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PrintableJanfriend said: tackam said: I swear that Janet said at some point that she is bi. . .perhaps I'm insane. . .
She never said she was bi there were roumors that Rene was gonna expose something about that in a book (that never came out) Then on Oprah she DID say that she is open minded and she did have a crush on a girl in school. Then The Velvet Rope stuff is mysterious so if so if not whatever...but The Velvet Rope is without a doubt the best Janet album (other than Rhythm Nation) Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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The Velvet Rope is without a doubt the best Janet album (other than Rhythm Nation)[/quote]
I know that album is a classic, she was in a zone with Jam and Lewis with that record It reminds of POP version of "BITTER" by MShell | |
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Axchi696 said: Ellie said: VinnyM27 said: And what song/interlude is the line "your choochie gone swell up and fall apart" from? I heard Sandra Bernhard say that in her act (and cite the Janet album, she does some great jokes on female music stars) but thought she made it up.
The quote is "your lips are gonna swell up and fall apart". It's on 'Speakerphone' I wasn't really feelin' Janet's music after all that shit. Actually, the line on 'Speakerphone' is "Your coochie goin' swell up and fall apart". Sandra said it was "And your pussy goin' swell up and explode" (for comic effect, I'm sure) but I'm sure you are right. | |
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VinnyM27 said:[quote]Axchi696 said:[quote]Ellie said:[quote] VinnyM27 said: And what song/interlude is the line "your choochie gone swell up and fall apart" from? I
Sandra said it was "And your pussy goin' swell up and explode" (for comic effect, I'm sure) but I'm sure you are right. I cann't stand Sandra Behrnard She's so arrogant She's alway hating on Mariah, she said Mariah trying to act N***ish, how dare she use that word and say Mariah (who is half african american) is a N***R I bet all hell would breal loose if "Sandra" was made to feel inferior about "minority" staus [This message was edited Wed Jul 9 9:33:59 PDT 2003 by twink69] | |
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twink69 said: good point about
AFY been a straight fest After Velvet Rope's gay theme and resulting in Janet's least commercial success She couldn't have had song more "hetro" than All for You it was like "I love men" "I love C**K" I don't think TVR had a "gay theme." It was an experimental/explorational work. Many of Janet's close friends are gay (many of the Kids -- her dancers) so she was letting it be known that she is an "ally." I don't think Janet was like, "hey y'all I'm a homo!" on TVR, she was just exploring different themes and topics. It ties in with the theme of the album "The Velvet Rope," we limit ourselves in so many ways and put up barriers, TVR was making commentary on all different kinds of barriers be it sexual, emotional, spiritual, etc. Janet never explicitly came out and said "ooh, everything on my album is true and exact." There's a level of mystery and ambiguity in the album, that's what's so captivating about it. Her albums are her diaries, TVR was the space Janet was in 1997. She was exploring herself sexually and psychologically. | |
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THE VELVET ROPE did have gay themes,
The only dispointing was her not admitting to her "escapades"C'mon everyone who has been around Janet or her Dancers know about her and Shawn but then again it is her choice, not for us to say Still after Velvet Rope, she took all back almost and then the Beanie man duet,whaoa slap in the face | |
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paisleypark4 said: Janfriend said: tackam said: I swear that Janet said at some point that she is bi. . .perhaps I'm insane. . .
She never said she was bi there were roumors that Rene was gonna expose something about that in a book (that never came out) Then on Oprah she DID say that she is open minded and she did have a crush on a girl in school. Then The Velvet Rope stuff is mysterious so if so if not whatever...but The Velvet Rope is without a doubt the best Janet album (other than Rhythm Nation) As a matter of fact, Janet has never said anything explicity announcing her sexuality (believe me, I've read almost every interview/article imaginable on the woman). She did indeed say she was "not gay" in Vibe magazine, but that was about it. She has always maintained a level of ambiguity and she leaves the question open-ended. She allows us to come to our own conclusions. She did say in Vibe back in 2001 that she had a crush on a girl when she was an adolescent, but that was the extent. About the Shawnette/Janet situation, many people have issues about that and it's nobody's business. If they did something, then hey they did. But it's not like Janet is suddenly Ms. Ellen Degeneres or somebody. It's a known fact that Janet goes out on the town a lot with her entourage: dancers, associates, friends, etc. Plus, just because she MAY or MAY NOT have fooled around with other women doesn't mean she's a lesbian. You have male porn stars that do gay porno for the money, but have girlfriends and wives and can't stand having sex with men, when you want some money, however, you'll do what you have to do. So hey, who knows? 
