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Thread started 02/07/25 11:40pm

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MJ biopic in development hell ? ( Prince Netflix all over again)

The current footage amounts to 4hours+. Possibly Split into two movies?
Current reshoots due to the Chandler affair.

More here :

https://www.yahoo.com/ent...15404.html

Prince Netflix backward : MJ estate wanted to talk about thé 1993 and 2003 shitstorm...but they can't. The estate "forgot" to inform thé movie makers they couldn't use the allegations in their script.

Also not clear, but the estate would have paid some of the accusers ( some says it s Frank Cascio, paid $16,5 million.
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Reply #1 posted 02/08/25 12:29am

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Of course! What is it with these dumbass estates? lol

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Reply #2 posted 02/08/25 1:25am

SoulAlive

Honestly,is a Michael Jackson biopic even necessary at this point? What else is there to know about his life and his career? His story has been told over and over and over.No need to revisit this story.
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Reply #3 posted 02/08/25 8:48am

SoulAlive

it's a tough time for biopics right now.The new Pharrell biopic has just been cancelled eek

Pharrell Williams, Michel... Shut Down

hmmm I wonder if it would be a better idea to just make a multi-part TV series instead of a theatrical movie.These days,many people prefer streaming at home,as opposed to going to a movie theatre.

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Reply #4 posted 02/08/25 7:27pm

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SoulAlive said:

Honestly,is a Michael Jackson biopic even necessary at this point? What else is there to know about his life and his career? His story has been told over and over and over.No need to revisit this story.

That's just what I was thinking...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #5 posted 02/09/25 7:34am

RODSERLING

SoulAlive said:

it's a tough time for biopics right now.The new Pharrell biopic has just been cancelled eek



Pharrell Williams, Michel... Shut Down




hmmm I wonder if it would be a better idea to just make a multi-part TV series instead of a theatrical movie.These days,many people prefer streaming at home,as opposed to going to a movie theatre.



What s is needed is the Beatles Anthology format, tied with releases.
I thought this would have been done shortly after his death.

Now with AI you can erase all the hisses and noises from his demos recording.
George Martin son is currently working on cleaning the Beatles Anthology for re-release purpose. This will be so fucking great.
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Reply #6 posted 02/11/25 1:35am

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The Jackson Five documentary will never be topped. An MJ biopic needs to be done in the future by someone who is not the estate or an accuser. When more time has gone by and there’s either more facts, which seems unlikely, or these lawsuits have settled and there’s less opinion on guilt or
innocence. Anything out today is going to seem too soft or too damning.
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Reply #7 posted 02/11/25 5:44am

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Going Beatles Anthology for the music, the art, or going full Citizen Kane is the easy way to grasp the good, the bad, the frailty of someone's who was just human after all.
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Reply #8 posted 02/15/25 10:05pm

Vannormal

SoulAlive said:

Honestly,is a Michael Jackson biopic even necessary at this point? What else is there to know about his life and his career? His story has been told over and over and over.No need to revisit this story.

Of course every knows everything. It's just to keep his legacy alive for $.

What else.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #10 posted 02/18/25 7:18am

Vannormal

bots are becomming so stupid, that they even repeat the same post in several different threads

gosh, get rid of them here please

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #11 posted 02/23/25 2:05am

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Produced by the award-winning AMOS Pictures and filmed over five years with full access to Wade, James, their families and legal teams, Leaving Neverland II: Surviving Michael Jackson tells the story of a difficult journey and its many twists, turns and setbacks. Returning multi award-winning director Dan Reed documents the second stage of Wade and James’s quest which is now close to fruition.
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Reply #12 posted 02/23/25 2:09am

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The third and final film will cover the trial, scheduled for late 2026, thus completing the Leaving Neverland trilogy. If their cases are successful, the potential positive impact on the United States’ entertainment industry will be huge. Music and movie companies will no longer be able to shrug off responsibility when one of their stars sexually abuses a minor in their care.

The documentary also examines the impact of its 2019 predecessor Leaving Neverland and of Oprah Winfrey’s follow-up programme on the two men and their families, and on the hard-core MJ fan community.




This is getting to be really harsh for the future of the biopic movie.
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Reply #13 posted 02/25/25 2:41am

Gooddoctor23

Mj? lol....talk about overkill.

