independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > The sad thing about Justin Timberlake is...
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 2 of 5 <12345>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #30 posted 06/18/03 11:13am

twink69

avatar

RADIOHEAD???
Justin just say things to sound cool and down with it
How did colplay influnce his music?? he made the albm before he even heard of them
PUH LEASE
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #31 posted 06/18/03 11:15am

purplegypsy

avatar

well he's dating cameron diaz now so you all should just shut your mouths! lol.
Let the rain come down...17 days....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #32 posted 06/18/03 11:25am

ChickenLittle

Janfriend said:

Ok, I went to the Xtina and Justin T concert last night and it was very entertaining, I went to see Xtina and stayed to see Justin. Let me first state that Justin is talented and good at what he does, but...it was fucking Elvis all over again! I don't know what annoyed me more: the white girls trying to dance "black" like they were "down" or the white boy (Justin) on stage beat boxing like it was something new. I mean beat boxing has been around for years and yet I saw a (white) reporter asking him on t.v. "What do you call that?" He obviously didn't give a shit when black people were doing it and when Justin was answering the question, he never said that it was something old. If a black guy came out with the same album with the same songs and sung it just as well he would not be as successful. That pisses me off. I would like to see a black guy or girl just as succesful. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Jon B. and Thicke, but I would like to see these white cats acknowledge that they didn't start r&b and I would like to see these white consumers buy music by black artists as well instead of these white chocolate artists...why am I pissed?

p.s. Why the fuck do people leave a concert before the encore? what is that all about? stupidity?


Well, it's no different than the young kids who swear that Eminem is the greatest rapper EVER.
cowboy
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #33 posted 06/18/03 11:40am

Janfriend

chemmie said:

Janfriend said:

SpcMs said:

Janfriend said:

OMG, thanks for your replies, but what I was trying to address is racism in the music industry. I was trying to address that "white" consumers would not buy the music Justin has recorded or go to his concert if he were black, even though it's the same exact music black artists have been making for years

I went to see Xtina, who I don't consider white, just like I don't consider someone who is half black and half white as white (someone made an issue of me buying a ticket)

i'll give u the benefit of the doubt, but u sound a bit off here and at least as preoccupied with race as the people u'r complaining about.


I'm not preoccupied with race. This was a just an observation. Race issues exist. Not talking about doesn't make it go away


This isnt a racial issue and it seems like you are reaching to make it a racial issue. Free your mind from color and stereotypes. Stop looking for somewhere to play a race card.
Justin's music is nothing like the "same exact music black artists have been making for years". You need to look at the audience also. Justin's music caters to young, white females. To this audience, what he is doing is "cool". They have no clue about Beat Street or The Fat Boys or any of that. For the same reason they have no idea about David Bowie, The Rolling Stones or Marvin Gaye. They are in a different time. Race or racism has nothing to do with it.

There are blacks like B2K, half of the American Idol crowd, Lil Romeo and Lil Bow Wow who have had near the same amount of success with the exact same crowd. Whites buy this music without any discrimination and I'm sure there isnt a single 14 year old female that bought the Timberlake album because he was white or the B2K album because they are black.


B2K and the other people you mentioned do not have the same success as Justin and they never will and the music is the same. If you knew your r&b history, you woknow that

No one is playing the race card here. It's a simple fact
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #34 posted 06/18/03 11:44am

Janfriend

SpcMs said:

Janfriend said:

SpcMs said:

Janfriend said:

OMG, thanks for your replies, but what I was trying to address is racism in the music industry. I was trying to address that "white" consumers would not buy the music Justin has recorded or go to his concert if he were black, even though it's the same exact music black artists have been making for years

I went to see Xtina, who I don't consider white, just like I don't consider someone who is half black and half white as white (someone made an issue of me buying a ticket)

i'll give u the benefit of the doubt, but u sound a bit off here and at least as preoccupied with race as the people u'r complaining about.


