This is a badass set...amazing sound...BUT WHY PUT THE CDs IN THOSE GODDAMN ANNOYING PAPER CASES THAT SCRATCH THEM UP???!?!?!???!


Seriously, after just a few times of putting my CDs in/out of their paper slips, they're already scratched. WTF??!?!?

I put all my favorite CDs in a bunch of 400 or 200 multi disc players. Saves a lot of space and wear and tear on the CDs. Than I put all the CD booklets in those leather bound CD folders for reference.Makes it some sort of album art folder.

PhilG said:

I just sold my 400-CD player...I bought a SACD/DVD player with the money, and I'm damn happy! It is difficult, however, to get used to the old "one disc at a time" thing. It's been a decade since I last did so...

God, Bowie is a reisuue whore !!! How many f*&kin times do I have to buy his albums?!

KingSausage said:

kewl, whatever floats your boat!!

how much are those 400 cd disc changer joints? a boy might need to look into that!

KingSausage said:

I agree with you.
although the whole package looks great i'm also thinking that the cd's will scratch in no time.
maybe this is done so that you will also buy the 35th or 40th anniversary edition.

mynameisnotsusan said:

as long as the reissues have got some decent bonus tracks i don't mind buying them over and over again.

i was listening to this very set in the car this morning PLAYING 'AT MAXIMUM VOLUME' as instructed!. Didn't really have a problem with the paper disc holders though. By the way aren't the sleeve notes great, i'm amazed that Ziggy and Hunky Dory were done within weeks of each other.

I don't like the paper sleeves either. I put the CDs in a regular jewel case.

In addition to not using the paper sleeves, I wish they would've included the lyrics! Same goes for the Ziggy reissue. Maybe it's no big deal for the older fans who got the lyrics on older versions (were they included?), but it's a pain in the ass for a new fan like myself who has to go looking for them. All albums should come with lyrics.

Raven said:

co-sign . Japanese reissues come in LP repros w/ lyrics(japanese & english).The CDs housed in cloth sleeves sometimes. The Japanese really care about their reissues. domestic reissues can be crappy.
[This message was edited Thu Jun 26 13:11:15 PDT 2003 by PhilG]
[This message was edited Thu Jun 26 13:11:35 PDT 2003 by PhilG]

My copy of Aladdin Sane which I bought...maybe 10 years ago has the lyrics. What are the extra tracks? I guess I could go look at BestBuy or something

Raven said:

You have to do a lot to scratch most cds. Sausage must just throw his shit around..lol

theblueangel said:

01 John, I'm Only Dancing (sax version)
02 The Jean Genie (Original Single mix)
03 Time (single edit)
04 All The Young Dudes
05 Changes (Recorded live at the Music Hall, Boston 1/10/72)
06 The Supermen (Recorded live at the Music Hall, Boston 1/10/72)
07 Life On Mars? (Recorded live at the Music Hall, Boston 1/10/72)
08 John, I'm Only Dancing (Recorded live at the Music Hall, Boston 1/10/72)
09 The Jean Genie (Recorded live at Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica 20/10/72)
10 Drive-In Saturday (Recorded live at the Public Hall, Cleveland on 25/11/72)

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

You can get one on eBay for really cheap right now!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eB...14975&rd=1

Raven said:

Damn straight. I was just saying that shit to my fiancee this morning...how the lyrics being gone is some cheap shit...

2freaky4church1 said:

No, the paper cases SERIOUSLY scratch these discs. It's almost like they engineered them to do so specifically. It's bullshit...

mynameisnotsusan said:

As long as the reissues keep getting more and more gorgeous, lavish and full of goodies, I'm always gonna be a sucker. The Ryko Sound+Vision reissues will always be the "I'm Not Worthy!!!" collection for me, and the Virgin reissues were kinda cheesy (but a chance to pick up the few discs I foolishly overlooked when the Ryko reissues were released), but these hardback-book versions of the classic Bowie albums are a no-brainer choice for me - I'm lappin' em up like a thirsty little pussy to a fresh bowl of cream. The "Aladdin Sane" reissue was completely worth it for that alternate version of "Time" and the alternate pic of the album cover w/ Bowie staring at the camera - and I'm a packaging whore, so I'm a happy boy...