Graycap23 was ME!
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Reply #14 posted 02/25/25 4:46am

SoulAlive

Gooddoctor23 said:

Mj? lol....talk about overkill.



Indeed biggrin I’m a fan of MJ but I don’t even want to see a biopic on him.The story’s been told too many times.I won’t waste my money on this movie.
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Reply #15 posted 02/25/25 8:39am

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This movie, if every released in one part 3 hours movie as intented, will Indeed be a flop ( meaning it wouldn't recoup his 300 M like production/ promotion budget).
Beside Bohemian Rhapsody, every biopic released have done terrible box office numbers.
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Reply #16 posted 02/26/25 11:18pm

SoulAlive

Superstition said:

The Jackson Five documentary will never be topped.


I agree,it was excellent.The rest of MJ’s life and career has already been well-documented.The world doesn’t need another MJ biopic.
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Reply #17 posted 02/27/25 5:24pm

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SoulAlive said:

Superstition said:

The Jackson Five documentary will never be topped.


I agree,it was excellent.The rest of MJ’s life and career has already been well-documented.The world doesn’t need another MJ biopic.



If they're going to launch the movie alongside a soundtrack featuring unreleased material then I'm all for it. I have no interest in the movie because I don't care about the private life of celebrities but I'll gladly take any unreleased music they have.
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Reply #18 posted 02/28/25 11:52am

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New unreleased tracks would be a good selling argument for both the movie and a potential soundtrack, but this is very unlikely. A few years ago, the MJ estate stated publicly there were no more unreleased "finished" tracks from MJ : they already used everything they've got.
It s a could fact this is for thé least untruthful : numerous finished songs have since appeared on YouTube in very good qualité. In fact in so much Better quality that what has been released so far by the estate.
I could quote Chicago 1945, Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me, etc.

So why would they lie? Because that estate doesn't want to give a penny to other producers. Their policy IS to only release tracks written, composed and arranged/produced by MJ ( cf Bad 25). They don't want any financial arrangements with another producer. Quincy Jones offered them his material, including a whole authentic accoustic version of the Off The Wall album, among other things liké finished tracks only known as demo, but they refused to pay.

Other producers, including Steve Porcaro refused the Michael album treatment. Hence the fact Chicago 1945 was never released.
There IS also a holding UP from Rodney Jerkins. On Xscape they released a poor version of the track, containing less elements than the original 2003 leak (!)

There are regularly some auctions with MJ unreleased tracks ( lately 12 songs recorded with Bryan Loren, History sessions, etc.) and every Time they pass on it.
I could also mention the numerous seminaries sessions, that I attend from Time to Time with unreleased songs : the estate knows about it but they don't Care to buy them.

Now, any soundtrack AT all IS also unlikely because the movie contains 30+ songs
Including the J5 ones, that doesn't belong to Sony.
Sure, they could do a joint-release ( liké Thé Essential and Ultimate Collection) but again, the estate doesn't want to pay.

I only Hope there is in the movie a song or two that will highlight lesser known tracks, such as Heaven Can Wait ( which is one of the biggest MJ song on Spotify !), Speechless or Whatever Happens, AT a Key point in the movie. Something to give a little bit of Life to Invincible

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Reply #19 posted 02/28/25 4:12pm

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New unreleased tracks would be a good selling argument for both the movie and a potential soundtrack, but this is very unlikely. A few years ago, the MJ estate stated publicly there were no more unreleased "finished" tracks from MJ : they already used everything they've got. It s a could fact this is for thé least untruthful : numerous finished songs have since appeared on YouTube in very good qualité. In fact in so much Better quality that what has been released so far by the estate. I could quote Chicago 1945, Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me, etc. So why would they lie? Because that estate doesn't want to give a penny to other producers. Their policy IS to only release tracks written, composed and arranged/produced by MJ ( cf Bad 25). They don't want any financial arrangements with another producer. Quincy Jones offered them his material, including a whole authentic accoustic version of the Off The Wall album, among other things liké finished tracks only known as demo, but they refused to pay. Other producers, including Steve Porcaro refused the Michael album treatment. Hence the fact Chicago 1945 was never released. There IS also a holding UP from Rodney Jerkins. On Xscape they released a poor version of the track, containing less elements than the original 2003 leak (!) There are regularly some auctions with MJ unreleased tracks ( lately 12 songs recorded with Bryan Loren, History sessions, etc.) and every Time they pass on it. I could also mention the numerous seminaries sessions, that I attend from Time to Time with unreleased songs : the estate knows about it but they don't Care to buy them. Now, any soundtrack AT all IS also unlikely because the movie contains 30+ songs Including the J5 ones, that doesn't belong to Sony. Sure, they could do a joint-release ( liké Thé Essential and Ultimate Collection) but again, the estate doesn't want to pay. I only Hope there is in the movie a song or two that will highlight lesser known tracks, such as Heaven Can Wait ( which is one of the biggest MJ song on Spotify !), Speechless or Whatever Happens, AT a Key point in the movie. Something to give a little bit of Life to Invincible biggrin

