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Thread started 06/26/03 1:57pm

Mizzunderstood

Not everybody can understand the funk

Which is why I believe there is hardly no funk bands 2day. Funk music is just as complexed as any other music. It's rhytm comes from deep inside ya soul, ya dig. I don't blame those cats who don't understand the texture , the feel or the concept of the music. It just wasn't in their system 2 comprehend the message. unlike Jazz or Rock n Roll, Funk comes from a different planet. I'm not sure which planet it comes from, but it's for sure as to hell not in our solar system baby.It's in a universe of it's own. This is why at times it can also be universal lol. I think that's what makes it soo interesting. It's unlike any other music, you'll hear on the radio. With R&B you know what's already gon happen, it's either a love song, a song about making love or a song about breaking up.



With Rock, you already know what's it gonna b, it's about some kids with problems, or somebody just wanna have fun,



With rap you , it's always always about the street and jazz... well let's just say jazz is jazz... mann...




Funk on the other hand, is unpredictable, it has no limits. When it comes 2 Funk you never know what your gonna get. Will it be the ever intergalatic facade of aquaboggie, or just the simple groove 2 ahh... the name is bootsy??? U never know, which is the reason why the funk legacy is like that Erykah Badu song. It goes on and on, on and on...



So you either in the groove or you ain't, ahem funk ain't 4 everybody, only the sexy people smile



worship worship worship worship worship worship

I will 4ever live in the funk baby!!

headbang

funk 4 yo soul edit
[This message was edited Thu Jun 26 15:23:23 PDT 2003 by Mizzunderstood]
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Reply #1 posted 06/26/03 2:07pm

UptownDeb

Mizzunderstood said:

I don't blame those who don't understand the feel or the concept. It just wasn't in their system 2 comprehend the message.


I guess this concept works both ways, 'cause I sure as heck don't get Radiohead!
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Reply #2 posted 06/26/03 2:57pm

intha916

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Man I don't know if I get everything you saying but I dug the Journey you just took us on with all those pics. Props!
Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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Reply #3 posted 06/26/03 3:54pm

stymie

Very cool! Nothing in music today makes me shake my head and scrunch up my face from that stuff, that funk, that sweet, that funky stuff! Saadiq has some really true funky moments and a precious few other folks but it ain't nothin' like the 70's with Sly, Bootsy and George.
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Reply #4 posted 06/26/03 3:56pm

Slave2daGroove

Well said. Love the pics.

Funk is also one of the few kinds of music that can only make you happy.

peace



I'm workin on the funk - edit
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Reply #5 posted 06/26/03 4:03pm

bananacologne

ON DA ONE.
there ya go - I got it nod
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Reply #6 posted 06/26/03 6:52pm

paisleypark4

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I got jam in my leg..im ready spread...




Pledge a groovalleigance 2 da funk
the united funk of funkadelica
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #7 posted 06/26/03 7:14pm

youngsoulrebel

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funk has always been the sound of the underground

the feel from the street

the vibe from tha sweet soul of da righteous

but i disagree, tha one is still thumping to this day

it is just harder to hear amongst all this

fabricated shit polluting the airwaves.

as for funk coming from a different planet, brotha please

funk is the child of jazz, the father of rap and the

nephew of soul

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Reply #8 posted 06/26/03 7:40pm

DigitalLisa

look all I know is they show where some bad azz mutha phucka's, can't nobody phuck with that lol...

Honorable Mention

the doobie brothers



The Isley Brothers
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Reply #9 posted 06/26/03 7:51pm

PurpleJedi

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You can't say THEY ain't got the FUNK!!!



evillol
evillol
evillol
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #10 posted 06/26/03 7:53pm

Mizzunderstood

PurpleJedi said:

You can't say THEY ain't got the FUNK!!!



evillol
evillol
evillol

mad my intelligence is insulted

boxing
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Reply #11 posted 06/26/03 8:31pm

PurpleJedi

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Mizzunderstood said:

PurpleJedi said:

You can't say THEY ain't got the FUNK!!!



evillol
evillol
evillol

mad my intelligence is insulted

boxing



...anytime...anytime... nod
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #12 posted 06/26/03 10:44pm

JesseDezz

I manage a small guitar store in good 'ol New Jersey. The thing I've noticed is that none of the young people who take music lessons with us have any knowledge of funk music. Neither do the teachers - I've always felt that funk music is a lost art. When I tell customers that I play in a funk band - you can check us out at www.tonos.com/slm7567 - I get blank stares or questions pertaining to how many horns are in the band...

I had to sub for one of the teachers once. I gave a funk lesson to a young bass player. I just played some funk rhythms for him to improvise over. He looked like he had just discovered gold. I also gave him names of some of the greats - the Isleys, Bootsy, Prince...If there were more like him...

