da King of R&B.He is the "R" of R&B IMHO.as for the Isley brothers:it's the DYNASTY&I Lov eit.so does Ronald Isley.matter of fact when it comes to Ernie don't be madd at R.Kelly it's Ronald Isley that calls the shots on how much Playing Ernie gets.but I see that Ernie is down for the Ride with the Baddest Writer,producer&Artist of the Modern ERA in R.Kelly though.the Isley Brothers are the Godfathers of the Family Acts IMHO&Together you get the Best of the past,Present&Future a True "DYNASTY!! PIED PIPER&MR.BIGGS are Holding things down IMHO.
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Reply #71 posted 08/18/03 2:46am

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DavidEye said:

I love the old Isley Brothers stuff,but I don't really like their new music.This whole "Mr.Biggs" nonsense is incredibly silly,and they have completely abandoned their old sound in order to appeal to the younger audiences.They've allowed R.Kelly to "re-invent" them into aging,cussing thugs,trying to adapt to changing trends.This new song "Busted" is really no different from "Contagious" or "Keep It On The Downlow".It's the same tired concept.


Amen.
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Reply #72 posted 08/18/03 3:01am

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[/quote]I agree with your main point that artists need to keep evolving with the times. However, R. Kelly ain't pushing the envelope. In fact, he and his formulaic beats are holding things up. He's selling product and many of you seem to be buying it. Prince had been stagnant for a while chasing what he once had and what R. Kelly now possesses but he seems to be making strides. MJ has never been about much artistically so we shouldn't even be mentioning him.
As for Sade, it's true she hasn't changed much, which is why I didn't buy her last album. There's nothing wrong with that as long as she's being true to herself which seems to be the case. The same can't be said about the Isleys which used to be one of my favorite bands. They're a joke now-- musically that is. They're no longer musicians, but entertainers. I wish them well but as an adult I've outgrown the pimp, playa, hustla motifs. I'll have to catch their next act.
Paying the bills is no excuse for putting out music that isn't true to yourself. If you can't make money on your own kind of music than you aren't meant to make a living as a musician-- get a real job. It's as simple as that. "Surviving the game" in the music biz scores no points with me. It still comes down to good music. Incorporating new influences is great if you're doing it because you feel it.
In my opinion looking to R. Kelly, Jay-z, Ashanti, P. Diddy, Fred Durst and all these folks for the future in music is a bad move-- they're just selling images. Everything is dumbed down and homogenous. To make matters worse there are no morals or ideals being sold with them. The songs don't even pretend to be about love or a better world anymore. Atleast Motown-- which was also product-- mentioned these things and showed basic human respect.
So the question is this: Are you searching for good music or are you looking to be entertained? There's nothing inherently wrong with either and bad morals and negativity tarnish each-- just look at Prince at the height of his creativity. Let's just not fool ourselves into thinking you have to follow trends and appeal to teenagers to make good music.[/quote]

Amen, pt. 2.
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Reply #73 posted 08/18/03 3:53am

mistermaxxx

I Likes the R.I Likes the New Era&the modern Version of the Isley brothers.if Ronald Isley&Ernie are Happy about working with the King R.Kelly which they are then I'm Doubly Happy.I Ain't No Relic&I have Moved on&accept the change.if a Artist that can Make Hits&have Impact like R.Kelly is willing to give Back&Look back than that makes that Brother even Cooler IMHO.as Hot as His Career has Been for a Decade long He didn't have to go back.the Music Industry is about Talent but it's also about Bringing them Hits&the PIED PIPER does just that.I give Essence&Bro 915 Props for at least given it up for R.especially Essence because He sees&hears the same thing I do when it comes to R&that is the Genius He has there.You Don't last in that Business especially nowadays&having Issues without bringing the Goods.in fact that makes R.Kelly even More Unique because not many Acts that were around 10 years ago are ahrdly heard from now.Luther Vandross was talking about this fact just last year of how so many acts have come&gone in a Decade.Props to the PIED Piper! I Wish the Nick Cannon OJ Throwbacks to the haters."Feelin Freaky" opening Line to the R-Haters!!
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Reply #74 posted 08/18/03 9:46am

