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Is pop music/culture such a BAD thing? My classmate brought in a Beatles CD (think it was Rubber Soul?). I thought it sounded like the Beatles but I wasn't 100% sure. Another classmate asked: "Who is this?" The Beatles fan must've thought she was from another galaxy. Anyway, my clueless classmate said that she didn't grow up listening to them. I suggested she take Pop Culture 101. The Beatles fan said: "The Beatles are NOT POP CULTURE!" I didn't argue.
Also, in my communication design class the professor always commented whenever we chose a pop cultural reference for our assignments. Gosh, is pop music and culture such a BAD thing? I mean, is it seen as entertainment for the lower classes, or something??? Are people who detest it snobs? | |
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if the beatle aren't pop culture i don't know what is!
pop culture really doesn't have to be a bad thing. some great things came out of pop culture. here's a list: twizzlers slinkies andy warhol prince madonna mtv long form videos (leading to my next one...) michael jackson jelly bracelets there are tons more too!  | |
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Good question, Deb.
I think most things BECOME "popular culture" over time. And from an artistic perspective you almost have to RUN from pop culture in order to stay relevant. You may recall that Prince changed some of his drag (clothes) and style after the big late eighties push to catchup with him (Ready For The World, etc.) Pop culture though is really just another way of saying "mass market." As a marketer, I can tell you that things on their way to being "mass market" usually start in a smaller market. In the case of most music, fashion and entertainment trends, many of these start off in smaller multicultural markets (African American, Latino, Asian, Gay/Lesbian). And as an African American, I can tell you that the challenge I have with "pop" culture, is that by the time it (the trend, the music, etc.) becomes "pop" culture, it seems to MYSTERIOUSLY lose the face and image AND THE CREDIT of and to the individuals that started it... all for the benefit of communicating to the almighty "mass" market. It's funny. But when "black" people are late to an event or function, its called "CP" or Colored People's time, but when another group finally catches up to a "black" trend, its called "pop culture." C | |
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Q:What is pop culture?
A:Popular Culture Were the Beatles popular? Yes. They are part of pop culture. CDHTUNE Said: I can tell you that the challenge I have with "pop" culture, is that by the time it (the trend, the music, etc.) becomes "pop" culture, it seems to MYSTERIOUSLY lose the face and image AND THE CREDIT of and to the individuals that started it... all for the benefit of communicating to the almighty "mass" market. I think this is bang on right here. However I don't really see why you needed to involve race in this issue. Unless, you truly honestly feel that black people are always the only ones responsible for popular culture. CDHTUNE Said: It's funny. But when "black" people are late to an event or function, its called "CP" or Colored People's time, but when another group finally catches up to a "black" trend, its called "pop culture." And if you truly believe this, then your gripe is that it's called pop culture, and not black culture?? 
I dunno, but the other quote you mentioned I definitely agree with. Oh, and just a note,my sister in law is East-Indian, and she's always late for events. It's funny though, because she calls it Indian Time [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 14:36:45 PDT 2003 by savoirfaire] "Knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring faith. If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal" - Carl Sagan | |
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savoirfaire said: CDHTUNE Said: I can tell you that the challenge I have with "pop" culture, is that by the time it (the trend, the music, etc.) becomes "pop" culture, it seems to MYSTERIOUSLY lose the face and image AND THE CREDIT of and to the individuals that started it... all for the benefit of communicating to the almighty "mass" market. I think this is bang on right here. However I don't really see why you needed to involve race in this issue. Unless, you truly honestly feel that black people are always the only ones responsible for popular culture. I'm not involving race, I'm involving minority cultures. Some are identified by race, some are identified by behavior. CDHTUNE Said: It's funny. But when "black" people are late to an event or function, its called "CP" or Colored People's time, but when another group finally catches up to a "black" trend, its called "pop culture." And if you truly believe this, then your gripe is that it's called pop culture, and not black culture??
Uhm, that was joke, not a gripe. I dunno, but the other quote you mentioned I definitely agree with. Oh, and just a note,my sister in law is East-Indian, and she's always late for events. It's funny though, because she calls it Indian Time
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damn, I may be sirnozedevoidofunk, but if us black foks waznt here wont b no such as funk. i will never dance | |
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sirnozedevoidofunk said: damn, I may be sirnozedevoidofunk, but if us black foks waznt here wont b no such as funk.
Funk on, Nose! Dance and swim all you want! C | |
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