Oh well sad

Come back, Mint Condition!!!
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Reply #13 posted 06/27/03 7:21am

paisleypark4

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JesseDezz said:

I manage a small guitar store in good 'ol New Jersey. The thing I've noticed is that none of the young people who take music lessons with us have any knowledge of funk music. Neither do the teachers - I've always felt that funk music is a lost art. When I tell customers that I play in a funk band - you can check us out at www.tonos.com/slm7567 - I get blank stares or questions pertaining to how many horns are in the band...

I had to sub for one of the teachers once. I gave a funk lesson to a young bass player. I just played some funk rhythms for him to improvise over. He looked like he had just discovered gold. I also gave him names of some of the greats - the Isleys, Bootsy, Prince...If there were more like him...

Oh well sad

Come back, Mint Condition!!!




U hav 2 b born in2 the funk and not taught...it captures elements from the soul
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #14 posted 06/27/03 7:58am

Mizzunderstood

paisleypark4 said:

JesseDezz said:

I manage a small guitar store in good 'ol New Jersey. The thing I've noticed is that none of the young people who take music lessons with us have any knowledge of funk music. Neither do the teachers - I've always felt that funk music is a lost art. When I tell customers that I play in a funk band - you can check us out at www.tonos.com/slm7567 - I get blank stares or questions pertaining to how many horns are in the band...

I had to sub for one of the teachers once. I gave a funk lesson to a young bass player. I just played some funk rhythms for him to improvise over. He looked like he had just discovered gold. I also gave him names of some of the greats - the Isleys, Bootsy, Prince...If there were more like him...

Oh well sad

Come back, Mint Condition!!!




U hav 2 b born in2 the funk and not taught...it captures elements from the soul

Preach on brotha... Well

pray
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Reply #15 posted 06/27/03 8:11am

paisleypark4

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Mizzunderstood said:


Preach on brotha... Well

pray[/quote]


thanx:) funk is so mysterious, u can get lost in it. May never wanna cum out omg
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #16 posted 06/27/03 12:25pm

UptownDeb

Did Sly have the most wicked mutton chops, or what!? I heard a SFS joint today that I don't think I've ever heard: "Frisky." How did I sleep on this one??? omg

I love the old pix of the Isley Bros. The two brothers on either side of Mr. Bigg--I mean--Ronald Isley, look like the brothers I always wished I had. I mean, they look like they could kick ass.
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Reply #17 posted 06/27/03 12:46pm

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UptownDeb said:

Mizzunderstood said:

I don't blame those who don't understand the feel or the concept. It just wasn't in their system 2 comprehend the message.


I guess this concept works both ways, 'cause I sure as heck don't get Radiohead!


A FUNKIN' MEN, I don't understand the hype of that band,it's an ugly dude singin' about god only knows what & all of the music sounds the same,like "mope rock"! barf
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Reply #18 posted 06/27/03 1:16pm

UptownDeb

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A FUNKIN' MEN, I don't understand the hype of that band,it's an ugly dude singin' about god only knows what & all of the music sounds the same,like "mope rock"! barf


LOL! I thought it was more like pot rock.
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Reply #19 posted 06/27/03 7:47pm

SWANG

UptownDeb said:

Did Sly have the most wicked mutton chops, or what!? I heard a SFS joint today that I don't think I've ever heard: "Frisky." How did I sleep on this one??? omg



From Fresh...another classic...

-SWANGadelic
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Reply #20 posted 06/27/03 9:01pm

JesseDezz

Mizzunderstood said:

U hav 2 b born in2 the funk and not taught...it captures elements from the soul


Quit with all the mystical "elements from the soul" crap - funk music is a style of music, which CAN be taught. Granted, not everyone's born with the funk in them, but they can me made aware of the funk. That's my biggest point -they're not AWARE of the funk...

And please quit with the "prince speak"...
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Reply #21 posted 06/28/03 2:13am

Mizzunderstood

JesseDezz said:

Mizzunderstood said:

U hav 2 b born in2 the funk and not taught...it captures elements from the soul


Quit with all the mystical "elements from the soul" crap - funk music is a style of music, which CAN be taught. Granted, not everyone's born with the funk in them, but they can me made aware of the funk. That's my biggest point -they're not AWARE of the funk...