U folks are funny. 95% of the Mj tracks after Bad were/are awful released or otherwise.

Graycap23 was ME!
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Reply #20 posted 03/01/25 8:08pm

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Gooddoctor23 said:



RODSERLING said:


New unreleased tracks would be a good selling argument for both the movie and a potential soundtrack, but this is very unlikely. A few years ago, the MJ estate stated publicly there were no more unreleased "finished" tracks from MJ : they already used everything they've got. It s a could fact this is for thé least untruthful : numerous finished songs have since appeared on YouTube in very good qualité. In fact in so much Better quality that what has been released so far by the estate. I could quote Chicago 1945, Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me, etc. So why would they lie? Because that estate doesn't want to give a penny to other producers. Their policy IS to only release tracks written, composed and arranged/produced by MJ ( cf Bad 25). They don't want any financial arrangements with another producer. Quincy Jones offered them his material, including a whole authentic accoustic version of the Off The Wall album, among other things liké finished tracks only known as demo, but they refused to pay. Other producers, including Steve Porcaro refused the Michael album treatment. Hence the fact Chicago 1945 was never released. There IS also a holding UP from Rodney Jerkins. On Xscape they released a poor version of the track, containing less elements than the original 2003 leak (!) There are regularly some auctions with MJ unreleased tracks ( lately 12 songs recorded with Bryan Loren, History sessions, etc.) and every Time they pass on it. I could also mention the numerous seminaries sessions, that I attend from Time to Time with unreleased songs : the estate knows about it but they don't Care to buy them. Now, any soundtrack AT all IS also unlikely because the movie contains 30+ songs Including the J5 ones, that doesn't belong to Sony. Sure, they could do a joint-release ( liké Thé Essential and Ultimate Collection) but again, the estate doesn't want to pay. I only Hope there is in the movie a song or two that will highlight lesser known tracks, such as Heaven Can Wait ( which is one of the biggest MJ song on Spotify !), Speechless or Whatever Happens, AT a Key point in the movie. Something to give a little bit of Life to Invincible biggrin

U folks are funny. 95% of the Mj tracks after Bad were/are awful released or otherwise.


History for me was his best album.I liked Dangerous also.History was always gonna get poor reviews because he's criticizes the press & media on it..History as more attitude than his other albums..Top album.
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Reply #21 posted 03/01/25 9:50pm

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History/BOTDF : the best MJ ever.
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Reply #22 posted 03/01/25 10:37pm

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Gooddoctor23 said:



RODSERLING said:


New unreleased tracks would be a good selling argument for both the movie and a potential soundtrack, but this is very unlikely. A few years ago, the MJ estate stated publicly there were no more unreleased "finished" tracks from MJ : they already used everything they've got. It s a could fact this is for thé least untruthful : numerous finished songs have since appeared on YouTube in very good qualité. In fact in so much Better quality that what has been released so far by the estate. I could quote Chicago 1945, Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me, etc. So why would they lie? Because that estate doesn't want to give a penny to other producers. Their policy IS to only release tracks written, composed and arranged/produced by MJ ( cf Bad 25). They don't want any financial arrangements with another producer. Quincy Jones offered them his material, including a whole authentic accoustic version of the Off The Wall album, among other things liké finished tracks only known as demo, but they refused to pay. Other producers, including Steve Porcaro refused the Michael album treatment. Hence the fact Chicago 1945 was never released. There IS also a holding UP from Rodney Jerkins. On Xscape they released a poor version of the track, containing less elements than the original 2003 leak (!) There are regularly some auctions with MJ unreleased tracks ( lately 12 songs recorded with Bryan Loren, History sessions, etc.) and every Time they pass on it. I could also mention the numerous seminaries sessions, that I attend from Time to Time with unreleased songs : the estate knows about it but they don't Care to buy them. Now, any soundtrack AT all IS also unlikely because the movie contains 30+ songs Including the J5 ones, that doesn't belong to Sony. Sure, they could do a joint-release ( liké Thé Essential and Ultimate Collection) but again, the estate doesn't want to pay. I only Hope there is in the movie a song or two that will highlight lesser known tracks, such as Heaven Can Wait ( which is one of the biggest MJ song on Spotify !), Speechless or Whatever Happens, AT a Key point in the movie. Something to give a little bit of Life to Invincible biggrin

