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Thread started 06/24/03 11:29am

okaypimpn

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The Female Bald-Headed Soul Revolution

Okay...I'm posting this 1) because I'm terribly upset and 2) I need to get some input on this. Why does it seem as if many female R&B artists that get to a certain point of fame and popularity go and shave their heads? Look at Lauryn Hill, India Arie, and now...my girl Tweet! bawl bawl bawl I just don't get it. Tweet was so beautiful, too. I don't want her to look like someones little brother.
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Reply #1 posted 06/24/03 11:42am

kisscamille

Lauren Hill has shaved her head? omg Can someone post a picture please?
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Reply #2 posted 06/24/03 11:44am

okaypimpn

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kisscamille said:

Lauren Hill has shaved her head? omg Can someone post a picture please?


She's been cut off her dreads. You must not have catched her MTV Unplugged performance. Not skinned bald, but it was pretty low.
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Reply #3 posted 06/24/03 11:47am

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Yes, I did see her MTV special and I do remember her hair being much shorter, but when "okaypimpn" said she'd shaved her head, I almost had a stroke.
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Reply #4 posted 06/24/03 11:55am

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kisscamille said:

Yes, I did see her MTV special and I do remember her hair being much shorter, but when "okaypimpn" said she'd shaved her head, I almost had a stroke.


I don't want you to do that! lol But, since she's cut if off, I just don't think she's as attractive as she once was IMHO.
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Reply #5 posted 06/24/03 2:20pm

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Don't forget Erika Badu. I'm glad she got rid of those Lee Press on Locks! I never believed she had real locks all up in those head wraps anyway.

Two months ago, I chopped off 7 years-worth of (dread)locks. Not to sound flippant, but my thing is, It's only hair. Besides, it was time for a change. I believe change is good.
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Reply #6 posted 06/24/03 10:43pm

DigitalLisa

okaypimpn said:

Okay...I'm posting this 1) because I'm terribly upset and 2) I need to get some input on this. Why does it seem as if many female R&B artists that get to a certain point of fame and popularity go and shave their heads? Look at Lauryn Hill, India Arie, and now...my girl Tweet! bawl bawl bawl I just don't get it. Tweet was so beautiful, too. I don't want her to look like someones little brother.
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The reason why alot R&B female artist cuts off the hair is probably because they're trying to get rid of the dread locks or the chemically damaged relaxed hair 2 start all over again
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Reply #7 posted 06/24/03 11:47pm

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Don't forget Erika Badu. I'm glad she got rid of those Lee Press on Locks! I never believed she had real locks all up in those head wraps anyway.

Two months ago, I chopped off 7 years-worth of (dread)locks. Not to sound flippant, but my thing is, It's only hair. Besides, it was time for a change. I believe change is good.

Yeah, but gosh: Badu was fine with that baldie. Just made her big ol' eyes that much more beautiful. Mmmph!
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Reply #8 posted 06/25/03 7:00am

UptownDeb

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Yeah, but gosh: Badu was fine with that baldie. Just made her big ol' eyes that much more beautiful. Mmmph!


Don't get me wrong. Erika really works that look!
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Reply #9 posted 06/25/03 7:00am

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ThreadBare said:

UptownDeb said:

Don't forget Erika Badu. I'm glad she got rid of those Lee Press on Locks! I never believed she had real locks all up in those head wraps anyway.

Two months ago, I chopped off 7 years-worth of (dread)locks. Not to sound flippant, but my thing is, It's only hair. Besides, it was time for a change. I believe change is good.

Yeah, but gosh: Badu was fine with that baldie. Just made her big ol' eyes that much more beautiful. Mmmph!


No hell she wasn't! She looked like one of the characters from Alien Nation.
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Reply #10 posted 06/25/03 7:03am

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okaypimpn said:

No hell she wasn't! She looked like one of the characters from Alien Nation.


In my opinion it was better than that bag o'(fake) locks sitting on top of her head! smile
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Reply #11 posted 06/25/03 7:06am

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UptownDeb said:

okaypimpn said:

No hell she wasn't! She looked like one of the characters from Alien Nation.


In my opinion it was better than that bag o'(fake) locks sitting on top of her head! smile


I never liked the fake locks either. If I had to choose, I would rather see her in the braids she wore in her "Love of My Life" video or her real locks she wore in the "Other Side of The Game" video. Did you see her last night on the BET Awards? Damn!
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Reply #12 posted 06/28/03 5:32pm

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for some cutting your locs is about change...a spiritual thing according to India and Lauryn. I don't see the big deal. Change is good.


and OMG Uptown...you cut your dreads and I'm about to start mine this summer!!
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Reply #13 posted 06/28/03 7:08pm

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Rhondab said:

for some cutting your locs is about change...a spiritual thing according to India and Lauryn. I don't see the big deal. Change is good.


and OMG Uptown...you cut your dreads and I'm about to start mine this summer!!