Oh yeah and as for Rene, let's not get into that sorry excuse for a... Homeboy was messing with Tina when he was married with Janet, plus he was messing with some other females (and mal...OOPS! I'll spare y'all. [This message was edited Wed Jul 9 9:49:27 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] | |
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twink69 said: THE VELVET ROPE did have gay themes,
The only dispointing was her not admitting to her "escapades"C'mon everyone who has been around Janet or her Dancers know about her and Shawn but then again it is her choice, not for us to say Still after Velvet Rope, she took all back almost and then the Beanie man duet,whaoa slap in the face The Beenie Man situation. Yes, Beenie Man made homophobic comments on his last album. Janet wasn't aware of that and it wasn't brought to her knowledge when she gave her vocals to Beenie Man for "Feel It Boy." Notice how I said "gave." Janet never was in the studio with Beenie, she recorded her vocals at a separate session. Both Janet and Beenie are Virgin artists. Their label set up the duet and she was offered cheddar to do the project. I'm pretty sure if she knew Beenie made the comments she would have something to say. A lot of the time when artists do duets, they don't really like each other, the record company sets it up a lot of the time. For example, have you heard Loon's "How You Want That" featuring Kelis. Well, Kelis recorded vocals for that song in a separate studio and her management pitched it to Loon's team. They liked her vocals and decided to use it for the hook without informing Kelis. Kelis is engaged with Nas and Nas has beef with Loon. Kelis hates that track and she said that she stopped doing hooks after that because it was wack how her voice was being misused and thrown everywhere. Man, I type a lot. LOL | |
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Oh yeah and as for Rene, let's not get into that sorry excuse for a... Homeboy was messing with Tina when he was married with Janet, plus he was messing with some other females (and mal...OOPS! I'll spare y'all.
[This message was edited Wed Jul 9 9:49:27 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] [/quote] OMG (JAW DROPS TO THE FLOOR) Was he messing wit Tina (ugly, crack head) Landon??? What a biatch, Is Janet and her Friends?? OMG please tell us more I thought Tina was srt8 up gay? | |
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twink69 said: Oh yeah and as for Rene, let's not get into that sorry excuse for a... Homeboy was messing with Tina when he was married with Janet, plus he was messing with some other females (and mal...OOPS! I'll spare y'all.
[This message was edited Wed Jul 9 9:49:27 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] OMG (JAW DROPS TO THE FLOOR)
Was he messing wit Tina (ugly, crack head) Landon??? What a biatch, Is Janet and her Friends?? OMG please tell us more I thought Tina was srt8 up gay? Hell no, Tina wasn't gay. She was engaged to Rob (one of the kids) in 1998. I just saw her in clyb her in L.A. about 3 weeks ago and she looked good. She was cute [This message was edited Wed Jul 9 21:17:35 PDT 2003 by Janfriend] | |
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JANFAN4L said: paisleypark4 said: Janfriend said: tackam said: I swear that Janet said at some point that she is bi. . .perhaps I'm insane. . .
She never said she was bi there were roumors that Rene was gonna expose something about that in a book (that never came out) Then on Oprah she DID say that she is open minded and she did have a crush on a girl in school. Then The Velvet Rope stuff is mysterious so if so if not whatever...but The Velvet Rope is without a doubt the best Janet album (other than Rhythm Nation) As a matter of fact, Janet has never said anything explicity announcing her sexuality (believe me, I've read almost every interview/article imaginable on the woman). She did indeed say she was "not gay" in Vibe magazine, but that was about it. She has always maintained a level of ambiguity and she leaves the question open-ended. She allows us to come to our own conclusions. She did say in Vibe back in 2001 that she had a crush on a girl when she was an adolescent, but that was the extent. About the Shawnette/Janet situation, many people have issues about that and it's nobody's business. If they did something, then hey they did. But it's not like Janet is suddenly Ms. Ellen Degeneres or somebody. It's a known fact that Janet goes out on the town a lot with her entourage: dancers, associates, friends, etc. Plus, just because she MAY or MAY NOT have fooled around with other women doesn't mean she's a lesbian. You have male porn stars that do gay porno for the money, but have girlfriends and wives and can't stand having sex with men, when you want some money, however, you'll do what you have to do. So hey, who knows?
Oh yeah and as for Rene, let's not get into that sorry excuse for a... Homeboy was messing with Tina when he was married with Janet, plus he was messing with some other females (and mal...OOPS! I'll spare y'all. [This message was edited Wed Jul 9 9:49:27 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] Is that why she stopped working with Tina? I know that she caught Rene cheating by pretending she was going away on a trip. She and Tina were friends for a long as time | |
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I don't see how The Velvet Rope is "experimental". It's filled with samples and a lot of the best tracks are rip offs of tracks by lesser known artists who aren't successful in the USA. | |
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Ellie said: I don't see how The Velvet Rope is "experimental". It's filled with samples and a lot of the best tracks are rip offs of tracks by lesser known artists who aren't successful in the USA.
The velvet rope WAS experimental, She opened up like never before on this album being true to herself.Just because a few samples have been used she still incorperated the music into "her own" style. | |
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deeplove said: Ellie said: I don't see how The Velvet Rope is "experimental". It's filled with samples and a lot of the best tracks are rip offs of tracks by lesser known artists who aren't successful in the USA.
The velvet rope WAS experimental, She opened up like never before on this album being true to herself.Just because a few samples have been used she still incorperated the music into "her own" style. I concur, deeplove. The subject matter and themes of TVR were experimental for Janet and so were the soundscapes. Who knew a pop artist like Janet would take influence from Joni Mitchell...I don't think other popsters were on that tip during that time. 1997 was the year of Puff Daddy and the Spice Girls and Janet was on some other s.h.i. during this period. Janet pre-TVR was all about drill-team dance moves and euphoro-pop. With "The Velvet Rope," however, her music took a decidedly deep and introspective turn. | |
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Oh well, I just preferred Kylie's brilliant 'Confide In Me' instead. I really went off Janet around 1998. Something I can't quite put my finger on, but it irritates me so much.