I'm not preoccupied with race. This was a just an observation. Race issues exist. Not talking about doesn't make it go away

If a member of one of the most popular pop boyzzz band in the world comes out with a more r'nb-oriented record, u call that a race issue? Or when a part of the boyz band's (teen) audience buys tickets for the solo concert of the lead singer, it is a race issue to u? And u'r 'striking example' is that JT beatboxes at his concerts??? Puh-leez


beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #35 posted 06/18/03 12:11pm

chemmie

avatar

beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.

B2K and the other people you mentioned do not have the same success as Justin and they never will and the music is the same. If you knew your r&b history, you woknow that

No one is playing the race card here. It's a simple fact

Of course they dont. N'Sync has been the most popular group of the past 15 years. Nobody compares to them. Justin was the primary member of N'Sync. Nobody touches him. Regardless of race, color, creed, sex or whatever. But, B2K and others are still very popular with the same crowd.

My point is. The crowd that likes Justin Timberlake doesnt care about his race. They like Justin Timberlake because he is cute, cool and has great pop songs for them to like. They like B2K, Ruben, Lil Bow Wow and Justin Carter for the same reasons.
They are ignorant to the roots. They dont know that if it wasnt for Doug E Fresh and The Fat Boys that Justin Timberlake couldnt be doing the beat box. They dont know that Marylin Manson wouldnt exist if it wasnt for David Bowie or Alice Cooper. They dont know that The Roots wouldnt be funky if it wasnt for Prince. They dont know Eminem couldnt rap if it wasnt for Run DMC, LL Cool J and Big Daddy Kane. They dont know anything about that. They know that they like Justin Timberlake. Not "whitey" Justin Timberlake. Just Justin Timberlake.

Look at Motown for instance. One of the greatest record companies of the past 50 years. Primarilly all black artists and a very large white fanbase. There arent many people out there who take race into play when considering what music they like. They like music for their personal tastes, not their race. There is no reason to try to make an issue of it.
"I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
"Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" is giving them enough power to destroy all justice, all freedom, and all human dignity." - Thomas Sowell
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #36 posted 06/18/03 12:41pm

purplegypsy

avatar

chemmie said:

beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.

B2K and the other people you mentioned do not have the same success as Justin and they never will and the music is the same. If you knew your r&b history, you woknow that

No one is playing the race card here. It's a simple fact

Of course they dont. N'Sync has been the most popular group of the past 15 years. Nobody compares to them. Justin was the primary member of N'Sync. Nobody touches him. Regardless of race, color, creed, sex or whatever. But, B2K and others are still very popular with the same crowd.

My point is. The crowd that likes Justin Timberlake doesnt care about his race. They like Justin Timberlake because he is cute, cool and has great pop songs for them to like. They like B2K, Ruben, Lil Bow Wow and Justin Carter for the same reasons.
They are ignorant to the roots. They dont know that if it wasnt for Doug E Fresh and The Fat Boys that Justin Timberlake couldnt be doing the beat box. They dont know that Marylin Manson wouldnt exist if it wasnt for David Bowie or Alice Cooper. They dont know that The Roots wouldnt be funky if it wasnt for Prince. They dont know Eminem couldnt rap if it wasnt for Run DMC, LL Cool J and Big Daddy Kane. They dont know anything about that. They know that they like Justin Timberlake. Not "whitey" Justin Timberlake. Just Justin Timberlake.

Look at Motown for instance. One of the greatest record companies of the past 50 years. Primarilly all black artists and a very large white fanbase. There arent many people out there who take race into play when considering what music they like. They like music for their personal tastes, not their race. There is no reason to try to make an issue of it.


Look how much time and energy you guys are wasting on Justin T!! If you are going to write up this much stuff, at least make it worthwhile and trash Mariah or something!! GEESH!
Let the rain come down...17 days....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #37 posted 06/18/03 1:11pm

noepie

avatar

the sad thing about janfriend is that he goes to a justin/christina concert.
WHAT IF THERE IS NO TOMORROW? THERE WASN'T ONE TODAY!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #38 posted 06/18/03 2:49pm

gman1966

avatar

purplegypsy said:[quote]chemmie said:[quote]
beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.


