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Thread started 01/16/24 12:52am

SoulAlive

Jody Watley says "enough is enough" (more Shalamar drama)

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Reply #1 posted 01/16/24 6:41am

RJOrion

Those 3 have been slinging dirt and mud at each other for years...they clearly and deeply hate each other...and Howard Hewett has always had a bad reputation as an arrogant ass...Jody also says that Jeffrey Daniels used to physically beat her up...Shalamar's legacy is in total shambles
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Reply #2 posted 01/16/24 11:33am

SoulAlive

RJOrion said:

Those 3 have been slinging dirt and mud at each other for years...they clearly and deeply hate each other...and Howard Hewett has always had a bad reputation as an arrogant ass...Jody also says that Jeffrey Daniels used to physically beat her up...Shalamar's legacy is in total shambles

yeah and it's really a shame.I don't expect to ever see a reunion of these three.

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[Edited 1/16/24 11:41am]

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Reply #3 posted 01/16/24 12:22pm

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I recall an interview with Howard I believe I saw it on youtube last year where he was reaching out to Jody. He said she was upset because he told her she would be nothing withiut Shalamar. He admitted she proved him wrong because her solo career proved far more successful than his. I didnt know she had issues with Jeffrey too. So sad. I would never expect a reunion but was hoping they would heal those old wounds.
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Reply #4 posted 01/16/24 1:37pm

SoulAlive

yeah I saw that video last year where Howard apologized to Jody.
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Reply #5 posted 01/16/24 3:12pm

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rolleyes

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #6 posted 01/16/24 3:37pm

SolaceAHA

Way back when the Bands Reunited series was happening their was a backstage pass episode which showed reunions they never got enough footage for or got shut down right away, and Shalamar was one of them, Howard was the only one they went too, he said "I'll do it but I doubt you can talk to the others" and sure enough I believe Jody shut them down via message to not even approach her about it. And this was 2004-05 I believe when that show was on the air.

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Reply #7 posted 01/16/24 6:32pm

SoulAlive

It really sucks when bands have “issues” that prevent them from ever working together again.Look at what’s happening with Hall and Oates right now.It’s the loyal fans who suffer the most.
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Reply #8 posted 01/16/24 6:48pm

RJOrion

SoulAlive said:

It really sucks when bands have “issues” that prevent them from ever working together again.Look at what’s happening with Hall and Oates right now.It’s the loyal fans who suffer the most.



Unfortunately, thats life...on and off stage...whether its music bands, sports teams, or a girlfriend & boyfriend or a husband & wife...people have different personalities, beliefs, and agendas...and the hands of time will often tear people apart. And it can often be ugly and hurtful...especially when its in public view.
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Reply #9 posted 01/16/24 9:19pm

SoulAlive

So true.I guess we’ll just have to listen to the old records and enjoy our memories.
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/24 4:06pm

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I guess there won't be a Second Time Around. whofarted razz

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Reply #11 posted 01/20/24 4:08pm

SoulAlive

whodknee said:

I guess there won't be a Second Time Around. whofarted razz

smile

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Reply #12 posted 01/20/24 10:24pm

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Oh she back on her bullshit again biggrin

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Reply #13 posted 01/21/24 12:50pm

SolaceAHA

SoulAlive said:

It really sucks when bands have “issues” that prevent them from ever working together again.Look at what’s happening with Hall and Oates right now.It’s the loyal fans who suffer the most.


a bit different with hall and Oates first because of the public demand and the back catalog. I mean I like shalamar but they have been done for a long time, at least that version, and they just don't have the demand or back catalog where I could see them being coaxed to swallow their pride and do something. I mean hall and Oates I could see thought it's doubtful playing shows again, because John's solo career and live at Daryl's as good as it may be, is not as a good as a few checks from a summer tour.

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Reply #14 posted 01/23/24 1:55am

noblekeon

To hear that a band can't work together due to "issues" is frustrating.Behold the current state of affairs involving Hall and Oates.The diehard supporters take the brunt of it.

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Reply #15 posted 01/25/24 12:11am

SoulAlive

interestingly,in the 90s,Babyface was able to "reunite" Howard,Jody and Jeffrey on his uptempo remake of "This Is For The Lover In You",But he had even bigger plans for the group.He wanted to sign them to his label and produce a Shalamar comeback album eek Face was red-hot at that time and I bet the album would have been huge.What a missed opportunity.

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Reply #16 posted 01/25/24 6:45am

hardwork

https://youtu.be/UoKr_pc5...fEpLdSjTDo

Jody Watley with The Bomb Squad and True Mathematics right around the time "Nation of Millions" dropped.

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Reply #17 posted 02/03/24 9:17am

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LOL I kinda forgot about Micki Free's "Shalamar" with Delisa Davis... and that ex-football player?? I DO remember being asked to a taping of some late-night music show at ABC studios back in the day and hearing that Shalamar was going to perform. Skeptical since it was only a year after Jody's debut album, I was later confused and let down when three unrecognizable randoms took stage. I was actually there to see Jill Jones. Anyway, its sad that folks are still up to these kind of "Games" 35(!!!) years later. (I had to Google the song I watched "Shalamar" lip-sync that night). And I'm ROLLING at the Katt Williams reference! 😂 I'll ALWAYS support Jody... for being the liberating soundtrack to my youth, a cultural icon, and a TRUE artist. (ps, "Still A Thrill" is the best music video EVER made... period, dot) ❤

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