DavidEye

"R.Kelly is a Genuis,Trend-Setting & also an ICON"


LMAO smile

Exactly what "trends" is he setting? His music sounds like everything else in R&B right now...lots of bass,badly written lyrics that are mainly focused on sex,and overblown vocals.But you seem to love everthing about him.I bet you think his pornos are the best movies you ever saw.
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Reply #75 posted 08/18/03 11:44am

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Supernova said:

Ellis brings it.


eLLisbrings it because I am passIonate about my music&it's something that i Care a Lot about.yEsr. I do not think thatkelly is theking of r&B&He isbetter than SaM Cooke&Marvingaye&StevieWonder.Y'all need to stop hating myguys&get witit.
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Reply #76 posted 08/18/03 1:26pm

mistermaxxx

DavidEye said:

"R.Kelly is a Genuis,Trend-Setting & also an ICON"


LMAO smile

Exactly what "trends" is he setting? His music sounds like everything else in R&B right now...lots of bass,badly written lyrics that are mainly focused on sex,and overblown vocals.But you seem to love everthing about him.I bet you think his pornos are the best movies you ever saw.
hey Buddy it's my choice that I dig His Music.I ain't telling you to Buy His Music.you got that choice.you get off always trying to bad mouth the Cat but I know many folks who dig Him who grew up on the same stuff as i did.He Bridges a Gap of Styles&Speaks to alot of folks.I didn't watch none of that Video&have no Intentions to Period.let me say i don't Condon what anyone does on that level be it true or not.that's not my thing but all I know about Him is His Music the same with Other Cats in that Industry that have had similar Issues.

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Reply #77 posted 08/18/03 2:30pm

UptownDeb

JANFAN4L said:


Sade's already had the Neptunes remix one of her hits: "By Your Side."


D'oh! I was just joking. smile
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Reply #78 posted 08/18/03 4:41pm

BRO915

On a NON-music related note on R Kelly, I thought he had a nice crib{referring to BET's "How I'm Living" program}. Brotha's crib had an indoor rain forest. That was like the ultimate right there.
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Reply #79 posted 08/18/03 7:48pm

alexnvrmnd

EllisDee said:

fuck r. kelly... i can't stand him... i can't stand to listen to his tired ass worthless music, his trite ass lyrics, or his whiney ass singing... the only song i can dig that has a damn thing to do with r. kelly is "contagious"... that song was a jam, i'll give him that... but everything else he has ever done blows harder than a sorostitute on spring break...

i mean, really though... it takes a no-talent muthafucka to take a band as bad-ass as the isley brothers (or just ernie and ronald, really) and make an album as shitty as "body kiss"... especially coming on the strength of their last 2 albums...

and what the hell did he do with ernie isley..? the muthafucka still wails in concert... i saw them in march, and he went to town on that damn guitar... but i'll be damned if he appears on more than 30 seconds of "body kiss"... somebody oughta slap the taste of underaged girls outta r. kelly's mouth for that shit... you've gotta be one stupid ass producer to sit on some talent like that...

did he just fly ernie in one evening... "alright, you got 30 seconds to play... give it your best shot"... ernie's main contribution to the new album is appearing in the pictures on the album cover and inside the sleeve...

fuck r. kelly... i hope the isleys jump ship on his tired played-out ass...

and i'm out...

pimp2...