Exactly, and as a black man I can safely say that Justin Timberlake has no appeal in our community. Just another white boy trying to act and sing black but I have to say he does have rhythm!!!
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #39 posted 06/18/03 2:54pm

monkeypox

There is nothing sad about Justin. His music is not that good. But he is so hot!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #40 posted 06/18/03 4:09pm

stymie

gman1966 said:[quote]purplegypsy said:[quote]

chemmie said:

beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.


Exactly, and as a black man I can safely say that Justin Timberlake has no appeal in our community. Just another white boy trying to act and sing black but I have to say he does have rhythm!!!
Hate to disagree with ya, but I know plenty of "black" people who dig Justin and N'Sync as well. My cousin played "This I Promise You" at her wedding last year. WGCI, a primarily "black" radio station here in Chicago, bumps Justin and when N'Sync came out with "Gone" a while back, it hit the top of the R&B charts as well as the pop charts. Music is music to me. It doesn't have a color. The only problem I have with Justin beatboxing is that he isn't good at it.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #41 posted 06/18/03 4:11pm

Janfriend

noepie said:

the sad thing about janfriend is that he goes to a justin/christina concert.


1. I'm a girl

2. I went to see Christina, who can sang her ass off. She's way better than that Alicia chick everyone keeps bowing down to. How is that sad?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #42 posted 06/18/03 7:10pm

Joshy

avatar

minneapolisgenius said:

Janfriend said:

I don't know what annoyed me more: the white girls trying to dance "black" like they were "down" or the white boy (Justin) on stage beat boxing like it was something new.

Hey, I'm not black, but I'm a damn good at dancing "black" as you say.

i frequent rnb/hip hop joints every saturday night & dance my ass off.

am i wrong 4 that?
if so...2 fuckin badd!


...& also...justin has always acknowledged the black artists who have inspired him like MJ,Stevie & others...
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 19:29:09 PDT 2003 by Joshy]
www.riotcitywrestling.com
***************************************************************************************

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Prince,Flava Flav,Seal, 3 hour aftershow party,nuff said!" (13/5/12 - Sydney Austra
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #43 posted 06/18/03 7:15pm

Joshy

avatar

twink69 said:

RADIOHEAD???
Justin just say things to sound cool and down with it
How did colplay influnce his music?? he made the albm before he even heard of them
PUH LEASE

err,i am influenced by Bon Jovi & Meat Loaf & Alice Cooper but does that mean my music will sound just like theirs?

NUP!

get real dude...r u trying 2 sound with the in-crowd on this thread with any Timberlake-haters.?

puh lease!
www.riotcitywrestling.com
***************************************************************************************

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Prince,Flava Flav,Seal, 3 hour aftershow party,nuff said!" (13/5/12 - Sydney Austra
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #44 posted 06/18/03 7:22pm

Joshy

avatar

Janfriend said:

chemmie said:

Janfriend said:

SpcMs said:

Janfriend said:

OMG, thanks for your replies, but what I was trying to address is racism in the music industry. I was trying to address that "white" consumers would not buy the music Justin has recorded or go to his concert if he were black, even though it's the same exact music black artists have been making for years

I went to see Xtina, who I don't consider white, just like I don't consider someone who is half black and half white as white (someone made an issue of me buying a ticket)

i'll give u the benefit of the doubt, but u sound a bit off here and at least as preoccupied with race as the people u'r complaining about.


I'm not preoccupied with race. This was a just an observation. Race issues exist. Not talking about doesn't make it go away


This isnt a racial issue and it seems like you are reaching to make it a racial issue. Free your mind from color and stereotypes. Stop looking for somewhere to play a race card.
Justin's music is nothing like the "same exact music black artists have been making for years". You need to look at the audience also. Justin's music caters to young, white females. To this audience, what he is doing is "cool". They have no clue about Beat Street or The Fat Boys or any of that. For the same reason they have no idea about David Bowie, The Rolling Stones or Marvin Gaye. They are in a different time. Race or racism has nothing to do with it.

