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Thriller 40th Anniversary Documentary

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Forty years after the release of Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller,’ the best-selling album of all-time, director Nelson George takes fans back in time to the making of a pop masterpiece, featuring never-before-seen footage and candid interviews.Thriller 40 is streaming December 2 with the Paramount+ with SHOWTIME plan.

Forty years after the release of Michael Jackson’s “Thriller”, the best-selling album of all time worldwide, Director Nelson George takes fans back in time to experience the making of the record-breaking album and the release of the accompanying short films that forever redefined the music video format. Featuring never-before-seen footage and exclusive interviews, THRILLER 40 chronicles the creation of a pre-internet global phenomenon unlike anything before it or since. “Thriller” launched Michael Jackson into mega-stardom and to this day continues to influence all aspects of culture and entertainment including the worlds of music, dance, and fashion. Music and entertainment luminaries including Usher, Mary J. Blige, Will.I.Am, Mark Ronson, Misty Copeland, Maxwell, and John Landis are featured in the documentary.

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Reply #1 posted 10/27/23 4:06pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Video.

Forty years after the release of Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller,’ the best-selling album of all-time, director Nelson George takes fans back in time to the making of a pop masterpiece, featuring never-before-seen footage and candid interviews.Thriller 40 is streaming December 2 with the Paramount+ with SHOWTIME plan.

Forty years after the release of Michael Jackson’s “Thriller”, the best-selling album of all time worldwide, Director Nelson George takes fans back in time to experience the making of the record-breaking album and the release of the accompanying short films that forever redefined the music video format. Featuring never-before-seen footage and exclusive interviews, THRILLER 40 chronicles the creation of a pre-internet global phenomenon unlike anything before it or since. “Thriller” launched Michael Jackson into mega-stardom and to this day continues to influence all aspects of culture and entertainment including the worlds of music, dance, and fashion. Music and entertainment luminaries including Usher, Mary J. Blige, Will.I.Am, Mark Ronson, Misty Copeland, Maxwell, and John Landis are featured in the documentary.

Better late than never. The Victory tour footage looks lovely all cleaned up. Also makes me sad we don't have a Blu-Ray of that tour still, and probably never will either.

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Marrk said:

Better late than never. The Victory tour footage looks lovely all cleaned up. Also makes me sad we don't have a Blu-Ray of that tour still, and probably never will either.


Not everything just translates to bluray for the heck of it, though. The "Billie Jean" video was barely tolerable. The footage that has leaked has been - well, worse than the Syracuse video. I'm not always sure everything can be so easily cleaned up. It's unfortunate, but a video from 1984 isn't necessary ripe for a remaster.

I hate it, because my aunt went two the opening show in Kansas, and a Dallas show the next week. I was so into Victory, and I missed that the only real footage was from "Billie Jean." (I'm so goddamn tired of that song. LOL)

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Reply #3 posted 10/27/23 6:34pm

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I can hardly wait for this...

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Reply #4 posted 10/27/23 6:43pm

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It's funny as I dig the album but as a musician, I really find that album 2 be bore in almost every way. Mj took advantage of the "video" in the early 80's because musically that album really isnt that good lyrically or musically.

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Gooddoctor23 said:

It's funny as I dig the album but as a musician, I really find that album 2 be bore in almost every way. Mj took advantage of the "video" in the early 80's because musically that album really isnt that good lyrically or musically.


I think everyone over 45 just has ear fatigue from it at this point. It's not that it's not a great record, but how many fucking times have we played it, danced to it, had it on the background, at a party, while making dinner, or whatever?

I know every fucking note on that record, and if I never hear it again, it could be too soon.

I mean, I'll hear it again probably anyway.

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Reply #6 posted 10/27/23 8:07pm

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Gooddoctor23 said:

It's funny as I dig the album but as a musician, I really find that album 2 be bore in almost every way. Mj took advantage of the "video" in the early 80's because musically that album really isnt that good lyrically or musically.

Thriller (the entire album) will never be boring for me...it is Halloween now and once again I am hearing Thriller the song everywhere. It is 40 years and I still love that album. I still like to play "Beat It" when I need to get pumped or while working out. But to each his/her own.

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Reply #7 posted 10/28/23 6:28am

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Gooddoctor23 said:

It's funny as I dig the album but as a musician, I really find that album 2 be bore in almost every way. Mj took advantage of the "video" in the early 80's because musically that album really isnt that good lyrically or musically.




I agree 100%..."off the wall" and "dangerous" are musically and lyrically superior to "thriller" IMO
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Reply #8 posted 10/28/23 6:36am

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TrivialPursuit said:



Gooddoctor23 said:


It's funny as I dig the album but as a musician, I really find that album 2 be bore in almost every way. Mj took advantage of the "video" in the early 80's because musically that album really isnt that good lyrically or musically.




