I've always had this theory that so many bands, while riding high or doing well, have a troubled soul that leaves or otherwises fucks up the mojo and momentum of the group. Sometimes the whole group implodes, sometimes it's that one member that stands out as "more talented," or is the constant irritant causing rifts and others to fight back. Someone that throws a wrench into the original make-up of the group.

I saw an interview with Jesse Johnson. I thought - troubled soul. (I do think Jesse has valid hurt from his time around Prince and Morris.)

Other ones that come to mind are:

Jesse Johnson of The Time

Dawn Robinson of En Vogue

Justin Timberlake of Nsync

Sting of The Police

Michael Jackson of The Jacksons

Cheryl Cooley of Klymaxx

Lou Graham (or Mick Jones) of Foreigner

I'm not sure where you'd go with Eagles.

Am I making this up or do others see what I'm talking about here?

You forgot Prince of Prince and The Revolution.

TrivialPursuit said:

I've always had this theory that so many bands, while riding high or doing well, have a troubled soul that leaves or otherwises fucks up the mojo and momentum of the group. Sometimes the whole group implodes, sometimes it's that one member that stands out as "more talented," or is the constant irritant causing rifts and others to fight back. Someone that throws a wrench into the original make-up of the group.

I saw an interview with Jesse Johnson. I thought - troubled soul. (I do think Jesse has valid hurt from his time around Prince and Morris.)

Other ones that come to mind are:

Jesse Johnson of The Time

Dawn Robinson of En Vogue

Justin Timberlake of Nsync

Sting of The Police

Michael Jackson of The Jacksons

Cheryl Cooley of Klymaxx

Lou Graham (or Mick Jones) of Foreigner

I'm not sure where you'd go with Eagles.

Am I making this up or do others see what I'm talking about here?

Diana Ross of The Surpremes

With due respect because we're pals, St. Paul of The Family. He jetted way too soon. At least play out the promotion and campaign of it all. Ride that paycheck. "Rich Man" will be there by 1987.

I'd have to throw my musical mother Chaka Khan in the mix. As Rufus hit their pinnacle in 1977, things were falling a part behind the scenes. From stories I heard, even though she claims the problems stemmed from the guys always out-voting her over which songs to record, she was the main source of contention. She was receiving all of the critical and public praise, she allowed her husband at the time to contribute to the internal strife causing Andre Fischer to leave, she was the shinning star and she was being courted by labels to go solo.

She got the big head and stopped showing up for some of the recording sessions with the band as witnessed on their last three albums. Their final studio album "Camouflage, she refused to record in the same studio with the band and I remember her going to the press and asking people not to buy the album because if it was a success, she would have to go back on tour with Rufus. She was riding high on a gold certified, critically acclaimed album "What Cha Gonna Do For Me" so she had zero interest in doing a tour with Rufus.

kitbradley said:

I'd have to throw my musical mother Chaka Khan in the mix. As Rufus hit their pinnacle in 1977, things were falling a part behind the scenes. From stories I heard, even though she claims the problems stemmed from the guys always out-voting her over which songs to record, she was the main source of contention. She was receiving all of the critical and public praise, she allowed her husband at the time to contribute to the internal strife causing Andre Fischer to leave, she was the shinning star and she was being courted by labels to go solo.

She got the big head and stopped showing up for some of the recording sessions with the band as witnessed on their last three albums. Their final studio album "Camouflage, she refused to record in the same studio with the band and I remember her going to the press and asking people not to buy the album because if it was a success, she would have to go back on tour with Rufus. She was riding high on a gold certified, critically acclaimed album "What Cha Gonna Do For Me" so she had zero interest in doing a tour with Rufus.

You know, that's sort of a bitch move on her part back then. And it's always a husband that gets some shit messed up for his wife. (read: Suzanne Sommers). No one's innocent in situations like that, but damn girl.

TrivialPursuit said:

kitbradley said:

I'd have to throw my musical mother Chaka Khan in the mix. As Rufus hit their pinnacle in 1977, things were falling a part behind the scenes. From stories I heard, even though she claims the problems stemmed from the guys always out-voting her over which songs to record, she was the main source of contention. She was receiving all of the critical and public praise, she allowed her husband at the time to contribute to the internal strife causing Andre Fischer to leave, she was the shinning star and she was being courted by labels to go solo.

She got the big head and stopped showing up for some of the recording sessions with the band as witnessed on their last three albums. Their final studio album "Camouflage, she refused to record in the same studio with the band and I remember her going to the press and asking people not to buy the album because if it was a success, she would have to go back on tour with Rufus. She was riding high on a gold certified, critically acclaimed album "What Cha Gonna Do For Me" so she had zero interest in doing a tour with Rufus.

You know, that's sort of a bitch move on her part back then. And it's always a husband that gets some shit messed up for his wife. (read: Suzanne Sommers). No one's innocent in situations like that, but damn girl.

Bobby Watson has a channel on youtube. He speaks on a lot of things Chaka seemed to forget in her autobiography.

There is also an interview with Andre where he speaks about what it was like when she first joined the group. The other guys in the band didn't like her so he was always defending her and took her under his wing. Bobby co-signs this on his channel. During the interview Andre was throwing some shade at Chaka speaking about the kind of terrible condition she was in when she joined the group. You can tell he was really hurt by what happened.