There are blacks like B2K, half of the American Idol crowd, Lil Romeo and Lil Bow Wow who have had near the same amount of success with the exact same crowd. Whites buy this music without any discrimination and I'm sure there isnt a single 14 year old female that bought the Timberlake album because he was white or the B2K album because they are black.


B2K and the other people you mentioned do not have the same success as Justin and they never will

yes but this is bcoz B2K suck.

sure BumpBumpBump is a jam,but Diddy is a pertty good producer i have heard.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 19:23:20 PDT 2003 by Joshy]
www.riotcitywrestling.com
***************************************************************************************

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Prince,Flava Flav,Seal, 3 hour aftershow party,nuff said!" (13/5/12 - Sydney Austra
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #45 posted 06/18/03 7:26pm

Joshy

avatar

Janfriend said:

Ok, I went to the Xtina and Justin T concert last night and it was very entertaining, I went to see Xtina and stayed to see Justin. Let me first state that Justin is talented and good at what he does, but...it was fucking Elvis all over again! I don't know what annoyed me more: the white girls trying to dance "black" like they were "down" or the white boy (Justin) on stage beat boxing like it was something new. I mean beat boxing has been around for years and yet I saw a (white) reporter asking him on t.v. "What do you call that?" He obviously didn't give a shit when black people were doing it and when Justin was answering the question, he never said that it was something old. If a black guy came out with the same album with the same songs and sung it just as well he would not be as successful. That pisses me off. I would like to see a black guy or girl just as succesful. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Jon B. and Thicke, but I would like to see these white cats acknowledge that they didn't start r&b and I would like to see these white consumers buy music by black artists as well instead of these white chocolate artists...why am I pissed?

Janfriend said:

I'm not preoccupied with race.


not much!







evillol


i dont give a care about race.

let's just all rock'n'roll!
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 19:28:08 PDT 2003 by Joshy]
www.riotcitywrestling.com
***************************************************************************************

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Prince,Flava Flav,Seal, 3 hour aftershow party,nuff said!" (13/5/12 - Sydney Austra
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #46 posted 06/18/03 8:03pm

Janfriend

purplegypsy said:[quote]

chemmie said:

beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.



Excuse me but if white people are only getting into a certain type of music solely because they see one of their own doing it, that's racist...and I know plenty of black people who like Justin
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #47 posted 06/18/03 8:06pm

purplegypsy

avatar

Janfriend said:[quote]

purplegypsy said:

chemmie said:

beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.



Excuse me but if white people are only getting into a certain type of music solely because they see one of their own doing it, that's racist...and I know plenty of black people who like Justin


um...why is my name up here? i never said ANY of the above! I simply said everyone should shut up and let justin shake his HOT MOFO ASS and let's go back to bashing Mariah!!!
Let the rain come down...17 days....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #48 posted 06/18/03 8:13pm

PurpleJedi

avatar

jthad1129 said:

sorry, but the 15 year old girls buying Justin tickets, think the beat box is cool. They were not around when Whodini was doing it, or the Fat Boys, or Doug E. Fresh or Kurtis Blow. Give the cat a break.

I would rather he get the ticket sales than Eminem, the hateful prick. At least Justin is a nice guy.



Amen.

People need to get over this stupid "race" crap.
15 year-old white girls are gonna swoon over Justin whether he's beat-boxing or doing the Lambada. Period.
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #49 posted 06/18/03 8:18pm

Janfriend

purplegypsy said:[quote]

Janfriend said:

purplegypsy said:

chemmie said:

beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.



Excuse me but if white people are only getting into a certain type of music solely because they see one of their own doing it, that's racist...and I know plenty of black people who like Justin


um...why is my name up here? i never said ANY of the above! I simply said everyone should shut up and let justin shake his HOT MOFO ASS and let's go back to bashing Mariah!!!


