Tina Turner dies aged 83 ...| Sky News

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kitbradley said:

I am not surprised. She had been battling health issues for a while. But still deeply saddened. I adored her. Tina was the consummate live performer for me. No one else came close to the energy she brought on stage.

What kind of health issues?

She always seemed so full of life whenever she was in public. RIP to her.

I loved her so, so very much. My heart really broke when I heard the news today. I had just started doing some work and had to stop. I sat there and just bawled for about 15 minutes.

What a damn life she lived. Humble beginnings, abuse for years, then probably one of the biggest comeback stories we've ever seen in music. The one good point when people like this die is that we have had them in our lives, as part of our mixtapes, our experiences, and our joyous moments.

We not only have an incredible catalog of music, but a history worth telling over and over. One can write songs and be inspirational. But when you go through the shit Anna Mae did, it redefines the story of a phoenix rising from the ashes. It's what becomes a legend most. Not only where they are, where they landed, but how the hell they got there.

If Tina Turner can endure and make it through that... anyone can make it through their stuff, too.

I can only say thank you to someone like her. Thank you for the stories, the insight, the energy, that smile, and the music.

Girl4both said:

Girl4both said:

kitbradley said:

I am not surprised. She had been battling health issues for a while. But still deeply saddened. I adored her. Tina was the consummate live performer for me. No one else came close to the energy she brought on stage.

What kind of health issues?

From wikipedia:

Turner revealed in her 2018 memoir My Love Story that she had suffered multiple life-threatening illnesses. In 2013, three weeks after her wedding to Erwin Bach, she suffered a stroke and had to learn to walk again.

In 2016, she was diagnosed with intestinal cancer. Turner opted for homeopathic remedies to treat her high blood pressure. Her hypertension resulted in damage to her kidneys and eventual kidney failure. Her chances of receiving a kidney were low, and she was urged to start dialysis.
She considered assisted suicide and signed up to be a member of Exit, but Bach offered to donate a kidney for her transplant.
Turner had kidney transplant surgery on April 7, 2017.

Damn, I just finished getting a Tina vinyl collection and having a Tina marathon this weekend.

Tina Turner Dies: ‘Queen of Rock and Roll’ Was 83

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Tina Live in Europe--A Change Is Gonna Come:

https://www.youtube.com/w...5hIGNvbWUg

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I have always loved Tina, she was the Queen of Rock, still is mind you, her passing has broken my heart, this should be a sticky, Rest in Peace Queen Anna Mae Bullock/Tina Turner you were a beautiful soul. You were simply the best! hugs!

Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King are on vacation in Italy w/ their families. CBS Mornings, where King is the lead anchor, had a live remote to reminisce about Tina.

It was noted that Tina had back surgery in February 2023, and added to the cascading health concerns.

In 2019, Oprah went to the hospital in Zurich and saw Tina. She said Tina was "ready to go" and felt she was at the end of her life. Oprah also called Erwin Bach, Tina's husband, an incredible human being because he loved her and cared for her and brought her back from that to become some facsimile of herself again for another few years.

A funnier note: after Oprah and Gayle become close with Tina, they were visiting her in Switzerland. They were having breakfast and Tina said they were going to have scrambled eggs and truffles. Oprah, not knowing any better, said, "Truffles? I don't like chocolate in my eggs," unaware of what truffles actually were. That day, she found out.

There is an extended interview with Gayle King from 2018 for CBS Sunday Morning. She seems in very good health, and it was just after she published My Love Story. So things must have taken a big turn if, by 2019, she was ready to leave this planet and back in the hospital. Her kidney transplant (donated by her husband Erwin) was before all that in April 2017.

You learn ALOT about a person when they die. The outpouring of different people show how in those times we all were not in a BOX. I have seen so many different types of artists that she effected, worked with, toured with, was friends with, shared stages with. People like Lionel Richie, Richard Marx, Sting, The Fixx, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, the stones, Duran Duran, and so many others just showing their love for this woman who broke down walls, barriers, crossed genres, defied age, none of this could happen today, none of this is happening today sad to say.