I don't either. It broke my heart with Lauryn and I tried to move on when Tweet stepped on the scene, but now she's cut hers, too!!! bawl
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Reply #14 posted 06/28/03 7:37pm

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Maybe they're saying, "appreciate me and like me for what I DO and what I CREATE instead of as a sex symbol?

Crazy, huh? wink

Seriously, though, I am tired of the superficial crap women do to get attention and fame. I think it's fucking kick ass that they are strong and confident enough to do something like that. Separates the pseudo-fans from the real ones.
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Reply #15 posted 06/28/03 7:42pm

SynthiaRose

okaypimpn said:

Okay...I'm posting this 1) because I'm terribly upset and 2) I need to get some input on this. Why does it seem as if many female R&B artists that get to a certain point of fame and popularity go and shave their heads? Look at Lauryn Hill, India Arie, and now...my girl Tweet!





I feel you! I didn't know about Tweet. You just made me scream ... because she had beautiful hair that was really hers ... and really complemented her chocolate beauty.

I didn't care when the others cut their hair, but I will miss Tweet's "aura."

I believe some artists think short hair will help them be taken more seriously ... since the long hair tempts others to perceive their visual charms first and other talents second.

Also, some might think it's a reclamation of ethnic culture. I don't agree with the latter. IN college, I thought I was selling out by straigtening my hair, so I stopped. But then my hair was hard to manage and I got braids. But that hair was fake, so there was no cultural or personal respect in wearing fake hair for me. I'm not into false things.

Then in a convo with a friend of mine, the friend said African Americans are a subculture (of African and European) and that some trends were the natural result of the blended exposure, values, etc.

She thought relaxers was a product of that subculture. I though, hey, that's right. I'm not selling out. I'm accepting the blend ... I'm comfortable with the blend ... and I've been straigtening my hair ever since and am now growing my long hair back.

So if Tweet is doing this for ethnic reasons, I hope she rethinks that.

Ciao.
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Reply #16 posted 06/28/03 7:45pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:

Maybe they're saying, "appreciate me and like me for what I DO and what I CREATE instead of as a sex symbol?

Crazy, huh? wink

Seriously, though, I am tired of the superficial crap women do to get attention and fame. I think it's fucking kick ass that they are strong and confident enough to do something like that. Separates the pseudo-fans from the real ones.



Now, if Tweet did it for the anti-sex symbol reason (which I claimed was the reason behind Celine Dion's change), then I totally agree with this perspective. Sinead kicked some ass back in the day with her short hair. I still listen to No Man's Woman ...
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Reply #17 posted 06/29/03 11:14am

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SynthiaRose said:

okaypimpn said:

Okay...I'm posting this 1) because I'm terribly upset and 2) I need to get some input on this. Why does it seem as if many female R&B artists that get to a certain point of fame and popularity go and shave their heads? Look at Lauryn Hill, India Arie, and now...my girl Tweet!





I feel you! I didn't know about Tweet. You just made me scream ... because she had beautiful hair that was really hers ... and really complemented her chocolate beauty.

I didn't care when the others cut their hair, but I will miss Tweet's "aura."

I believe some artists think short hair will help them be taken more seriously ... since the long hair tempts others to perceive their visual charms first and other talents second.

Also, some might think it's a reclamation of ethnic culture. I don't agree with the latter. IN college, I thought I was selling out by straigtening my hair, so I stopped. But then my hair was hard to manage and I got braids. But that hair was fake, so there was no cultural or personal respect in wearing fake hair for me. I'm not into false things.

Then in a convo with a friend of mine, the friend said African Americans are a subculture (of African and European) and that some trends were the natural result of the blended exposure, values, etc.

She thought relaxers was a product of that subculture. I though, hey, that's right. I'm not selling out. I'm accepting the blend ... I'm comfortable with the blend ... and I've been straigtening my hair ever since and am now growing my long hair back.

So if Tweet is doing this for ethnic reasons, I hope she rethinks that.

Ciao.


Me, too!
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Reply #18 posted 06/29/03 11:23am

Harlepolis

WHAT? Tweet did sh,,,oh hell naw disbelief

That woman had one of the most beautiful hair, she looked like a Somalian chic with that long str8 beautiful hair! hope Syleean Johnson don't lose her mind and follow the trend.