I think everyone over 45 just has ear fatigue from it at this point. It's not that it's not a great record, but how many fucking times have we played it, danced to it, had it on the background, at a party, while making dinner, or whatever?

I know every fucking note on that record, and if I never hear it again, it could be too soon.

I mean, I'll hear it again probably anyway.



Thats true too...im so sick of those songs...Everytime i hear Beat It or Billie Jean or Thriller, i want to punch somebody in the face...anybody...the only song on that lp that has any replay value left, is the criminally underrated and overlooked "Baby Be Mine"
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Reply #9 posted 10/28/23 6:49am

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TrivialPursuit said:



Gooddoctor23 said:


It's funny as I dig the album but as a musician, I really find that album 2 be bore in almost every way. Mj took advantage of the "video" in the early 80's because musically that album really isnt that good lyrically or musically.




I think everyone over 45 just has ear fatigue from it at this point. It's not that it's not a great record, but how many fucking times have we played it, danced to it, had it on the background, at a party, while making dinner, or whatever?

I know every fucking note on that record, and if I never hear it again, it could be too soon.

I mean, I'll hear it again probably anyway.



Thats true too...im so sick of those songs...Everytime i hear Beat It or Billie Jean or Thriller, i want to punch somebody in the face...anybody...the only song on that lp that has any replay value left, is the criminally underrated and overlooked "Baby Be Mine"


I don't want to punch anyone in the face but I kind of agree. And I literally only heard the album in its entirety about a year ago. But I was already so familiar with the likes of Billie Jean and Beat It that kind of just check out whenever they come on. Baby Be Mine is also my favourite song from Thriller.
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Reply #10 posted 10/28/23 10:05am

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It is funny to me, because if MJ were to magically return from the dead..these songs that you are all so tired of would be the same ones sending audiences into histeria at his concerts. Especially those of us in the 40-50 and over crowd. I guess too I think of his entire work as a canon...I can't separate Thriller from say "ABC" or "Earth Song"...its all MJ. If I was tired of one, I would probably be tired of all.

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Reply #11 posted 10/28/23 12:42pm

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Yes my favorite is also Baby Be Mine, however The Lady in My Life is also on my playlist.
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Reply #12 posted 10/28/23 1:13pm

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DonRants said:

It is funny to me, because if MJ were to magically return from the dead..these songs that you are all so tired of would be the same ones sending audiences into histeria at his concerts. Especially those of us in the 40-50 and over crowd. I guess too I think of his entire work as a canon...I can't separate Thriller from say "ABC" or "Earth Song"...its all MJ. If I was tired of one, I would probably be tired of all.



Your point lost all of its legitimacy immediately after MJ magically returned from the dead...stop it, get some help.
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RJOrion said:

the only song on that lp that has any replay value left, is the criminally underrated and overlooked "Baby Be Mine"


AGREED! And "The Lady in My Life" still has merit, especially that version with the extra verse.

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Reply #14 posted 10/28/23 8:04pm

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the only song on that lp that has any replay value left, is the criminally underrated and overlooked "Baby Be Mine"

I think of this song as the poor,lonely track that didn't get the attention that the other songs have gotten biggrin it's one of the two songs that never became a single,but the other one ("The Lady In My Life") at least got some airplay on R&B and quiet storm stations."Baby Be Mine" could have easily been released as a single back then.It's a great song.

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Reply #15 posted 10/29/23 1:41am

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Yes my favorite is also Baby Be Mine, however The Lady in My Life is also on my playlist.


I loved that song until my cousin ruined it for me. She pointed out that the line where he sings "I will love you more each day" sounds like he's saying "I will love you Morris Day" and now I can't unhear it.
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Reply #16 posted 10/29/23 2:44pm

getwild180

I used to think he said that to when I was little lol. Also when he repeated "all over, all over, all over", I thought he was saying I love her, I love her, I love her. Lol
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getwild180 said:

I used to think he said that to when I was little lol. Also when he repeated "all over, all over, all over", I thought he was saying I love her, I love her, I love her. Lol


Hold on. Is he not saying "I love her"? I genuinely thought that's what he was saying lol
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ShellyMcG said:

getwild180 said:
I used to think he said that to when I was little lol. Also when he repeated "all over, all over, all over", I thought he was saying I love her, I love her, I love her. Lol
Hold on. Is he not saying "I love her"? I genuinely thought that's what he was saying lol


During the beginning of those ad-libs at the end, he repeats "lay back with me." BUT, if you listen to what is on either side of that, he's saying:

I want to keep you warm

In my life now.

Let me feel you, baby, all over, all over, all over.

Let me touch you girl, all over, all over, all over.

He's talking to her, not about her. So "I love her" doesn't make sense. The whole song is him singing to her, not about her.