U folks are funny. 95% of the Mj tracks after Bad were/are awful released or otherwise.



I'd argue that at least 60% of it was good. Funny how different people can have different opinions, isn't it lol
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Reply #23 posted 03/02/25 2:38am

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Concerning that post-Bad material : I asked Brad Sundberg, an engineer for MJ circa 1985-1997, who was the first to write Twinpeaks theme : MJ or Badalamente?
The Dangerous demo, supposedly recorded in 1989 has the Twinpeaks theme in the final coda.
But, Badalamente is also vaguely crédited in the Dangerous album.
Lynch was hired to direct Black Or White, then fired, and instead directed some promotionals for the Dangerous album.

Brad Sundberg answered me he didn't know the Twinpeaks theme (!) but didn't remember MJ saying " WE re gonna give tribute to Twinpeaks".

So, maybe two people working in the same circle had the same musical idea Around the same time, but that's not a satisfying answer.

Then at the end of the original Twinpeaks run Dale Cooper says "How is Annie", like he could have said " Annie are you okay?"
+ In the pilot Bobby is doing the moonwalk.
So there s a conspiracy theory here of my own.
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Reply #24 posted 03/02/25 6:06pm

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Gooddoctor23 said:

U folks are funny. 95% of the Mj tracks after Bad were/are awful released or otherwise.

History for me was his best album.I liked Dangerous also.History was always gonna get poor reviews because he's criticizes the press & media on it..History as more attitude than his other albums..Top album. [Edited 3/1/25 20:09pm]

lol.......I 4got about History & Dangerous. I like them both.

Graycap23 was ME!
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Reply #25 posted 03/05/25 1:02am

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Gooddoctor23 said:

RODSERLING said:

New unreleased tracks would be a good selling argument for both the movie and a potential soundtrack, but this is very unlikely. A few years ago, the MJ estate stated publicly there were no more unreleased "finished" tracks from MJ : they already used everything they've got. It s a could fact this is for thé least untruthful : numerous finished songs have since appeared on YouTube in very good qualité. In fact in so much Better quality that what has been released so far by the estate. I could quote Chicago 1945, Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me, etc. So why would they lie? Because that estate doesn't want to give a penny to other producers. Their policy IS to only release tracks written, composed and arranged/produced by MJ ( cf Bad 25). They don't want any financial arrangements with another producer. Quincy Jones offered them his material, including a whole authentic accoustic version of the Off The Wall album, among other things liké finished tracks only known as demo, but they refused to pay. Other producers, including Steve Porcaro refused the Michael album treatment. Hence the fact Chicago 1945 was never released. There IS also a holding UP from Rodney Jerkins. On Xscape they released a poor version of the track, containing less elements than the original 2003 leak (!) There are regularly some auctions with MJ unreleased tracks ( lately 12 songs recorded with Bryan Loren, History sessions, etc.) and every Time they pass on it. I could also mention the numerous seminaries sessions, that I attend from Time to Time with unreleased songs : the estate knows about it but they don't Care to buy them. Now, any soundtrack AT all IS also unlikely because the movie contains 30+ songs Including the J5 ones, that doesn't belong to Sony. Sure, they could do a joint-release ( liké Thé Essential and Ultimate Collection) but again, the estate doesn't want to pay. I only Hope there is in the movie a song or two that will highlight lesser known tracks, such as Heaven Can Wait ( which is one of the biggest MJ song on Spotify !), Speechless or Whatever Happens, AT a Key point in the movie. Something to give a little bit of Life to Invincible biggrin

U folks are funny. 95% of the Mj tracks after Bad were/are awful released or otherwise.


And you are a total clown. Clueless to the core.

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