I've recently heard Micheal Jackson claim that he writes 100 songs for every album and then chooses the best ones.

Is this true? Surely there must be outtakes circulating. I'm not a big fan, so may have missed them.

If it is true, do MJ fans feel the same way as Prince fans do. ie why doesn't he release this one and that?

Here's a brief list of the known ones. The writers and years are not completely accurate:



Sunset Driver (1978) (Rod Temperton/M. Jackson)
Goin' To Rio (1978) (Michael Jackson, C. Bayer-Sager)
Thank You For Life (1979) (Michael Jackson)
Starlight (1982) (Rod Temperton)
Carousel (1982) (Michael Sembello, D. Freeman)
Got The Hots (1982) (Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones)
What Lonely Way To Go (1980) (Michael Jackson)
Al Capone (1982) (Michael Jackson, Rod Temperton)
Hot Street (1984) (Michael Jackson)
Nite Line (1985) (Michael Jackson)
Trouble (1985) (Michael Jackson)
Buffalo Bill (1985) (Michael Jackson)
Bumper Snippet (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Bottrell)
Streetwalker (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Bottrell)
The Prince Of Fame (1986) (Michael Jackson)
Fly Away (1987) (Michael Jackson)
Tomboy (1987) (Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones)
Monkey Business (1989) (Michael Jackson)
Work That Body (1989) (Michael Jackson, Bill Bottrell)
If You Don't Love Me (1989) (M.Jackson, T.Riley, B. Bell)
Bottle Of Smoke (1989) (Michael Jackson)
For All Time (1990) (Michael Jackson)
Serious Effect (1990) (Michael Jackson feat. Rap by LL CoolJ)
She Got It (1990) (Michael Jackson, Bill Bottrell, Teddy Riley)
Men In Black (1990) (Michael Jackson, Teddy Riley,)
Fear (1993) (Michael Jackson)
Basszouille (1994) (Michael Jackson, Bruce Swedien)
Faces/Pretty Faces (1994) (Michael Jackson)
What More Can I Give? Demo(1997) (Jackson, Pavarotti)
Secret Passage (1998) (Michael Jackson)
Vibrationist (1998) (Michael Jackson, Teddy Riley)
The Sky Is The Limit (1998) (Michael Jackson)
Children's Holiday (1998) (Michael Jackson)
Tubeway (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Triple Threat Cable (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Easy (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Belong 2 (1999) (Michael Jackson, Teddy Riley)
Stop The War (1999) (M.Jackson, C. Bayer-Sager)
Angel (1999) (Babyface, M. Jackson)
A Baby Smiles (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Bad Girl (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Neverland Landing (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Make A Wish (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Lonely Man (1999) (Michael Jackson)
Edgar Allan Poe (2000) (Michael Jackson, Walter Afanasieff)
Fall Again (2000) (Walter Afanasieff, Robin Thicke)
Do You Want Me? (2000) (Sisqo, Dru Hill)
The Gloved One (2000) (Sisqo)
Seeing Voices (2000) (Sidney Fine, Ray Charles Choir)
This Is Our Time (2000) (M. Jackson, D. Foster, L. Hill)
She Was Lovin' Me (2000) (C. Rooney, M. Jackson)
On My Anger (2000) (M. Jackson, T. Riley feat. Blackstreet)
Kick It (2000) (M. Jackson, R. Jerkins, F. Jerkins, L.S. Daniels, N.Gregg)
Far Far Away (2000) (M. Jackson, C. Bayer-Sager, D. Foster)
Free (2000) (Carole Bayer-Sager)
All My Children (2000) (Michael Jackson, T. Riley, R. C.-Stites)
Can You Feel Me? (2000) (Michael Jackson, T. Riley, Tyrese)
Do You Love Me? (2000) (Babyface)
Creep In' (2000) (Michael Jackson)
What's A Guy Gotta Do? (2000) (Pharell Williams)
House Of Style (2001) (M.Jackson, T.Riley, Tyrese, A.Harris)
Cheater (2001) (M.Jackson, F. Jerkins, R.Jerkins, FATS)
Chicago 1945 (2001) (M.Jackson, R.Jerkins, F.Jerkins, N.Gregg)
I Don't Live Anymore (2001) (M.Jackson)
Maybe We Can Do It (2001) (M. Jackson, P.Diddy, R. Jerkins)
Get Around (2001) (R.Jerkins, F. Jerkins, L.S. Daniels, M.Jackson)
You're A Liar, Brother (2001) (Michael Jackson)
In The Valley (2001) (Michael Jackson, Tyrese)
Lucy Is In Love With Linus (2001) (Michael Jackson)
California Grass (2001) (Michael Jackson)
Crack Kills (2001) (Michael Jackson)
New Attitudes (2001) (Michael Jackson)
That Kind Of Lover (2001) (A1, Ray Ruffin)
Soldier's Entrance (2001) (Michael Jackson)
Make Or Break (2001) (M. Jackson, Teddy Riley)
Ekam Satyam - The One Truth (2001) (M.Jackson, A.R. Rahman)
What More Can I Give? (2001) (Michael Jackson)
I Have This Dream (2002) (Ric Kipp, C. Bayer-Sager,D.Foster)
[This message was edited Sun Jun 8 4:21:15 PDT 2003 by Ellie]

