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Thread started 08/06/03 1:24am

hazel

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marilyn manson: satanic hype?

do "orgers" listen to his music or appreciate his artistic behaviour?
what do you think about his "satanic claims" of the past?
I've listen to the new "grotesque" and can't find a trace of that! Was all a "fake" bussiness strategy?
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Reply #1 posted 08/06/03 1:48am

origmnd

The media was more focused on purely that aspect of him--meanwhile, it is miniscule
in relation to his idealogy.
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Reply #2 posted 08/06/03 2:53am

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someone find any incongruence in listening to his music and then to "spititalfunk" operas like news or rc?
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Reply #3 posted 08/06/03 4:23am

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I listen a bit, and I can tell U straight - he's not into Satan or anything like for that matter!

If U've ever read his interviews, he's a very wise and lonely man, which may not reflect in his behaviour and look, but deep inside he just want to be loved.

This is the new Shit, darling

He's an artist
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Reply #4 posted 08/06/03 4:44am

hazel

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herroyalbadnes said:

If U've ever read his interviews, he's a very wise and lonely man, which may not reflect in his behaviour and look, but deep inside he just want to be loved.



sounds like i've been listening to my grandma's records...
but do you thing that "jesusjehova" lovers that listen to prince (there must be a lot, in america) feel somewhat unconfortable with his music?
do they find him disgusting? pityfull?
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Reply #5 posted 08/06/03 5:08am

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I try not to think about him.
WHAT IF THERE IS NO TOMORROW? THERE WASN'T ONE TODAY!
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Reply #6 posted 08/06/03 5:12am

hazel

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noepie said:
I try not to think about him.


that's what i use for nightmares...
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Reply #7 posted 08/06/03 6:11am

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he is one of the more intelligent musicians out there who actually has something between his ears.

i loved his first album but really havent listened to anything since then.
"I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
"Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" is giving them enough power to destroy all justice, all freedom, and all human dignity." - Thomas Sowell
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Reply #8 posted 08/06/03 6:55am

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He use to be a music journo, so you wonder how tuned in and concious he is about what he says and does
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Reply #9 posted 08/06/03 8:19am

hazel

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sorry,,what is a "journo"..i'm not american-english..
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Reply #10 posted 08/06/03 8:21am

hazel

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chemmie said.
i loved his first album but really havent listened to anything since then.



so you listened to "portrait" but not "antichrist2, neither "mechanical animals"..? you've lost his peeks..
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Reply #11 posted 08/06/03 8:28am

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manson's merely doin what others before him have done: total shock value, rock n'roll, blablabla. he totally bores me now--i still like his earlier stuff but when antichrist superstar dropped it wuz just like, "emptee-vee's latchin on to this? there goes one nail in the coffin..."

bored
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Reply #12 posted 08/06/03 8:30am

hazel

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handsclapsfingasnapz said:
i still like his earlier stuff

REALLY??
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Reply #13 posted 08/06/03 9:52am

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hazel said:

handsclapsfingasnapz said:
i still like his earlier stuff

REALLY??

nod i don't really listen to him that much anymore, but portrait is my fave album by him.
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Reply #14 posted 08/06/03 10:09am

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Manson was made a Reverend of the Church of Satan by Anton LaVey some years ago. While Manson lives my almost every aspect of Satanism, he doesn't commit to worship or rituals. He's really just into the philosophy of it, like I am. He doesn't sing about Satanism itself, but his music has always been about self expression and doing what you wanna do, which is what Satanism promotes.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #15 posted 08/06/03 10:50am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Manson was made a Reverend of the Church of Satan by Anton LaVey some years ago. While Manson lives my almost every aspect of Satanism, he doesn't commit to worship or rituals. He's really just into the philosophy of it, like I am. He doesn't sing about Satanism itself, but his music has always been about self expression and doing what you wanna do, which is what Satanism promotes.


Actually, if you look at the 9 satanic statements, many people follow them and don't even realize it, not just Marylin Manson.

He throws around wild imagery and remarks on the surface just to drive conservative people nuts. If you spend a few minutes to actually look into his lyrics and his agenda, you'll see that he's really not a bad person at all, but someone who is hurt and wants change.

Too many conservatives spend more time complaining about shock artists without even looking at the work itself. The way some people respond to his music proves that.

It's like people standing outside of a museum protesting a Maplethorpe exhibit, when 95% of them know practically nothing about him or his work, and didn't even see the show or at least read the artist's statement on the wall. We don't prosecute people in court without carefully reviewing the evidence, why do we damn artists without even looking at their work?
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Reply #16 posted 08/06/03 11:42am

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tom said:
Actually, if you look at the 9 satanic statements, many people follow them and don't even realize it, not just Marylin Manson.


that's include prince fans, the ones that used to sing "loveisgodgodislove" back in the '80?

p.s. tom, your avatar is cute! who is him?
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Reply #17 posted 08/07/03 6:08am

Tom

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hazel said:

tom said:
Actually, if you look at the 9 satanic statements, many people follow them and don't even realize it, not just Marylin Manson.


that's include prince fans, the ones that used to sing "loveisgodgodislove" back in the '80?

p.s. tom, your avatar is cute! who is him?


It's Brian Baker, the Sprint guy! smile
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Reply #18 posted 08/07/03 6:21am

garganta

marilyn manson is musically irrelevant, for gawd´s sake!!
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Reply #19 posted 08/07/03 6:24am

hazel

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garganta said:
marilyn manson is musically irrelevant, for gawd´s sake!!


an accurate answere..tanx. How's spain in this season?
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Reply #20 posted 08/07/03 6:34am

garganta

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garganta said:
marilyn manson is musically irrelevant, for gawd´s sake!!


an accurate answere..tanx. How's spain in this season?


hot as all hell, you can assume, what about Italy? smile
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Reply #21 posted 08/07/03 7:49am

hazel

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too hot! should we emigrate to german?
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Reply #22 posted 08/07/03 10:33am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

. While Manson lives my almost every aspect of Satanism, he doesn't commit to worship or rituals. He's really just into the philosophy of it, like I am.

Really now?Why don't u just own up and say that you're trying to be like him?
"a man without enemies is a man without movement."
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Reply #23 posted 08/09/03 3:34pm

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Tom wrote:



Actually, if you look at the 9 satanic statements, many people follow them and don't even realize it, not just Marylin Manson.

He throws around wild imagery and remarks on the surface just to drive conservative people nuts. If you spend a few minutes to actually look into his lyrics and his agenda, you'll see that he's really not a bad person at all, but someone who is hurt and wants change.

Too many conservatives spend more time complaining about shock artists without even looking at the work itself. The way some people respond to his music proves that.

It's like people standing outside of a museum protesting a Maplethorpe exhibit, when 95% of them know practically nothing about him or his work, and didn't even see the show or at least read the artist's statement on the wall. We don't prosecute people in court without carefully reviewing the evidence, why do we damn artists without even looking at their work?


It's true, most people do follow the 9 Satanic statements, and totally don't realize it. But it's not just conservatives who are against Manson, a lot of people are. Manson himself is more conservative politically, as he has said, so it's not a political thing. It's those who take religion too seriosuly that are offended and create problems. I'm very conservative myself, but nothing about Manson bothers me cuz I'm not a hard-core religius fanatic.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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