Oh, sorry. I deleted your part
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #50 posted 06/18/03 8:29pm

gman1966

avatar

stymie said:[quote]gman1966 said:[quote]

purplegypsy said:

chemmie said:

beat boxing was not used as an example. It was an observation that these same girls wouldn't be going crazy over it if it was someone like Doug E Fresh doing it and it's because he's white. That's a fact. The same way these white kids love Eminem. Because he's white and they can relate to him. I know old ass white people who went to go see 8 mile just because it was about a white boy. They didn't shit about hip-hop

Race may have something to do with it but racism does not. Timberlake is an attractive young, white male who attracts young white females. If you want to bring racism into it, why dont more black people like Justin Timberlake? Because they dont like white boys? Of course not. It is because it doesnt appeal to them. Because the appeal is for young, white females.


Exactly, and as a black man I can safely say that Justin Timberlake has no appeal in our community. Just another white boy trying to act and sing black but I have to say he does have rhythm!!!
Hate to disagree with ya, but I know plenty of "black" people who dig Justin and N'Sync as well. My cousin played "This I Promise You" at her wedding last year. WGCI, a primarily "black" radio station here in Chicago, bumps Justin and when N'Sync came out with "Gone" a while back, it hit the top of the R&B charts as well as the pop charts. Music is music to me. It doesn't have a color. The only problem I have with Justin beatboxing is that he isn't good at it.



That's cool but for some reason I always found it annoying when I see artist's like this Justin guy try so hard to emulate black artists. A white Michael Jackson wannabe!!!
Kind of like when I pull up next to white kids from the surburbans bumping hard-core rap just brings a chuckle to me...
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #51 posted 06/18/03 8:31pm

paisleypark4

avatar

Janfriend said:

chemmie said:

Janfriend said:

SpcMs said:

Janfriend said:

OMG, thanks for your replies, but what I was trying to address is racism in the music industry. I was trying to address that "white" consumers would not buy the music Justin has recorded or go to his concert if he were black, even though it's the same exact music black artists have been making for years

I went to see Xtina, who I don't consider white, just like I don't consider someone who is half black and half white as white (someone made an issue of me buying a ticket)

i'll give u the benefit of the doubt, but u sound a bit off here and at least as preoccupied with race as the people u'r complaining about.


I'm not preoccupied with race. This was a just an observation. Race issues exist. Not talking about doesn't make it go away


This isnt a racial issue and it seems like you are reaching to make it a racial issue. Free your mind from color and stereotypes. Stop looking for somewhere to play a race card.
Justin's music is nothing like the "same exact music black artists have been making for years". You need to look at the audience also. Justin's music caters to young, white females. To this audience, what he is doing is "cool". They have no clue about Beat Street or The Fat Boys or any of that. For the same reason they have no idea about David Bowie, The Rolling Stones or Marvin Gaye. They are in a different time. Race or racism has nothing to do with it.

There are blacks like B2K, half of the American Idol crowd, Lil Romeo and Lil Bow Wow who have had near the same amount of success with the exact same crowd. Whites buy this music without any discrimination and I'm sure there isnt a single 14 year old female that bought the Timberlake album because he was white or the B2K album because they are black.


B2K and the other people you mentioned do not have the same success as Justin and they never will and the music is the same. If you knew your r&b history, you woknow that

No one is playing the race card here. It's a simple fact




yes it is a fact. When i made a post about it people said: "Oh ur being racist!"
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #52 posted 06/18/03 8:54pm

ControltheP

Janfriend said:

RaspberryWoman said:

How does one dance if they are white??? Maybe I am doing it wrong. confuse


well, back in the day there used to be a big difference between how blacks and whites danced


lol, that's so true!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #53 posted 06/18/03 9:05pm

ControltheP

Ellie said:

When did I say Mariah was white? Just saying that Justin isn't the nice down to earth guy he likes to think he is. He seems OBSESSED with credibility. I'm a white girl and I found it distasteful for him to site Coldplay and Radiohead as major influences on him, without even uttering the name of the black folks who are obviously the peeps he's jacking off. THIS was in the UK though. He chips and changes these things in interviews depending on where he is and how he/his management thinks the comments are going to be taken. He'd not dare say such a thing in the US because people would be jumping on his back about it.


