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Reply #30 posted 05/06/03 6:54pm

Starmist7

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One problem I have with the 'True Blue' album is that there are so many synths,it's all over that record! That was pretty much the norm back in the 80s,but it gets annoying really quickly.The best thing about that album is the ballad "Live To Tell".There are some other cool songs,but overall,I'd say that the album is her most dated-sounding.


I dig 'Live to tell' very much...nod...
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Reply #31 posted 05/06/03 9:51pm

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Starmist7 said:

DavidEye said:

One problem I have with the 'True Blue' album is that there are so many synths,it's all over that record! That was pretty much the norm back in the 80s,but it gets annoying really quickly.The best thing about that album is the ballad "Live To Tell".There are some other cool songs,but overall,I'd say that the album is her most dated-sounding.


I dig 'Live to tell' very much...nod...


Keep It Together rocked on that one - was it on that one? It was, wasn't it?
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Reply #32 posted 05/06/03 9:52pm

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Moonbeam said:

otan said:

WHATEVER SONG it is where she's yelling PUSH THE BUTTON DON'T PUSH THE BUTTON.

Again, the poor girl just NEEDS to be turned out to pasture.


You are bitter today, huh?


Eehhh, she just went Monica Lewinsky last week, ALL OVER tv, on ANY station that would have her, pimping her new record. I think I saw her selling Cubic Zirconia earrings on the home shopping network.
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Reply #33 posted 05/06/03 10:23pm

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otan said:

Eehhh, she just went Monica Lewinsky last week, ALL OVER tv, on ANY station that would have her, pimping her new record. I think I saw her selling Cubic Zirconia earrings on the home shopping network.
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lol Yeah I can see how that would be annoying if you didn't like the record. biggrin I personally like the new album a lot, so it doesn't bother me much.
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Reply #34 posted 05/09/03 8:19pm

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I Know It shrug
Shoo Bee Doo barf
Pretender punching
Jimmy Jimmy stab
Can't Stop zzz
Dear Jessie rolleyes
What Can You Lose omg
One More Chance chainsaw
Runaway Lover fishslap
I'm So Stupid duh




honorable mention, Did You Do It machinegun

only honorable mention, since it's not really a Madonna song. but it does sully up the unclean version of the Erotica album.
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Reply #35 posted 05/10/03 12:13am

Moonbeam

AaronSuperior said:

I Know It shrug
Shoo Bee Doo barf
Pretender punching
Jimmy Jimmy stab
Can't Stop zzz
Dear Jessie rolleyes
What Can You Lose omg
One More Chance chainsaw
Runaway Lover fishslap
I'm So Stupid duh




honorable mention, Did You Do It machinegun

only honorable mention, since it's not really a Madonna song. but it does sully up the unclean version of the Erotica album.


No "American Life?" BTW, I agree w/ith your list wholeheartedly except for "Dear Jessie."
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Reply #36 posted 05/10/03 12:55am

TRON

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No "American Life?" BTW, I agree w/ith your list wholeheartedly except for "Dear Jessie."

"I'm So Stupid" makes you wanna hit yourself with a hammer?
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Reply #37 posted 05/10/03 12:56am

Moonbeam

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

No "American Life?" BTW, I agree w/ith your list wholeheartedly except for "Dear Jessie."

"I'm So Stupid" makes you wanna hit yourself with a hammer?


AH! I missed that! I love that song. biggrin
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Reply #38 posted 05/10/03 1:06am

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Moonbeam said:

AaronSuperior said:

I Know It shrug
Shoo Bee Doo barf
Pretender punching
Jimmy Jimmy stab
Can't Stop zzz
Dear Jessie rolleyes
What Can You Lose omg
One More Chance chainsaw
Runaway Lover fishslap
I'm So Stupid duh




honorable mention, Did You Do It machinegun

only honorable mention, since it's not really a Madonna song. but it does sully up the unclean version of the Erotica album.


No "American Life?" BTW, I agree w/ith your list wholeheartedly except for "Dear Jessie."



"American Life" is tolerable. it's grown on me to the point where i can enjoy it for what it is. i don't love it, but i don't hate it.
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Reply #39 posted 05/10/03 1:06am

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Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

Moonbeam said:

No "American Life?" BTW, I agree w/ith your list wholeheartedly except for "Dear Jessie."

"I'm So Stupid" makes you wanna hit yourself with a hammer?