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Reply #19 posted 10/30/23 1:42am

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TrivialPursuit said:



ShellyMcG said:


getwild180 said:
I used to think he said that to when I was little lol. Also when he repeated "all over, all over, all over", I thought he was saying I love her, I love her, I love her. Lol

Hold on. Is he not saying "I love her"? I genuinely thought that's what he was saying lol


During the beginning of those ad-libs at the end, he repeats "lay back with me." BUT, if you listen to what is on either side of that, he's saying:

I want to keep you warm


In my life now.


Let me feel you, baby, all over, all over, all over.


Let me touch you girl, all over, all over, all over.

He's talking to her, not about her. So "I love her" doesn't make sense. The whole song is him singing to her, not about her.



Yeah you're right. I guess I just need to pay more attention.
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Reply #20 posted 10/30/23 2:31am

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"Baby Be Mine" is my fav as well.

It's basically an obscuro deep cut compared to the ubiquitious overplayed other tracks save "The Lady in My Life". If I'm around MJ fans and I bring that up they look at me like Mr. Pretentious.

MJ fans vs. Prince fans gotta have a higher tolerance for replay at the very least. Another reason I hate the comparisons, some MJ songs are like... the alphabet. Counting 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. They're like automatic. I don't even get how people can interpret them on their own volition.

Whereas with Prince the "big hits" aren't even really that notable save 2-3.

Second fav is the "P.Y.T." demo.

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Documentary looks worse than the Spike Lee ones and they wern't great LOL

Still, better then nothing but I hate it when celebs who had nothing to do with MJ, give comments on high profile documentaries like this.

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thesexofit said:

Documentary looks worse than the Spike Lee ones and they wern't great LOL

Still, better than nothing but I hate it when celebs who had nothing to do with MJ, give comments on high profile documentaries like this.


When it premiered last year, it got rave reviews from the audience, though. So, just with one trailer it seems obtuse and unfair to judge it looking worse than the Spike Lee one (which was really good, btw).

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Reply #23 posted 10/31/23 12:16pm

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thesexofit said:

Documentary looks worse than the Spike Lee ones and they wern't great LOL

Still, better than nothing but I hate it when celebs who had nothing to do with MJ, give comments on high profile documentaries like this.


When it premiered last year, it got rave reviews from the audience, though. So, just with one trailer it seems obtuse and unfair to judge it looking worse than the Spike Lee one (which was really good, btw).

Spike Lee did well, but why he bring in his mates like Kobe to talk about MJ? Just like "did you know MJ Kobe?" "Errrm....". assosiates only please. But I see some of the guests are just gonna gush....Iam nitpicking I know, but yeah, ok, Spikes second one was better. Not sure why he off the project?i

This album the biggest in history...deserves real "Classic album" status. We can dream LOL

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thesexofit said:

TrivialPursuit said:


When it premiered last year, it got rave reviews from the audience, though. So, just with one trailer it seems obtuse and unfair to judge it looking worse than the Spike Lee one (which was really good, btw).

Spike Lee did well, but why he bring in his mates like Kobe to talk about MJ? Just like "did you know MJ Kobe?" "Errrm....". assosiates only please. But I see some of the guests are just gonna gush....Iam nitpicking I know, but yeah, ok, Spikes second one was better. Not sure why he off the project?i

This album the biggest in history...deserves real "Classic album" status. We can dream LOL


I don't disagree with any of that. You're spot on.

And I'd love to see VH1 do a two-hour special or even 90-minute Classic Albums episode with Bruce, Quincy, et al breaking down those Thriller segments. Talk about a wet dream.

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Human Nature, PYT as well as Baby Be Mine and Lady In My Life all strong and held up really well for me. Everything from Destiny through to Victory really is MY peak Michael.

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Marrk said:

Human Nature, PYT as well as Baby Be Mine and Lady In My Life all strong and held up really well for me. Everything from Destiny through to Victory really is MY peak Michael.


Triumph is stellar, front to back. Not a bad song on it. I still listen to about twice a year.

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Reply #27 posted 11/02/23 5:21pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



Marrk said:


Human Nature, PYT as well as Baby Be Mine and Lady In My Life all strong and held up really well for me. Everything from Destiny through to Victory really is MY peak Michael.




Triumph is stellar, front to back. Not a bad song on it. I still listen to about twice a year.




Word..."Triumph" is an amazing album forreal
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Reply #28 posted 11/02/23 8:24pm

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Off The Wall is the absolute best Michael Jackson album.That album is a masterpiece! I still have my vinyl copy smile
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I feel like I've heard Thriller enough for one lifetime, unless I myself queue it up.

Most of the album has been on continuous pop/adult contemporary/80s stations since it came out, especially just coming out of Halloween with "Thriller" on heavy rotation.


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