LOL! This is funny as shit. I may not agree with every single thing in this post, but it cracks me the fuck up!! smile
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Reply #80 posted 08/18/03 9:16pm

Nefertiti

mistermaxxx said:

I Likes the R.I Likes the New Era&the modern Version of the Isley brothers.if Ronald Isley&Ernie are Happy about working with the King R.Kelly which they are then I'm Doubly Happy.I Ain't No Relic&I have Moved on&accept the change.if a Artist that can Make Hits&have Impact like R.Kelly is willing to give Back&Look back than that makes that Brother even Cooler IMHO.as Hot as His Career has Been for a Decade long He didn't have to go back.the Music Industry is about Talent but it's also about Bringing them Hits&the PIED PIPER does just that.I give Essence&Bro 915 Props for at least given it up for R.especially Essence because He sees&hears the same thing I do when it comes to R&that is the Genius He has there.You Don't last in that Business especially nowadays&having Issues without bringing the Goods.in fact that makes R.Kelly even More Unique because not many Acts that were around 10 years ago are ahrdly heard from now.Luther Vandross was talking about this fact just last year of how so many acts have come&gone in a Decade.Props to the PIED Piper! I Wish the Nick Cannon OJ Throwbacks to the haters."Feelin Freaky" opening Line to the R-Haters!!


You're weird.
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Reply #81 posted 08/18/03 11:05pm

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mistermaxxx said:

I Likes the R.I Likes the New Era&the modern Version of the Isley brothers.if Ronald Isley&Ernie are Happy about working with the King R.Kelly which they are then I'm Doubly Happy.I Ain't No Relic&I have Moved on&accept the change.if a Artist that can Make Hits&have Impact like R.Kelly is willing to give Back&Look back than that makes that Brother even Cooler IMHO.as Hot as His Career has Been for a Decade long He didn't have to go back.the Music Industry is about Talent but it's also about Bringing them Hits&the PIED PIPER does just that.I give Essence&Bro 915 Props for at least given it up for R.especially Essence because He sees&hears the same thing I do when it comes to R&that is the Genius He has there.You Don't last in that Business especially nowadays&having Issues without bringing the Goods.in fact that makes R.Kelly even More Unique because not many Acts that were around 10 years ago are ahrdly heard from now.Luther Vandross was talking about this fact just last year of how so many acts have come&gone in a Decade.Props to the PIED Piper! I Wish the Nick Cannon OJ Throwbacks to the haters."Feelin Freaky" opening Line to the R-Haters!!


You're weird.
Now who is calling me weird? funny you took the time to read&reply? I wouldn't waste my time on you though.R.Kelly is Da Music Man in 2003.funny how R.Kelly&Michael Jackson getting under the skin of the usual Suspects.this place ain't changed much.now off to a R.Kelly Re-Mix&a Sprite Re-Mix for all the Haters too Cool off your Steam.
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Reply #82 posted 08/19/03 3:19am

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mistermaxxx said:

I Feel R.Kelly is a Genius,Trend-Setting&also a ICON IMHO.you can't show me too many acts over the past 20 years that have been Able to Mix R&B,Pop&Hip-Hop together&pull it off without missing a Beat.all Acts who truly Peak understand about Radio&getting Hits.I ain't even touched His Re-Mix Gift.R is BADD BADD!!


Wow!!! You really dig R. Kelly. There is no question the dude is popular but his music, arrangements and lyrics are average nothing spectacular or challenging DEFINITELY not avant garde. But he has been a huge success!!! This is his time now but will his body of work stand up to Prince's or Stevie Wonder's for example. No my man...
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
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Reply #83 posted 08/19/03 1:26pm

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gman1966 said:

mistermaxxx said:

I Feel R.Kelly is a Genius,Trend-Setting&also a ICON IMHO.you can't show me too many acts over the past 20 years that have been Able to Mix R&B,Pop&Hip-Hop together&pull it off without missing a Beat.all Acts who truly Peak understand about Radio&getting Hits.I ain't even touched His Re-Mix Gift.R is BADD BADD!!


Wow!!! You really dig R. Kelly. There is no question the dude is popular but his music, arrangements and lyrics are average nothing spectacular or challenging DEFINITELY not avant garde. But he has been a huge success!!! This is his time now but will his body of work stand up to Prince's or Stevie Wonder's for example. No my man...

That pretty much sums up how I feel on the dude. Quite talented, but will be looked back upon as not quite on that level!
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