I think this is a point Janfriend is trying to make. He's just trying to make money off of black music (yes, that's what rythm & blues is). There's nothing wrong with him liking it. Back in the day it wasn't cool to like black music, now all of of sudden it's the thing to listen to it, to buy the clothes, to get the hair did (i.e. white girls with braids is very unattractive and inappropriate) until it becomes assimilated as "American"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #54 posted 06/18/03 9:18pm

Joshy

avatar

ControltheP said:

Ellie said:

When did I say Mariah was white? Just saying that Justin isn't the nice down to earth guy he likes to think he is. He seems OBSESSED with credibility. I'm a white girl and I found it distasteful for him to site Coldplay and Radiohead as major influences on him, without even uttering the name of the black folks who are obviously the peeps he's jacking off. THIS was in the UK though. He chips and changes these things in interviews depending on where he is and how he/his management thinks the comments are going to be taken. He'd not dare say such a thing in the US because people would be jumping on his back about it.


I think this is a point Janfriend is trying to make. He's just trying to make money off of black music (yes, that's what rythm & blues is). There's nothing wrong with him liking it. Back in the day it wasn't cool to like black music, now all of of sudden it's the thing to listen to it, to buy the clothes, to get the hair did (i.e. white girls with braids is very unattractive and inappropriate) until it becomes assimilated as "American"

wait til i do soul & funk stuff with my band...
damn i wont b liked much around these parts


rolleyes

& i wear baggy karl kani jeans & Players University shirts...
not cuz its the in-thing..... cuz its comfy,& i like the clothes.....
not cuz of a 'craze'.

if i was like that i wouldnt like prince cuz no1 else likes him.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 21:23:55 PDT 2003 by Joshy]
www.riotcitywrestling.com
***************************************************************************************

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Prince,Flava Flav,Seal, 3 hour aftershow party,nuff said!" (13/5/12 - Sydney Austra
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #55 posted 06/18/03 10:49pm

Ellie

avatar

As long as when asked, every time you give credit where credit is due, instead of saying Frank Sinatra and Chris Martin are your favourite singers before playing down and dismissing the REAL influences lol You Americans haven't seen this but I'm telling you, he does it. And boy do I know since the UK seems to be his most successful market in the world right now, and he spends every waking minute of the day on live Saturday morning TV and all the pop music shows whenever he has a spare second to fly out.

The boy is completely overexposed here. I know of people who like him who are sick of seeing him on TV every single day.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #56 posted 06/18/03 11:26pm

paisleypark4

avatar

ControltheP said:

Janfriend said:

RaspberryWoman said:

How does one dance if they are white??? Maybe I am doing it wrong. confuse


well, back in the day there used to be a big difference between how blacks and whites danced


lol, that's so true!



its still true till this day. I dont understand why white people dont got no rhythm...i just dont understand...

I was at the Saloon (a gay bar in Mpls) and this guy in front of me was dancin, damn almost tripping over his own feet..look like he was handicapped or sumthin...I was like...damn...i feel sorri 4 u man...
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #57 posted 06/19/03 3:06am

chemmie

avatar

ControltheP said:

Ellie said:

When did I say Mariah was white? Just saying that Justin isn't the nice down to earth guy he likes to think he is. He seems OBSESSED with credibility. I'm a white girl and I found it distasteful for him to site Coldplay and Radiohead as major influences on him, without even uttering the name of the black folks who are obviously the peeps he's jacking off. THIS was in the UK though. He chips and changes these things in interviews depending on where he is and how he/his management thinks the comments are going to be taken. He'd not dare say such a thing in the US because people would be jumping on his back about it.


