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Thread started 04/30/23 7:45pm

SoulAlive

Donna Summer documentary premieres on HBO Max May 20th

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Reply #1 posted 04/30/23 10:24pm

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I'm so there. I'm not watching the trailer, though. I like to go in totally green and fresh.

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Reply #2 posted 05/02/23 6:49am

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Time to set the DVR. Thanks so much for this post.

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Reply #3 posted 05/02/23 8:35am

JoeBala

Saw it on HBOmax preview and was gonna post about it. Can't wait! Looks great. Also wanna see the Little Richard doc.
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Reply #4 posted 05/02/23 11:33am

SoulAlive

May be a graphic of 1 person and text that says 'HBO ORIGINAL love to love you DONNA SUMMER NEW DOCUMENTARY STREAMING MAY 20 HBoMax'

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Reply #5 posted 05/20/23 2:11pm

SoulAlive

It airs today
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Reply #6 posted 05/20/23 3:53pm

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CNN review

'Love to Love You, Donna ...diva | CNN

Love to Love You, Donna Summer' Documentary Examines Icon's Career –  Rolling Stone

“Intimate” is an overused word in biographical documentaries, but with her daughter, Brooklyn Sudano, serving as co-director “Love to Love You, Donna Summer” more than fits that description, providing an up-close look at the disco diva’s life and astonishing talent, without sugarcoating its thornier aspects. Even in a boom time for musical profiles, this HBO presentation shines brighter than most.

Featuring bountiful clips of Summer performing that take viewers back to the ’70s, garish disco outfits and all, the overall effect is almost immersive. And with extensive access to home movies and interviews with Summer’s children and exes, the deeply personal aspect is evident when Sudano – who shares directing credit with Roger Ross Williams – notes that she’s “trying to figure out the many pieces of who mom was.”

"Love to Love You” opens with Summer as most remember her, crooning the hit used for the title. Elton John discusses the effect of hearing her amped-up disco numbers like “I Feel Love” at a club, with its electronic sound courtesy of composer/producer Giorgio Moroder and raw sexuality, as being intoxicating, saying, “It sounded like no other record.”

Summer had moved to Germany before returning to the US, launching a recording career that would place her in rarefied air in terms of her chart-topping legacy. That gradually included taking control over her career, illustrating her vocal power on songs like “MacArthur Park” and eventually breaking with and suing the company that launched her, Casablanca Records, over a creative dispute, before going on to additional success with David Geffen.

The warts-and-all components include the fact that despite her jaw-dropping range the singer didn’t always have great taste in men, which produced some ugly and violent interludes. Summer also embraced evangelical Christianity later in life – despite the complicating factor of having been molested by a pastor in her youth – and made comments perceived as deriding the gay community that had comprised a significant portion of her fan base in her heyday, triggering feelings of anger and betrayal.

Summer was, in other words, a complex personality, but one who left an enduring musical footprint that made her one of the signature figures of her era. That’s merely magnified by her death in 2012 at the age of 63.

By the time it’s over, “Love to Love You” might not have completely put together the pieces of who Summer was, but it has fostered an appreciation for what she produced, particularly during that inordinately fertile span of hits during the late ’70s.


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Reply #7 posted 05/20/23 6:48pm

SPYZFAN1

Just finished watched it I really enjoyed it. That demo of "Bad Girls" is great.

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Reply #8 posted 05/21/23 8:44am

JoeBala

Will probably watch tonight.
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Reply #9 posted 05/21/23 6:49pm

SoulAlive

just watched it.The home video footage is fun to watch.I feel like they ignored some important albums and songs but I guess they couldn't cover everything.I loved seeing the rare performance clips.Overall,this is a great documentary.If you're a fan,you must see it.

Donna deserves a full biopic.There's a good story there.Her life and career was very interesting.

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Reply #10 posted 05/21/23 11:25pm

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Just wonderful.

I was looking on Wikipedia at her first few post-Casablanca albums and noticed Susannah Melvoin sang backgrounds on Cats Without Claws.

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Reply #11 posted 05/22/23 1:46pm

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Didn't know it was coming on, caught it on the tube and ended up watching the whole thing, pretty impressive. Never realized what a great voice she had nor did I know, until seeing all of that footage, what an entertaining performer she was, even when on the stage all by herself.

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Didn't know she wrote or conceptualized most of her songs and I really dug the whole "singing as a character" aspect of her art. Great documentary.

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Reply #12 posted 05/22/23 6:26pm

SoulAlive

One of my favorite Donna Summer songs is “Walk Away” from the Bad Girls album.A very underrated track! I especially love the second verse…


“I’m sure that I’ll get over you
It’ll take me some time,you see
Next time,there won’t be no next time
Save all my feelings for me”

Wow!! smile

Listen to her albums,folks,and not just the big hits! You will find alot of gems.
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Reply #13 posted 05/22/23 8:58pm

hardwork

That really dark funky demo version of "Bad Girls" during the closing credits tho...

