I love Macy, but this cd just doesn't do it for me as a follow-up to The Id. She expanded so much on that LP and now she sounds like shes regressing back to the format of On How Life Is. Trouble has it's moments but this one has my love affair with Macy on the fence. Any opinions on this LP?

yo grease..wassup man..long time

I haven't heard the album yet...ain't it worth downloading?

u still going to mpls...i hear...???

Yeah I said my piece on the other Macy threads, she's no longer on my "Must buy" list anyway. Let's hope she has some fresh ideas because right now she's repeating themes like Eminem...

undisputed69 said:

Personally, I should have downloaded it before I bought it.

i'm a little bit of a fanatic when it comes to macy i guess, but i just got the cd this past week and i like it a lot...

granted it doesn't stray from the macy gray formula too much at all (if at all)..and i guess there are no 'hits' on it...but some of the tracks ('she don't write songs about you', Jesus for a day' and 'my fondest childhood memories' come to mind first..) are great to me...

the album is fairly short in length which keeps it from getting too muddled or boring i think...(i am of the opinion that people shouldn't necessarily put 20 songs on an album just because they can..and a lot of good albums could be great albums if they were just edited down to about 10 or 11 songs...)

actually i liked the lead off single a lot as well ('when i see you') but i only saw the video for that once on vh-1 and never heard it on the radio or anything...

apparently the next single is 'she ain't right for you' which i don't really expect to make much of an impact either...seems whoever chooses macy's singles for the most part has attempted to pick another 'i try..' just as they did with 'sweet baby' from 'the id..'

right now i'm really digging it...after the new wears off it may be a different story...again i'm admittedly not very objective when it comes to macy, but as of now i actually like this one better than 'the id...'

that is subject to change of course, but for now that's my opinion...

I'm still gonna try it out...

CalhounSq said:

Sure, it's enjoyable enough for fans, just lacking any new inspiration or fresh ideas. Maybe download a few tracks first though or at least don't pay over the odds.

macy

CalhounSq said:

hey essence told me about this place:

http://www4.cd-wow.com/

shipping is free...and it's available there already..it won't be available here in the states til june...

so if you really wanna hear it, it only took about a week for me to get it from them...

chickengrease said:

Yeah, she sucks and is wack.
Next.

It Ain't the Money is tha jam. There are some other choice cuts too. Don't be hatin' there's room for all ya'll

How are you guys able to hear this already..its not released yet is it? I have not seen it.

rdhull said:

hey rd..
it's been release overseas already and you can get it from:
http://www4.cd-wow.com/

shipping is free...

i say checkitout...

I just picked up the single also. I dig that also.. Track 2 is really nice.. would have fit well on the cd.

i saw here play last night at my job and she was off the hook! i must confess that i was not really into the last album simplt becuz of the overkill with the first album. everywhere i went that had speakers she was on and all that kookiness was getting kinda dry by then.
but last night made me believe again. she ain't got the most powerful voice but she used it to the best effect. and the band was shit hot and the new sings sounded great live. and boy is she dirty.
welcome back Macy. next time tho, don't be so damn late getting to the stage.

rdhull said:

I went ahead and ordered mine from amazon.co.uk.

I gave it another listen and haven't changed my opinion, her original spark has been dropping off and I don't think any of this new album can hang with the debut and maybe only one or two tracks could get on The Id. A few catchy moments here and there but overall a deflating experience...

Essence said:

Personally I prefer The Id over On How Life Is. I just don't think Trouble is as good as either. The only cut I'm truly satisfied with is It Aint the Money and that song that Jill Scott's production team wrote. As a whole it just doesn't move me.

chickengrease said:

I'd probably make the first two level, the debut had the career highlights and she was fresh and new to the scene while the id had perhaps more depth for grooves.

i must be the exception. After the first cd, i thought the Id was such a let down, I sold it used, did not even make a copy. This new one is back to form, and quite fresh. You can actually hear real instruments and some good lyrics. With so much trash out right now, spend $10 when it is released in the states in (July now) or get the Jap import. It is better than most of the pop stuff and most of the r&b releases. It's no R. Kelly bullshit, no b2k, no Nelly or hot producers. If you like Macy, you'll like it.

Jesus For a Day
It Ain't the Money
Speechless
She Ain't Right For You

download one and make your own decision

jthad1129 said:

Hehehe yeah we all hear it differently, "Jesus For A Day" is probably my least favourite song of hers over course of all three albums. It's so Macy-by-numbers to me...

Essence said:

that Spider-Man cut was my least favorite, Macy throw away

jthad1129 said:

Nutmeg Phantasy? w/ Billy Preston? you're a sick, sick man

chickengrease said:

Nutty Nutmeg Phantasy is dope.

rio said:

Gracias

that Spider-Man cut was Sexual Revolution, not Nutmeg Phantasy.

The Id is an instant classic

"Freak Like Me" -

From what I have read elsewhere in publications, the new one reads like a a let down but I dont go by what they write most of the time anyways..a lot of people didnt get the essence of The Id and the creativity that went into it, the diversity of the songs etc. The Id seems unclassifiable at times. It has elements of soul, rock, gospel, psycodelia, pomp and circumstance etc. This is the kind of record I would make if I could make records. Now here's hoping the new one is also as "out there".


please dont come around bringin me down edit
[This message was edited Tue May 20 10:23:32 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

rdhull said:

well again...i love it...i think it has some great tracks...

apparently that's not the general conscensus...but..you know...that's my opinion...

rio said:

I trust it

rdhull said:

She performed Nutmeg in some movie. I don't remember which one but I remember my daughter running to tell me like something was on fire. I read several reviews that said Trouble was no good. As always, I have to let my ears be the judge. I wouldn't call it garbage, but I definitely wouldn't call it progression.