I think this is a point Janfriend is trying to make. He's just trying to make money off of black music (yes, that's what rythm & blues is). There's nothing wrong with him liking it. Back in the day it wasn't cool to like black music, now all of of sudden it's the thing to listen to it, to buy the clothes, to get the hair did (i.e. white girls with braids is very unattractive and inappropriate) until it becomes assimilated as "American"


But is there something wrong with it becoming "American"?? That's what all of it is. Marvin Gaye and Al Green didnt make great music in Africa did they? We are all American here. Why does a barrier need to be put up in music of all places? It is all a form of self-inflicted segregation on the part of the black community. So-called "black" music is more popular and has a larger influence than ever before now. You should be proud that a white "artist" is emulating. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

My point is, this isnt an issue of black and white. The only people here that are making it a black and white issue are blacks. There is no reason for any of it. There is nothing racist about a 14 year old girl (core audience, there are exceptions.. i know!) liking Justin Timberlake and not knowing who Doug E Fresh is. Your rational is wrong. It would be like me saying "black people dont like Metallica because they are racist". That isnt correct. A majority of black people dont like Metallica because it does not appeal to them. It is a preference. Yes, race plays a part in many people's preferences, but racism does not.
[This message was edited Thu Jun 19 3:09:15 PDT 2003 by chemmie]
"I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
"Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" is giving them enough power to destroy all justice, all freedom, and all human dignity." - Thomas Sowell
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #58 posted 06/19/03 3:18am

chemmie

avatar

That's cool but for some reason I always found it annoying when I see artist's like this Justin guy try so hard to emulate black artists. A white Michael Jackson wannabe!!!
Kind of like when I pull up next to white kids from the surburbans bumping hard-core rap just brings a chuckle to me...


And THAT is racism my friends. What does the color of your skin have to do with the music you like or should listen to? Nothing at all.

I am the whitest of the white. I live in a very rural, country suburb. Country music star Travis Tritt lives right down the road from me and the people here love it. But, I know more about hip hop than 3/4 of the black people i have met. Does that matter? No. Just proving a point that it doesnt matter where you come from, your skin color, or whatever. It matters that you are into a certain style of music. A race cant claim a style of music or a style of dress or hairstyle or whatever to be their own! This is America. A melting pot of ideas. "Black" styles of dress, music, hair and everything else have been incorporated into mainstream America! That is great!! Be proud. Be proud that barriers are being broken every time a white kid plays a Jay Z record. It wasnt too long ago that white people wouldnt listen to "black" music because they were racist. Times have changed and society has changed and now it is more popular than ever.
"I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
"Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" is giving them enough power to destroy all justice, all freedom, and all human dignity." - Thomas Sowell
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #59 posted 06/19/03 6:55am

gman1966

avatar

chemmie said:

That's cool but for some reason I always found it annoying when I see artist's like this Justin guy try so hard to emulate black artists. A white Michael Jackson wannabe!!!
Kind of like when I pull up next to white kids from the surburbans bumping hard-core rap just brings a chuckle to me...


And THAT is racism my friends. What does the color of your skin have to do with the music you like or should listen to? Nothing at all.

I am the whitest of the white. I live in a very rural, country suburb. Country music star Travis Tritt lives right down the road from me and the people here love it. But, I know more about hip hop than 3/4 of the black people i have met. Does that matter? No. Just proving a point that it doesnt matter where you come from, your skin color, or whatever. It matters that you are into a certain style of music. A race cant claim a style of music or a style of dress or hairstyle or whatever to be their own! This is America. A melting pot of ideas. "Black" styles of dress, music, hair and everything else have been incorporated into mainstream America! That is great!! Be proud. Be proud that barriers are being broken every time a white kid plays a Jay Z record. It wasnt too long ago that white people wouldnt listen to "black" music because they were racist. Times have changed and society has changed and now it is more popular than ever.


"That's racism" typical response from white people."Color should not matter" Whatever... You may like hiphop and that is great and it is also great that Hip Hop has crossed all of the boundaries that it has but you and the other people on this board will never know what some of these Bruthas are truly talking about because you DO NOT KNOW my culture you never experience it you never will. True rappers like Chuck D and Tupac are rapping about what it is to be a BLACK MAN and experience life in America as a BLACK MAN. Just because you can qoute the lyrics from a Jay Z record means nothing.
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 2 of 5 <12345>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > The sad thing about Justin Timberlake is...