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TrivialPursuit

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BEYONCE - ACT II: COWBOY CARTER

Beyonce's new album, the second of her Renaissance trilogy came out at midnight. It's her foray into country music which has been praised and criticized (before the album even came out).

Tracklist:

  1. AMERICAN REQUIEM
  2. BLACKBIRD
  3. 16 CARRIAGES
  4. PROTECTOR
  5. MY ROSE
  6. SMOKE HOUR ★ WILLIE NELSON
  7. TEXAS HOLD 'EM
  8. BODYGUARD
  9. DOLLY P
  10. JOLENE
  11. DAUGHTER
  12. SPAGHETTI
  13. ALLIGATOR TEARS
  14. SMOKE HOUR II
  15. JUST FOR FUN
  16. II MOST WANTED
  17. LEVI'S JEANS
  18. FLAMENCO
  19. THE LINDA MARTELL SHOW
  20. YA YA
  21. OH LOUISIANA
  22. DESERT EAGLE
  23. RIVERDANCE
  24. II HANDS II HEAVEN
  25. TYRANT
  26. SWEET ★ HONEY ★ BUCKIN
  27. AMEN

"Blackbiird" is a cover of the Beatles' "Blackbird," written byJohn Lennon andPaul McCartney.
"Dolly P" features a "voice mail" interlude by Dolly Parton.
"Jolene" is a cover of Dolly Parton's song of the same name, written by Parton, but it features significant lyric changes.

Featured artists:

Track 2: Brittney Spencer, Reyna Roberts, Tanner Adell, and Tiera Kennedy

Track 4: Rumi Carter

Track 6 and 14: Willie Nelson

Track 12: Linda Martell and Shaboozey

Track 15: Willie Jones

Track 16: Miley Cyrus

Track 17: Post Malone

Track 19: Linda Martell

Track 26: Shaboozey

Segues:

Tracks 5, 9, 14, 19, 21

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #1 posted 03/28/24 11:56pm

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Does she scream-sing over her country tracks too is all I'm curious about.

Surely the answer is a unanimous "yes" so I'll move on now.

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Reply #2 posted 03/29/24 6:05am

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It's cute I guess if you like that kind of music. I enjoyed The Beatles cover. Didn't enjoy the new Jolene.

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Reply #3 posted 03/29/24 10:22am

SolaceAHA

I'm just not really into her anymore, I was never big on her, shes amazingly talented and great performer Im just not in that space of that kind of artist, pop/rb mainstream etc...it gets boring after a while to me, which is why I tired of Mariah and others. I saw a funny article about JLO and her camp wondering why her album did poorly and one person said "i think people have moved on" I mean especially in the commercial mainstream type of star you are, you can't be in your 50's still singing new songs that "sound like" you wish you were 20 still. I get this vibe with Mariah, Beyonce and others. It's also the fact they have huge teams behind them, writers, beat makers, producers, there is that "been there done that". But I mean the Beyonce will be a huge first week seller etc...and then if she loses a country or album of the year award to Kacey Musgraves next year, we will have to hear from Jay again on how she is deprived. Also 27 tracks (22 songs) 78 minutes, sorry this is another one of my complaints not just with her many others too, someone needs to step in and hit the edit/stop button

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Reply #4 posted 03/29/24 11:55am

RJOrion

Great Great album
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Reply #5 posted 03/29/24 1:06pm

TrivialPursuit

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RJOrion said:

Great Great album


I've gotten through about 2/3 of it then I had to go to bed. It started late.

I mostly enjoyed what I heard. Some things stuck out more than others. "Jolene" is good for her voice, and the addition of a bridge, and the lyric changes feel more empowering for a woman, rather than the "please don't take my man" stance in the original.

I wish Willie or Dolly were actually singing. But the Post Malone track is nice. I need to revisit the Miley one to get a handle on it.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #6 posted 03/30/24 7:14am

CoolMF

Sampled through some of this on iTunes last night just outta curiosity. Not into Beyonce or country music but much MUCH respect to her for doing this and even more respect to her for using her platform and popularity to bring attention to Black country singers of the past...

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Reply #7 posted 03/30/24 10:31pm

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Not a beyonce fan, i just dont like her as an artist, as a singer i find her powerful but too guarded to really warm to her, but she always has a few songs i like on each album

Interested to see what she does on the next album. Last one was dance music, this one is country, will the next one be... metal? Lol.
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Reply #8 posted 04/01/24 8:25am

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The guitar solo on Bodyguard... eek ... sounds familiar...

It's another bold, creative, inspired album. The past 10 years have been wild from her, and it's so rare for an artist to sound this free at this point in their career. It's an awesome thing to see.

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Reply #9 posted 04/01/24 8:44am

TrivialPursuit

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Mintchip said:

The guitar solo on Bodyguard... eek ... sounds familiar...