''As long as the reissues keep getting more and more gorgeous, lavish and full of goodies, I'm always gonna be a sucker. The Ryko Sound+Vision reissues will always be the "I'm Not Worthy!!!" collection for me,''


- There are plans to reissue Sound+Vision with a forth disc FULL of tracks in a few months.

''The "Aladdin Sane" reissue was completely worth it for that alternate version of "Time" and the alternate pic of the album cover w/ Bowie staring at the camera - and I'm a packaging whore, so I'm a happy boy''


- 'Time' was taken from a factory pressed bootleg believe it or not which came out a couplr of years back. Bowie took it directly off this cd... can u see prince ever being that cool? No.
Oh yeah, I'm afraid the Bowie 'staring at the camera' picture is a fake photoshop job, the eyes were actually taken from the cover of 'Pin Ups' lp.

Cheers
TheLodger

KingSausage said:

good goddamn! thanks for the tip.

KingSausage said:

This is something I hate about the otherwise wonderful Miles Davis sets ,too.

I just noticed in the liner notes that the Jean Genie live track is "taken from the forthcoming CD David Bowie - Live in Santa Monica '72". Anybody know more about this?

Raven said:

WHAT??!?!?

Raven said:

this was already released a couple of years ago, but is apperently also in the running for a rerelease.

noepie said:

Sheesh! Are they gonna re-release all his shit?

Can anyone here point me to a Bowie website that has a complete discography?

Raven said:

http://www.illustrated-db...graphy.nl/

as far as i know, santa monica is NOT being reissued anytime soon. it didn't sell when it first came out. mind you, those liner notes could very well be from the "sound and vision" box.

i could be, and very possibly am, completely wrong. i know "black tie white noise", "outside", and "earthling" double disc reissues come out this year.

SleezyG said:

It is being reissued, digitally remastered too.
p.s. note my username, I'm from bowinet

Cheers
TheLodger

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


2003-06-19 11:00:22
EMI Catalogue are proud to release David Bowie's Black Tie White Noise on 4th August 2003 as a special edition three disc set


DAVID BOWIE BLACK TIE WHITE NOISE (SPECIAL EDITION)
Cat No: 848 1402

EMI Catalogue are proud to release David Bowie's Black Tie White Noise on 4th August 2003 as a special edition three disc set.

Disc 1 is the original twelve track album while CD 2 has rare and previously unreleased tracks and mixes. The third disc contains the Black Tie White Noise home video originally released as a VHS and now made available for the first time officially on DVD.

Originally released in 1993 on Arista and Savage Records, Black Tie White Noise reunited Bowie with legendary producer Nile Rodgers for the first time since their collaboration on Let's Dance. Appearing for the first time since the days of Ziggy Stardust is Spiders guitarist Mick Ronson. Other guests include avant-garde jazz musician Lester Bowie and new jack swing vocalist Al B. Sure!. According to reports at the time, Bowie recorded the album as a wedding present for his wife Iman and as a response to the L.A. riots and the racial tension surrounding them. Black Tie White Noise was regarded by critics as a return to form following Bowie's foray into the group set up of Tin Machine. Entering the UK album charts at number one (deposing Suede's debut album), Black Tie... signalled a commercial renaissance whilst maintaining Bowie's reputation for innovation. In the US the album received a limited distribution on the short lived Savage Records label but still reached a chart peak of number thirty nine.

The album features the hit singles 'Jump They Say', 'Black Tie White Noise' and 'Miracle Goodnight' and a cover of Morrissey's 'I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday'. Morrissey's original was recorded for his album Your Arsenal which was produced by Mick Ronson and is clearly influenced by 'Rock 'n' Roll Suicide' from Bowie's own Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars. Bowie said at the time he tried to record '...Someday' as if he were back in 1974 - and his interpretation of the song was highly praised by Morrissey himself. Other covers included are Cream's 'I Feel Free', which Bowie and Ronson used to cover in concert back in '72, and 'Nite Flights' by The Walker Brothers from the album of the same name which also contains Scott Walker's seminal 'The Electrician'. Bowie had been a fan of Walker's voice since the late 60's and the material on the Nite Flights album almost led to the two collaborating.