AH! I missed that! I love that song. biggrin



it should be titled "I'm Such A Stupid Song" biggrin
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Reply #40 posted 05/10/03 1:07am

Moonbeam

AaronSuperior said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronSuperior said:

I Know It shrug
Shoo Bee Doo barf
Pretender punching
Jimmy Jimmy stab
Can't Stop zzz
Dear Jessie rolleyes
What Can You Lose omg
One More Chance chainsaw
Runaway Lover fishslap
I'm So Stupid duh




honorable mention, Did You Do It machinegun

only honorable mention, since it's not really a Madonna song. but it does sully up the unclean version of the Erotica album.


No "American Life?" BTW, I agree w/ith your list wholeheartedly except for "Dear Jessie."



"American Life" is tolerable. it's grown on me to the point where i can enjoy it for what it is. i don't love it, but i don't hate it.


Hmmm. It might be my very least favorite song of hers.
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Reply #41 posted 05/10/03 1:10am

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what's with people saying that Nothing Really Matters was a bad choice for a single? it obviously flopped, but it's the most "pop" song on the album, and and obvious choice for a single. i think it's a pretty stupid song, full of some vague cliches, but it's a decent single. it's certainly smarter, lyrically, than Beautiful Stranger, but it had things working against it.

it only flopped because the release schedule got so fucked up for it. they waffled back and forth on whether or not to go ahead and release it, and by the time they made up their minds. oh, and it was promoted with that horrible Grammy performance and that incomprehensible video.
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Reply #42 posted 05/10/03 1:16am

Moonbeam

AaronSuperior said:

what's with people saying that Nothing Really Matters was a bad choice for a single? it obviously flopped, but it's the most "pop" song on the album, and and obvious choice for a single. i think it's a pretty stupid song, full of some vague cliches, but it's a decent single. it's certainly smarter, lyrically, than Beautiful Stranger, but it had things working against it.

it only flopped because the release schedule got so fucked up for it. they waffled back and forth on whether or not to go ahead and release it, and by the time they made up their minds. oh, and it was promoted with that horrible Grammy performance and that incomprehensible video.


I was disappointed with its release, but I can't argue that it makes sense.
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Reply #43 posted 05/10/03 1:22am

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DavidEye said:

Starmist7 said:

lol @ 'Jimmy Jimmy' because I used to sing that a lot when I was younger, thanks for reminding me...reminds me of 'Hey Mickey' also...smilewink

I won't list the 'bad' ones, but "I remember', 'Who's that girl', and 'Love makes the world go round'...I don't see as 'bad' songs...

I suppose many hear liked 'White Heat'. I wasn't too fond of it back then, but I haven't heard it in so long, I think I'd like to hear it again...




One problem I have with the 'True Blue' album is that there are so many synths,it's all over that record! That was pretty much the norm back in the 80s,but it gets annoying really quickly.The best thing about that album is the ballad "Live To Tell".There are some other cool songs,but overall,I'd say that the album is her most dated-sounding.



more so than LAV? that's her most dated-sounding to me. and her worst as far as quality songs and production go.
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Reply #44 posted 05/12/03 4:18am

DavidEye

AaronSuperior said:

what's with people saying that Nothing Really Matters was a bad choice for a single? it obviously flopped, but it's the most "pop" song on the album, and and obvious choice for a single. i think it's a pretty stupid song, full of some vague cliches, but it's a decent single. it's certainly smarter, lyrically, than Beautiful Stranger, but it had things working against it.

it only flopped because the release schedule got so fucked up for it. they waffled back and forth on whether or not to go ahead and release it, and by the time they made up their minds. oh, and it was promoted with that horrible Grammy performance and that incomprehensible video.




I just feel that "Nothing Really Matters" is the least interesting song on the album.Compared to the other songs,it sounds rather conventional.In fact,"Nothing Really Matters" sounds like an outtake from the 'Erotica' album.

These should have been the five singles from 'ROL'...


"Frozen"
"Ray Of Light"
"Sky Fits Heaven"
"To Have And Not To Hold"
"Drowned World/Substitute For Love"
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Reply #45 posted 05/12/03 2:16pm

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DavidEye said:

Matters" sounds like an outtake from the 'Erotica' album.

These should have been the five singles from 'ROL'...


"Frozen"
"Ray Of Light"


givens


"Sky Fits Heaven"
"To Have And Not To Hold"
"Drowned World/Substitute For Love"


flops, through and through, even though i really like 2 of those 3 (DW is my favorite M song).

The Power Of Goodbye and Nothing Really Matters, as lyrically or musically uninteresting as they may be, are the obvious followup singles. they are the ones that had the best shot at airplay. they may be dull (i like POG though), but when you're picking singles for an album as different as ROL was in the context of what else was on the radio at the time, you pick the songs that are grounded as close to what people are already familiar with, and gradually push them in the direction of the new. look at how terribly Bedtime Story did.
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