BTW okaypimpn, can u post a bigger picture cuz I can't really see this one?
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Reply #19 posted 06/29/03 3:48pm

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UptownDeb said:

Don't forget Erika Badu. I'm glad she got rid of those Lee Press on Locks! I never believed she had real locks all up in those head wraps anyway.

Two months ago, I chopped off 7 years-worth of (dread)locks. Not to sound flippant, but my thing is, It's only hair. Besides, it was time for a change. I believe change is good.

Yeah, but gosh: Badu was fine with that baldie. Just made her big ol' eyes that much more beautiful. Mmmph!



Trouble is her baldhead album was crap (except for "Mama's Gun").
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Reply #20 posted 06/29/03 3:50pm

JohnnyTheFox

zzzzz
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Reply #21 posted 06/29/03 3:52pm

UptownDeb

Rhondab said:

and OMG Uptown...you cut your dreads and I'm about to start mine this summer!!


Go for it! Whenever I see a nice head of locks I don't sweat 'em, I admire them and think "Been there, done that." I love my short 'fro. I had one before the locks so it wasn't anything new, and I have absolutely NO regrets! I'd like to cut it close like Erika, or India.arie but I don't know if I can rock that look.
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Reply #22 posted 06/29/03 4:02pm

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UptownDeb said:

Rhondab said:

and OMG Uptown...you cut your dreads and I'm about to start mine this summer!!


Go for it! Whenever I see a nice head of locks I don't sweat 'em, I admire them and think "Been there, done that." I love my short 'fro. I had one before the locks so it wasn't anything new, and I have absolutely NO regrets! I'd like to cut it close like Erika, or India.arie but I don't know if I can rock that look.


Well, I'm been rockin' the "barber cut" for five years now,and ain't no turnin' back. . .(tho I do let it grow out a wee bit ever' now and then and put a lil curl activator in it for a different look. . .)
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Reply #23 posted 06/30/03 5:48am

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Harlepolis said:

WHAT? Tweet did sh,,,oh hell naw disbelief

That woman had one of the most beautiful hair, she looked like a Somalian chic with that long str8 beautiful hair! hope Syleean Johnson don't lose her mind and follow the trend.

BTW okaypimpn, can u post a bigger picture cuz I can't really see this one?


I tried, but the pic was already so small that when I tried to blow it up, it looked distorted.
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Reply #24 posted 06/30/03 6:05am

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While we're on the subject of hair, I just want to add my two cents and get some feedback on this...

I was listening to Graham Central Station's "Hair" the other day and the lyrics were very profound. I never really paid attention to them until recently (probably because I'm considering cutting off my hair that I've been growing for the past 3 years). But anyway, I just find it rather interesting how society seems to judge a book by it's cover. You want to think that we would somehow be over it by now, but the reality is that we all still have our first impressions of people that we don't know.

For instance, I'll be graduating from college in December and realize that in order for me to succeed, I may have to "play the game" and go for a more conservative look. It's a shame I know, but it kind of goes along with the territory being a young, black male. I'm pretty sure that when people look at me they don't think think "there's a college student about to make something of himself", but rather see "a black guy with cornrows" and figures he's probably a thug...let's keep it real here! lol

Anyway, my point in saying all of this is I can respect the decision of Erykah, Tweet, India, Lauryn, or anyone else who cuts their hair...ultimately it's all about what pleases you. I don't necessarily have to agree with it (as we all have our own preferences), but it's just strange how we're thought to think one way and the minute someone goes outside of the norm, they're either outcasted or ridiculed for being different.

Okay...that's enough for now. I've written too damn much! lol
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Reply #25 posted 06/30/03 8:01am

Harlepolis

okaypimpn said:


I was listening to Graham Central Station's "Hair" the other day and the lyrics were very profound. I never really paid attention to them until recently (probably because I'm considering cutting off my hair that I've been growing for the past 3 years). But anyway, I just find it rather interesting how society seems to judge a book by it's cover. You want to think that we would somehow be over it by now, but the reality is that we all still have our first impressions of people that we don't know.


Dude, do you listen 2 yoself? eek I'll be damned and gone str8 2 the motherfucking hell b4 I touch my hair! thats my crown. I even had beef with grandma cuz she tried 2 cut it when I was young. OOoOooOOh WeEeEeehh,,,only the thought of it makes me trip shake

One a side off topic note: I really think that Chaka Khan did that song justice, actualy its the one that introduced me 2 Larry Graham nd his Graham Central Station crew nod most people have [blank] look whenever they hear it, but the reaction is PRICELESS when they "realize" whats the concept behind it. BTW the last intermission part(spoken words) in Chaka's version is my fave part music
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