Of the other tracks 'You've Been Around' is a radical reworking of a Tin Machine era live song, 'Pallas Athena' and 'Looking For Lester' are two experimental dance and jazz infused instrumentals respectively and 'Don't Let Me Down And Down' which is a reworking, with English lyrics, of 'Jangan Susahkan Hatiku' an Indonesian love song. The Indonesian vocal version can be found on CD 2 of the limited edition set.

The two tracks that top and tail the album, 'The Wedding' and 'The Wedding Song' respectively, are based on the same backing track. 'The Wedding' is an instrumental composed for David's wedding and musically attempts to integrate both the Church Of England and Muslim ethics of the partnership. 'The Wedding Song', however, is basically a love song to his bride and is an effective way of ending the set.

This is the first time Black Tie White Noise has been available through EMI, and follows on from the hugely successful Aladdin Sane and Ziggy Stardust reissues.

Please note the 3 disc set will be only be available until December 31st 2003


Tracklisting:

CD 1:

1. The Wedding
2. You've Been Around
3. I Feel Free
4. Black Tie White Noise
5. Jump They Say
6. Nite Flights
7. Pallas Athena
8. Miracle Goodnight
9. Don't Let Me Down And Down
10.Looking For Lester
11.I Know It's Going To Happen Someday
12.The Wedding Song



CD 2:

1. Real Cool World (5.25)
Previously only available on the Warners soundtrack album Songs From The Cool World (9362-45009-2).

2. Lucy Can't Dance (5.48)
B-side previously available as a bonus track on the CD version of the original album release.

3. Jump They Say (Rock Mix) (4.04)
Previously unreleased commercially. Only previously available on a Savage Records CD promo (SADJ-50044-2) in the US.

4. Black Tie White Noise (3rd Floor US Radio Mix) (3.40)
Previously released commercially on a Savage Records CD single (74785-5045-2) in the US.

5. Miracle Goodnight (Make Believe Mix) (4.28)
Previously only available on the Miracle Goodnight 12" single (74321 16226 1) on Arista. Previously unavailable on CD.

6. Don't Let Me Down And Down (Indonesian Vocal Version) (4.53)
Previously only available on the Arista CD & cassette version of the album in Singapore (72431 14071 2).

7. You've Been Around (Dangers 12" Remix) (7.39)
Previously released on the Arista Black Tie White Noise CD single (72431 14868 2) in edited form. This full mix is previously unreleased.

8. Jump They Say (Brothers In Rhythm 12" Remix) (8.22)
Previously released on the Arista Jump They Say CD single (72431 13943 2).

9. Black Tie White Noise (Here Come Da Jazz) (5.32)
Only previously available on an Arista UK 12" promo (BLACK 1).

10.Pallas Athena (Don't Stop Praying Remix No 2) (7.26)
Only previously available on an Arista UK 12" promo (MEAT 1).

11.Nite Flights (Moodswings Back To Basics Remix)) (9.52)
Previously only released on an Arista UK 12" promo (HOME 1).

12.Jump They Say (Dub Oddity) (6.13)
A Leftfield mix previously only available on the Arista European 12" single of Jump They Say (72431 13942 1).




DVD:

1. Introduction
2. With Lester Bowie
3. On Reeves Gabrels
4. You've Been Around (Recorded at the Hollywood Center Studios, Los Angeles, 5/8/93)
5. Expanding and Experimenting
6. Nite Flights (Recorded at the Hollywood Center Studios, Los Angeles, 5/8/93)
7. Otherness
8. Miracle Goodnight (Recorded at the Hollywood Center Studios, Los Angeles, 5/8/93)
9. On Marriage
10. Black Tie White Noise (Recorded at the Hollywood Center Studios, Los Angeles, 5/8/93)
11. With Mick Ronson
12. I Feel Free (Recorded at the Hollywood Center Studios, Los Angeles, 5/8/93)
13. With Nile Rodgers
14. I Know It's Going To Happen Someday (Recorded at the Hollywood Center Studios, Los Angeles, 5/8/93)
15. Miracle Goodnight - Promo video
16. Jump They Say - Promo video
17. Black Tie White Noise - Promo video
18. Credits


TheLodger.

p.s. The US release of the album has been pushed back to January/February 2004, although it should still be available elsewhere on the original August 4th 2003 release date.
try cd-wow.com for the cheapest price incl p+p


TheLodger.