Have U heard these Ellie?
R there any masterpieces in there?
I´d love 2 hear those Off the wall &
Thriller period outtakes.
/peace Manki

I've only heard these:


Carousel (1982)
Hot Street (1984)
Nite Line (1985)
Trouble (1985)
Streetwalker (1986)
Fly Away (1987)
Monkey Business (1989)
If You Don't Love Me (1989)
For All Time (1990)
Serious Effect (1990)
What More Can I Give? (1997)


We all know Streetwalker and Fly Away from the 'Bad' Special Edition. Most of them can be found here: http://www.jacksondailyne.../media.htm

I personally think that 'If You Don't Love Me' is one of the worst MJ songs ever put on tape

Ellie said:

interesting.I absolutely love it! Monkey Business is a gem too.

Ellie said:

thank u SO MUCH Ellie.
i havent heard many MJ outtakes.
only one is What More Can I Give.

i never knew he did a track with LL OR JaRule & Ashanti OR Freddie!

im getting the LL one now & very xcited

Oh, the Get Out of My Mind is a fake. That website is still claiming it's geniune. It's not Michael, Ja Rule OR Ashanti - well that's the general consciousness right now. It's some French dude doing an MJ impersonation.
[This message was edited Sun Jun 8 6:26:54 PDT 2003 by Ellie]

Joshy said:

Not a big fan of that myself. There's no melody

Ellie said:

ok cool thanx

Ellie said:

yeah just i am an LL fan.
& a bit of a newjackswing vibe there...

i like it

Ellie said:

He's very good though.

Micheal Jackson Outtakes his nose and his (black) skin

jn2 said:

you thought of that yourself?

and it's spelt M.I.C.H.A.E.L. Hope that helps.

jn2 said:

ur a closet Mj fan rn't u?





i wonder if that's Bubbles on 'Monkey Business'



thank u again Ellie.
u rock girl!

You're welcome

Marrk said:

Micheal Jackson Outtakes??? : it's the title's thread

jn2 said:

that makes you even more daft than i thought!

another mj outtake: "baby nose"

jn2 said:

ur funnie

im sorry...

i had funnie confused with lame.

























mybad

Ellie said:

L.Hill as in "Lauryn Hill"?? Damn I wanna hear this, I was excited 2 hear L-Boogie's track in the Invincible LP but sadly it got shelved.

BTW, the page doesn't work:

404 - page not found ((

Harlepolis said:

Page works for me

Yep, it's Lauryn Hill. There was a Lenny Kravitz collaboration in 2001 too.

Ellie said:

It works now!

Anyway, who produces "Shout" and does Lenny Kravits appear in it??

I still don't know why people dislike "If You Don't Love Me?" it has the rock-motown sound in it. Very intresting!

If You Don't Love Me sounds like a bad song that may have been sung on The Commitments soundtrack. It doesn't suit MJ and it's repetitve IMO.

LK isn't on Shout, but I SWEAR Janet is the female voice talking simultaneously in the background with MJ for the last verse. Teddy Riley produced it.

I found a demo of a song called Suprise Song.

It's just MJ and a piano with an upbeat beat. Very melodic and he's singing with his brothers...

Very cool, it's a happy song, you can hear MJ do his "Hee heee!" and they are clapping a clever clap and stuff.

Goes something like this...

"This is your suprise song, we have no words to sing...so everybody listen to the groove and c'mon do you best..."

I can't make out the rest of the line, but it's in mono and may have been recorded on a demo tape.

It also has Randy singing a bit for the second verse. They laugh and have a great time singing it.

Anyone ever heard it?

I also have just a few seconds of the Thriller demo with a more rough beat. The Linn LM-1 drum machine is used and they're is rougher bass synth part, but I'm not sure if it really is an original since I don't have the MJ singing part.

I love outtakes, alternates and demos, gives you a sense of the artistic descisions made and also how a song grew from a rough idea to a work of art.

The "Surprise Song" was a vinyl disc given to fanclub members in 1983 I think. On one side is the improvised song, the other is all the brothers talking and laughing in the studio together, announcing the Victory tour and talking about Motown 25 which they had just done but it hadn't gone out on TV yet.

It should be streaming on Real Audio here: http://jetziwdsmenu1.cjb.net
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Ellie said:

All I see are interviews.

And DAMN Ellie, how the hell could you put you hands on some rare shit like that? Whats yo secret girl?

Lots of wasted time surfing the internet over the last 5 years. I have a CD quality version of the Surprise Song, but the link I got that from is dead now. Can't find a decent quality version of the studio chat.

The link for it on that page there is "Encino Message / Song WIth No Name"
[This message was edited Sun Jun 8 12:56:56 PDT 2003 by Ellie]

Ellie said:

Yeah lol all I have to do is wait! I thought it was just an interview. They played a piano snippist of "Shake Your Body Down". I'm hearing "The Suprice Song" right now as I'm typing this, very joyful song,,,he kinda sounds like Donell Jones in this song. Its really supricing how they make beautiful music even they're fooling around.

I love it,,,thanx