Tina was a big part of Australian culture. Outside of her music, there was her involvement with Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome and with promoting the NRL Rugby League competition.

The way that probably most surprised her would be the Nutbush Dance - a simple line dance done in a grid pattern to "Nutbush City Limits" that has been done at the vast majority of school dances, wedding receptions, teen dances and B&S balls in Australia since not long after the song came out. The steps are learned by most teenage girls to this very day and can be seen in myriad TikToks.

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She had always said she was bigger in Europe than in the U.S. ,which I thought was a bad look for the U.S. audience. Why weren't we more appreciate of her when it came to concerts and sales? It was mentioned in the documentary.

Then I went to look at her album sales just on Wiki. There's a definite shift after Private Dancer.

Private Dancer:

#3 US (#1 R&B); 5X Platinum

#2 UK; 3X Platinum

Break Every Rule:

#4 US; Platinum

#2 UK; Platinum

Foreign Affair:

#31 US; Gold

#1 UK; 5X Platinum

Wildest Dreams:

#61 US

#4 UK (#1 Swizterland); 2X Platinum (Plat in Swiz)

Twenty Four Seven:
#21 US; Gold

#9 UK (#1 Switzerland); Platinum in both

What's Love Got To Do With It soundtrack

#17 US; Platinum

#1 UK; Platinum

Simply The Best (compilation)

#113 US; Platinum

#2 UK; 8X Platinum (FOR A COMPILATION!)

Oddly, she never had a #1 single in the UK, and "What's Love" is her only #1 in the US.

But that change around Foreign Affair and the movie was a hard shift overseas. I can see why she filmed her concerts overseas instead of here. Rio, Barcelona, Amsterdam, London and the Netherlands were the bulk of her concert videos. I don't know where the Private Dancer show was filmed.

TrivialPursuit said:

She had always said she was bigger in Europe than in the U.S. ,which I thought was a bad look for the U.S. audience. Why weren't we more appreciate of her when it came to concerts and sales? It was mentioned in the documentary.

Then I went to look at her album sales just on Wiki. There's a definite shift after Private Dancer.

Private Dancer:

#3 US (#1 R&B); 5X Platinum

#2 UK; 3X Platinum

Break Every Rule:

#4 US; Platinum

#2 UK; Platinum

Foreign Affair:

#31 US; Gold

#1 UK; 5X Platinum

Wildest Dreams:

#61 US

#4 UK (#1 Swizterland); 2X Platinum (Plat in Swiz)

Twenty Four Seven:
#21 US; Gold

#9 UK (#1 Switzerland); Platinum in both

What's Love Got To Do With It soundtrack

#17 US; Platinum

#1 UK; Platinum

Simply The Best (compilation)

#113 US; Platinum

#2 UK; 8X Platinum (FOR A COMPILATION!)

Oddly, she never had a #1 single in the UK, and "What's Love" is her only #1 in the US.

But that change around Foreign Affair and the movie was a hard shift overseas. I can see why she filmed her concerts overseas instead of here. Rio, Barcelona, Amsterdam, London and the Netherlands were the bulk of her concert videos. I don't know where the Private Dancer show was filmed.

8x platinum for a compilation, wow!

(Amstrdam is the capital of the Netherlands )

JorisE73 said:

(Amstrdam is the capital of the Netherlands )

I was just rattling off the titles of recording locations as listed on her Videography.

TrivialPursuit said:

She had always said she was bigger in Europe than in the U.S. ,which I thought was a bad look for the U.S. audience. Why weren't we more appreciate of her when it came to concerts and sales? It was mentioned in the documentary.

Then I went to look at her album sales just on Wiki. There's a definite shift after Private Dancer.

Private Dancer:

#3 US (#1 R&B); 5X Platinum

#2 UK; 3X Platinum

Break Every Rule:

#4 US; Platinum

#2 UK; Platinum

Foreign Affair:

#31 US; Gold

#1 UK; 5X Platinum

Wildest Dreams:

#61 US

#4 UK (#1 Swizterland); 2X Platinum (Plat in Swiz)

Twenty Four Seven:
#21 US; Gold

#9 UK (#1 Switzerland); Platinum in both

What's Love Got To Do With It soundtrack

#17 US; Platinum

#1 UK; Platinum

Simply The Best (compilation)

#113 US; Platinum

#2 UK; 8X Platinum (FOR A COMPILATION!)