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Reply #14 posted 05/23/23 12:23am

SoulAlive

hardwork said:

That really dark funky demo version of "Bad Girls" during the closing credits tho...

Donna Summer - Bad Girls ... - YouTube headbang

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Reply #15 posted 05/23/23 9:09am

Cinny

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They made very good use of archival footage and guest audio, instead of video of interviews with people around her.

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Reply #16 posted 05/23/23 11:19am

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SoulAlive said:

hardwork said:

That really dark funky demo version of "Bad Girls" during the closing credits tho...

Donna Summer - Bad Girls ... - YouTube headbang



Thx SoulAlive! I like the demo better than the original.

Watched this and it gave me more appreciation of her and her music.

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Reply #17 posted 05/23/23 12:30pm

JoeBala

I liked it, but thought it was too short and should have been 2 parts like the Elvis doc on HBO. No real focus on her music more of family production, which is fine. Hopefully there will be more docs on her like Bowie and more as an artist. Her daughters look beautiful as ever.
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Reply #18 posted 05/23/23 1:15pm

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SoulAlive said:



hardwork said:


That really dark funky demo version of "Bad Girls" during the closing credits tho...





Donna Summer - Bad Girls ... - YouTube headbang


Groovy demo. I do prefer the demo version from the "Bad Girls" deluxe CD. However I will be adding this on to my digital version. I love demos!
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Reply #19 posted 05/23/23 5:35pm

SoulAlive

Interestingly,whenever her Casablanca albums are remastered,we always hear that there are no “demos or outtakes” available.I suspect that there are,but for whatever reason,they can’t or won’t release them.Nice to hear this “Bad Girls” demo though.
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Reply #20 posted 05/23/23 6:40pm

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SoulAlive said:

Interestingly,whenever her Casablanca albums are remastered,we always hear that there are no “demos or outtakes” available.I suspect that there are,but for whatever reason,they can’t or won’t release them.Nice to hear this “Bad Girls” demo though.


Yeah, but that's sorta bullshit. Because hasn't KISS released demos of songs on their past remasters or whatever? I would think it's the artists who have those tapes, if they do exist. Universal owns them now so who knows where all that stuff disappeared to.

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Reply #21 posted 05/23/23 7:51pm

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yeah,the demos definitely exist biggrin I wish we could get them.It sucks buying a remastered album with absolutely no bonus tracks,lol
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Reply #22 posted 05/24/23 10:37am

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I am such a child. I giggled so hard at the opening. After grumbling so much about having to upload another app due to corporate bs. I have always adored Donna.
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Reply #23 posted 05/25/23 11:53am

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I loved it. It was very emotional.

Interesting the recurring theme to me was "we didn't talk about" insert anything

Had a great ride to work this morning with that Bad Girls demo, holy moly

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Reply #24 posted 05/25/23 12:23pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

SoulAlive said:

Interestingly,whenever her Casablanca albums are remastered,we always hear that there are no “demos or outtakes” available.I suspect that there are,but for whatever reason,they can’t or won’t release them.Nice to hear this “Bad Girls” demo though.


Yeah, but that's sorta bullshit. Because hasn't KISS released demos of songs on their past remasters or whatever? I would think it's the artists who have those tapes, if they do exist. Universal owns them now so who knows where all that stuff disappeared to.

I think there is a bit of a difference in the ownership, mainly because Gene Simmons after some very early manager issues, they own everything, price everything, master, record, have control of their vault etc... I don't think Donna had this available to her, just a hunch.

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Reply #25 posted 05/25/23 8:15pm

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SolaceAHA said:

I think there is a bit of a difference in the ownership, mainly because Gene Simmons after some very early manager issues, they own everything, price everything, master, record, have control of their vault etc... I don't think Donna had this available to her, just a hunch.


Donna owned her music well before she died. That's in the documentary, too. It's one reason there wasn't a plethora of Greatest Hits packages, etc. She wanted to control what went out under her name.

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Reply #26 posted 05/26/23 7:02am

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They need to put Theme From The Deep (Down, Deep Inside) on streaming, its my absolute favorite

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Reply #27 posted 05/27/23 9:01pm

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SoulAlive said:

yeah,the demos definitely exist biggrin I wish we could get them.It sucks buying a remastered album with absolutely no bonus tracks,lol


I was in contact with someone who used to work for a reissue label. As far as demos and unreleased tracks, if the original label is in possession of anything, someone at the label has to go into the "vaults" and physically find the tapes. Many times, no one at the label is interested or willing to take the time to take on the task and its especially true when it comes to reissues for black artists.

Then there are times when the labels really dont have any extras. The artists or someone else not associated with the label will have demos and unreleased songs. Often times these folks are not consulted for reissues so bonus tracks are limited.

I bet there are demos for every song on the Bad Girls album but maybe the problem is who owns them?
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