And please quit with the "prince speak"...



pat Just preaching the good word brotha Jesse. Just preaching the good word... can I get a amen 2 count it off

and what's this Prince I keep hearing about confuse

mr.green
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Reply #22 posted 06/28/03 2:32am

DigitalLisa

ahem, u can learn about the history of funk, but if u ain't born with it, u just ain't born with it. No books or Teachers in the world can teach u how 2 groove like these mutha's did. U see Funk music is deep bro ham. If the seed wasn't grained while in the womb, it'll be a difficult journey 2 follow and hard 4 yo mind 2 fully understand the elements. That goes for any music though. Yeah you can be taught, but there is a difference between natural talent and trained musician. ... without getting 2 much away from the topic, I always could hear the difference between the two. A trained musician (which is something I am) studys what they where taught,there's no spice 2 the subtance. but I always dug the natural musicians better, because I could hear the rhytm flow much more gracefully (depening on the individual at hand)however. with a natural talent, it comes 2 them freely them, because it was given and in alot of ways that is how I view Funk music ...
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Reply #23 posted 06/28/03 2:48am

sinisterpentat
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I admit those posted are the real deal but this here is the raw uncut funk, let me see how many of yall no about this here




Sonny boy williamson



howlin' wolf




Muddy Waters

you can call it blues if you wanna!! But these cats invented the funk.
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Reply #24 posted 06/28/03 11:46am

Vibrator

The real beauty with funk is that it can infiltrate other musical styles. All of a sudden you stumble across a hard rock song that´s funky like there´s no tomorrow. Or a drum ´n bass song with a bass line that´s so funky you can´t stand still for one second. Funk is a feeling. Funk is joy. Funk is energy. And you always know when you hear it, no matter what musical costume it might be wearing at the time.
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Reply #25 posted 06/28/03 12:02pm

JesseDezz

To DigitalLisa and anyone else who's not getting the gist of my post - funk is definitely an inherent thing, albeit one that can be taught, i.e., the history, the players, techniques. Trained musician or not (and I am also), my concern is that so many of our young musicians are not AWARE of the funk - they don't know anything about it. That's what I'm talking about. I feel that funk music is worthy of being discussed along with all other types of music. In that respect, funk music CAN be taught. There is a viable history that needs to be made aware to the woefully uninformed.
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Reply #26 posted 06/29/03 6:40pm

NWF

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To put it simply, Mizzunderstood (& I hope you see this), FUNK IS DEAD!!!

The funk is lacking these days cuz no one seems to care. It's either about synthesized hip-hop/R&B or loud distorted rock or plastic pop. I can name you some bands of today that come close to being funky:

Radio 4
Los Amigos Invisibles
Maroon 5
Dismemberment Plan
The Rapture (check these guys out)
Soulive
Chocolate Genius
The Liars
Cody ChestnuTT

and you have the veterans:

Fishbone
D'Angelo
Red Hot Chili Peppers (but even they've decided to go into different directions)
Prince (duh!)
Level 42 (yes, they're back!)


But funk is'nt around cuz folks don't really take that genre seriously. After all, wasn't just a danceable alternative to Rhythm & Blues? There's just so many other danceable forms of music that have left funk in the dust. Hopefully the funk shall return. And because I'm a very funk-rooted rhythm guitarist, I'd like to be apart of that resurrection.
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Reply #27 posted 06/29/03 7:12pm

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Let us not forget about Johnny "Guitar" Watson.
It's A Real Mother For Ya
Johnny Guitar Watson
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Reply #28 posted 06/29/03 7:15pm

DigitalLisa

NWF said:

To put it simply, Mizzunderstood (& I hope you see this), FUNK IS DEAD!!!

The funk is lacking these days cuz no one seems to care. It's either about synthesized hip-hop/R&B or loud distorted rock or plastic pop. I can name you some bands of today that come close to being funky:

Radio 4
Los Amigos Invisibles
Maroon 5
Dismemberment Plan
The Rapture (check these guys out)
Soulive
Chocolate Genius
The Liars
Cody ChestnuTT

and you have the veterans:

Fishbone
D'Angelo
Red Hot Chili Peppers (but even they've decided to go into different directions)
Prince (duh!)
Level 42 (yes, they're back!)


But funk is'nt around cuz folks don't really take that genre seriously. After all, wasn't just a danceable alternative to Rhythm & Blues? There's just so many other danceable forms of music that have left funk in the dust. Hopefully the funk shall return. And because I'm a very funk-rooted rhythm guitarist, I'd like to be apart of that resurrection.

Funk ain't dead, It just skip a generation,maybe the next generation will be mo lucky

neutral

Funk edit
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Reply #29 posted 06/30/03 9:23am

Slave2daGroove

Just bought a CD from 2001

Funky Meters - Live at the Filmore

These cats are so funky, have you heard this disc?

I'm working on bringing the funk to the people. I will have mp3s to liten to by 7.15, stay tuned.
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