It's so weird because I was a huge fan around 1993-1994. I'd never heard of her before that though. I remember 'That's The Way Love Goes' coming out, and I remember hearing it on the radio one day with my friend and we were both Michael fanatics, and we thought it was rather sad that his sister was riding off his coat tails. We did not know a THING about the woman. By the time the Dangerous era had finally died out by Christmas, I gave Janet's album a chance and loved it. Loved all the earlier stuff which I had a hell of a time trying to get hold of. Control and Rhythm Nation had been deleted in the UK for a while then. [This message was edited Sat Jul 12 10:50:48 PDT 2003 by Ellie] | |
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Yes Ms. Jackson is certainly gay...more or less bi-sexual and she doenst make it all that secretive...she made over Rod Stewert's (another bi-sexual) "Tonight's The Night" and it was supposed to be a female and male threesome thingy, but Janet was mostly talking about how she was going to take the girls virginity.
Whitney used to dabble in that lifestyle also...;bored: Queen Latifah is gay...my mothers friend owns a lezbo bar in LA, she said that Latifah used to show up there AS WELL AS Miss JANET with their lovers 
Da Brat wasnt and isnt gay, she was with one of the most cutest BASKETBALL STARS for a long time: Mr Allen Iverson  who when they broke up married his baby momma. So many of our stars on on the low with their sexuality...and it would be the least expected ones too. Imagine if some of the so-called thugs of hip hop came out the closet... Riots and chaos may ensue  amongst my generation
BTW: TVR is one of my favorite albums by Janet..."Janet"...and "All For You" are the other two fav's   &  | |
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Oh, BTW I bought my first Janet item for a very long time today. I found an excellent condition copy of the 'Two To The Power of Love' single. Poor Cliff. His chart history in the UK is only rivalled by Elvis, yet he was reduced to duetting with 16 year old Janet on that piece of piss. But alas, it may be the worst song ever recorded, it's still utterly hilarious. Marlon Jackson produced the B-Side called 'Rock n Roll'. Anyone heard it before? | |
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Ellie said: Oh, BTW I bought my first Janet item for a very long time today. I found an excellent condition copy of the 'Two To The Power of Love' single. Poor Cliff. His chart history in the UK is only rivalled by Elvis, yet he was reduced to duetting with 16 year old Janet on that piece of piss. But alas, it may be the worst song ever recorded, it's still utterly hilarious. Marlon Jackson produced the B-Side called 'Rock n Roll'. Anyone heard it before?
Cliff Richard, right? I read he's gay and wears a colostomy bag. | |
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LOL, poor Cliff. The real Peter Pan of Pop. Still having hits after 50 years and never married. Was apparently in a relationship with Sue Barker once (former British tennis player and now TV sports presenter). | |
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Ellie said: Oh, BTW I bought my first Janet item for a very long time today. I found an excellent condition copy of the 'Two To The Power of Love' single. Poor Cliff. His chart history in the UK is only rivalled by Elvis, yet he was reduced to duetting with 16 year old Janet on that piece of piss. But alas, it may be the worst song ever recorded, it's still utterly hilarious. Marlon Jackson produced the B-Side called 'Rock n Roll'. Anyone heard it before?
If you dislike Janet...why by one of her worst songs from her first ever album!? lol! | |
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I don't like her NOW. I still boghut All For Poo though. Never listen to it, but it's just sitting there in the collection. I just collect all Jacksons stuff. I even have a LaToya live in concert video, and I bought Jackie Jackson's solo album yesterday too. | |
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I seriously doubt tht Janet is gay. Hey whatever she does is her business, aiight?
...And for the record, her first album was not bad. She was just trying to find her identity ut had ti stickwuth the typical Jackson formula. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: I seriously doubt tht Janet is gay. Hey whatever she does is her business, aiight?
It stuck with the typical LaToya Jackson formula....And for the record, her first album was not bad. She was just trying to find her identity ut had ti stickwuth the typical Jackson formula. | |
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Her self-titled debut album was good. It even got good reviews from critics, but "Thriller" came out the same year and everyone's album drowned compared to that one | |
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I prefer Dream Street to the self titled album. I must be the only one. | |
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Ellie said: I don't like her NOW. I still boghut All For Poo though. Never listen to it, but it's just sitting there in the collection. I just collect all Jacksons stuff. I even have a LaToya live in concert video, and I bought Jackie Jackson's solo album yesterday too.
It is certainly NOT all for poo! I LURVE JANET. | |
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utopia7 said: U PEOPLE ARE PATHETIC POST UP YOUR SEXUAL LIFE HERE AT THE ORG INSTEAD OF OTHERS NOSY MFS
LOL...hey,this is Prince.Org,where nothing is off-limits.And the people here DO post details about their own sex life too.Just visit the "General Discussion" forum!  | |
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