What is sounds like is some of the same petals or FX that Prince used in later years; that compressed weird rubber-band sounding thing. I noticed that too, but Prince didn't come up with that either. So, there are probably 500 other songs in the world that sound like that.

I've not been able to circle back to the album to finish it yet. But I'll be able to soon.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #10 posted 04/01/24 12:00pm

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Never been a fan - but was curious so took a listen - well, still not a fan... lol I sorta liked the cover of Blackbird. But all it really did is make me want to listen to the White Album. Jolene was painful.

But total respect for trying something new and that people are diggin it.

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Reply #11 posted 04/01/24 1:24pm

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Dolly admiring the looks of another woman is what made “Jolene” interesting, not the possessiveness of the partner, so I think Beyoncé leaned into the toxic side of the song with her writing camp’s changes.
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Reply #12 posted 04/04/24 4:11am

Vannormal

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Does she scream-sing over her country tracks too is all I'm curious about.

Surely the answer is a unanimous "yes" so I'll move on now.

Better never judge so fast, it's maybe a unanimous 'no'.

This is a decent and actually a very good coherent album!

Should've been five or six songs shorter for me.

But all material is good.

(Just don't get the ACT II part. This album is so far away from 'Renaissance' to me.)

I never was a big fan of her, but Lemonade made me listen better and appreciate her more.

I am surprised how well crafted and interesting this album is made with a lot of tribute, instead of re-inventing country.

You just don't mess with the power and talent of Beyoncé.

She is unblievably talented, whether you like her or not.

I just don't give a horse shit (to stay album theme related) about all the bling-bling attitude.

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Pitchfork has a great and really long detailed review on this album, worth a read while listening.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #13 posted 04/05/24 8:22am

2freaky

Rick Beato talks about how bad her lyrics are. lol

I'll tell U what the Eye in the Pimp stand 4!
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Reply #14 posted 04/05/24 5:33pm

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Vannormal said:



WhisperingDandelions said:


Does she scream-sing over her country tracks too is all I'm curious about.



Surely the answer is a unanimous "yes" so I'll move on now.



Better never judge so fast, it's maybe a unanimous 'no'.


This is a decent and actually a very good coherent album!


Should've been five or six songs shorter for me.


But all material is good.


(Just don't get the ACT II part. This album is so far away from 'Renaissance' to me.)


I never was a big fan of her, but Lemonade made me listen better and appreciate her more.


I am surprised how well crafted and interesting this album is made with a lot of tribute, instead of re-inventing country.


You just don't mess with the power and talent of Beyoncé.


She is unblievably talented, whether you like her or not.


I just don't give a horse shit (to stay album theme related) about all the bling-bling attitude.


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Pitchfork has a great and really long detailed review on this album, worth a read while listening.



I agree with this completely. With Lemonade, Beyoncé started a journey of being an album artist who pushes herself creatively. What a unparalleled mid to late career of a superstar.
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Reply #15 posted 04/05/24 8:30pm

RJOrion

2freaky said:

Rick Beato talks about how bad her lyrics are. lol




Who the hell is "Rick Beato"?...and where can we find HIS music at?
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Reply #16 posted 04/05/24 11:28pm

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All the positive reviews made me realize The-Dream must have credits on these.

How are these ones:?

  1. ALLIGATOR TEARS
  2. LEVI'S JEANS
  3. YA YA
  4. OH LOUISIANA
  5. RIVERDANC
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Reply #17 posted 04/07/24 4:46pm

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RJOrion said:

2freaky said:

Rick Beato talks about how bad her lyrics are. lol




Who the hell is "Rick Beato"?...and where can we find HIS music at?


He’s a music youtuber who has a series called What Makes This Song Great. He just talks about music theory stuff and why it makes a song great.
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Reply #18 posted 04/07/24 6:32pm

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Rick Beato is no slouch. He knows his shit and has great interviews.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #19 posted 04/08/24 11:51pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Rick Beato is no slouch. He knows his shit and has great interviews.

That doesn't tell us what he's done such that we would value his opinion. Simply being a Youtuber holds no weight.

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Reply #20 posted 04/09/24 11:07am

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whodknee said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Rick Beato is no slouch. He knows his shit and has great interviews.

That doesn't tell us what he's done such that we would value his opinion. Simply being a Youtuber holds no weight.


LOL @ "a youtuber."

He's out there if you actually want to learn who he is, is all I'm saying.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #21 posted 04/09/24 1:32pm

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lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #22 posted 04/11/24 11:06pm

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whodknee said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Rick Beato is no slouch. He knows his shit and has great interviews.

That doesn't tell us what he's done such that we would value his opinion. Simply being a Youtuber holds no weight.

Credentials went the way of the dodo.

Get a nice microphone, some decent lighting, maybe a green screen, a "relatable" personality. Modern media don't need no stinking credentials.

[Edited 4/11/24 23:07pm]

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