Oddly, she never had a #1 single in the UK, and "What's Love" is her only #1 in the US.

But that change around Foreign Affair and the movie was a hard shift overseas. I can see why she filmed her concerts overseas instead of here. Rio, Barcelona, Amsterdam, London and the Netherlands were the bulk of her concert videos. I don't know where the Private Dancer show was filmed.

When I was a kid in the 80s I used to religiously read Billboard and the charts that used to be on the very last page of each issue of Rolling Stone. The Rolling Stone charts had the top UK I think it was singles and albums, while Billboard had a whole mess of charts for nearly everything but none for the UK (IIRC.) Anyway it always struck me how the British pop charts differed from those in the U.S. and not just in terms of homegrown British talent. There seemed to be black/R&B U.S. music which did much better, if not MUCH better, on the British pop charts then it did in on the U.S. pop charts (I don't mean people like Prince and Michael Jackson both of whom of course were huge pop stars in both countries but people who were solid R&B artists in the U.S. who were fairly big if not huge pop acts in the UK, at least as far as the UK charts would indicate.) This was consistent in my chart reading all throughout the 1980s.

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RIP Queen

Funny how I've listened to Tina non-stop for the past month before she passed--very odd! I was so into her music I actively went looking for not only the new re-issues on vinyl but oldies. For instance, I didn't know that she put out two solo albums in the 70s after she split with Ike that didn't get much airplay apparently; one called "Rough"--with rock/country-rock/disco flavors, according to reviews and another full-fledged disco album called "Love Explosion." I managed to track down an inexpensive LP of "Rough"--her first after splitting with Ike and don't want to hear it until I get the LP. In the meantime, my first listen to the full album version of the Foreign Affair album on LP. Here's to you, Tina! Your music lives on!

I listened to all of Tina's albums just a couple of months ago. I couldn't find the country one at that point, but listened to Acid Queen, Rough, but I think I missed Love Explosion, then dug into the UK tracklisting for Private Dancer plus the bonus tracks. And so on.

Some of her records had different track listings for the UK, so I just went in and changed track numbers on mine. Wildest Dreams has Antonio Bandares on "In Your Wildest Dreams" but it's Barry White on the US version. I think I put Antonio in there. There are also "single" and "soundtrack" versions of "Goldeneye" from that album, and "Whatever You Want" has an alternate mix for the US. I guess I wanted the full Euro-Tina experience.

I'm glad now that I went through her discography and really took in her music like that. I'm even more grateful for it now.

purplethunder3121 said:

hardwork said:

Finally got the "Rough" album (advertised as "like new") until I cleaned it and played it through a few times--now it is Good Plus. After several listens, I think I understand Tina's choices for this album. I think it had more to do where she was in her life than choosing a music direction at the time. IMO only, of course.

purplethunder3121 said:

Finally got the "Rough" album (advertised as "like new") until I cleaned it and played it through a few times--now it is Good Plus. After several listens, I think I understand Tina's choices for this album. I think it had more to do where she was in her life than choosing a music direction at the time. IMO only, of course.

Not totally unrealistic. I don't know how much Rough and Acid Queen was obligatory to pay bills, or all she had before her, or whatever. Acid Queen was just before the divorce. Half of it was written by Ike.

Rough was the first after the divorce.

Both of those records do feel necessarily in viewing her growth as an artist. She was certainly stepping way out of the bluesey stuff Ike wanted to do. Rough feels purposely heavier than anything the Revue did. I like her take on "Sometimes When We Touch."

On another note, I was reminded today of her duet with Rod Stewart, "It Takes Two." And her other song from Mad Max, "Only The Living."

THEN, I was re-reminded that Ace of Base's "Don't Turn Around" is actually a cover of a Tina B-side to "Typical Male" from Break Every Rule (1986).

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