independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > New MJ leaks
« Previous topic  Next topic »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 02/22/23 11:28am

MrSharon

New MJ leaks

A few weeks ago a lot of unreleased MJ songs and videos surfaced on the internet.zmost of it is on YouTube but I managed to find 6 songs in high quality through various sites

Streetwalker-demo.To me sounds a lot better than the overproduced version that's on the BAD special edition
Family thing -first time surfaced in high quality.Its catchy
Faces-this one is very good to me.MJ talks for a few minutes with a inspirational massage followed by awesome beat reminense of Sadeness by enigma?
Chicago 1945- this one is the most memorable and the chorus stays in your head."Never to be found again...never to be found again!! Chicagoooo"
Someone put your hand out demo
Deep in the night



Here is the complete list of what's leaked

material available in the leak, although much of it has already been leaked before.

I hope that justice can be done and that (or those) responsible pay for the damages to Brad Sundberg, longtime collaborator and friend of Michael Jackson.

Demos, Alt. Versions and Outtakes
Chicago 1945 (Master)

Deep in the Night (Mix 2)

Family Thing (8/19/93 Mix)

Faces (9/14/94 Mix)

The Verdict (5/10/94 Bass Drums & Groove)

Streetwalker (Rough Mix)

Keep The Faith (Studio Demo)

Superfly Sister (Demo Intro)

I Can't Help It (1979 Demo)

Dangerous (Demo)

Earth Song (Demo)

For All Time (Demo)

Heal The World (Demo)

Jam (Demo)

Keep The Faith (Demo)

Willing and Waiting (Writer's Demo)

Someone Put Your Hand Out (Early Demo)

Smooth Criminal (Moscow Edit/Demo)

Give In To Me (Recording Session)

Heal The World (Alt. Mix)

Scream (Alt. Mix)

Childhood (8/24/94 Alt. Take)

Jam (Alt. Mix)

Smooth Criminal (Slow)

Multitracks and Stems
2 Bad

Jam

This Place Hotel

Billie Jean

I Want You Back

Bad

Human Nature

Stranger In Moscow

I Just Can't Stop Loving You

You Are Not Alone

Off The Wall

Smooth Criminal

Can You Feel It

Thriller

Ghosts

Heal The World

Scream

Black Or White

Get On The Floor

Much Too Soon

Workin' Day And Night

State of Shock

Pretty Young Thing

Instrumentals and Acapellas
Billie Jean (Acapella Dry and Wet, Instrumental and TV Track)

Dangerous (Acapella Dry and Wet, Instrumental and TV Track)

Earth Song (Acapella Dry and Wet, Instrumental and TV Track)

In The Closet (Acapella Dry and Wet, Instrumental and TV Track)

Smooth Criminal (Acapella Dry and Wet, Instrumental and TV Track)

The Way You Make Me Feel (Acapella and Instrumental)

Will You Be There (Instrumental)

Remixes
2 Bad (Italian Mix) + Killer Queen + Ghosts

Black Or White (Nick* Rough Mix)

Todo Mi Amor Eres Tú + Jam (Mix)

In The Closet (Helsinki Edit)

Man In The Mirror (Nick* Instrumental Mix)

Stranger in Moscow (St. Petersburg Mix)

MJ Megamix

Misc
Earth Song (This Is It Intro)

Heal The World (Child Talk)

History (Voices)

HIStory (Vinyl Album)

Liberian Girl (BG Vocals)

The Way You Make Me Feel (Grammy Version)

Amanda Edits
I didn't quite understand what he means by these, but I found a few:

Will You Be There

Streetwalker

Another Part Of Me

In The Closet

Jam

Keep The Faith

Liberian Girl

Monkey Business

Smooth Criminal

Superfly Sister

Who Is It

Another Part Of Me
[Edited 2/22/23 11:39am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 02/22/23 12:39pm

ShellyMcG

Chicago 1945 is now my favourite Michael Jackson song. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 02/22/23 2:01pm

MrSharon

ShellyMcG said:

Chicago 1945 is now my favourite Michael Jackson song. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention.


Your welcome
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 02/22/23 6:15pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

I can't find the new leaks anywhere.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 02/22/23 8:14pm

MrSharon

TrivialPursuit said:

I can't find the new leaks anywhere.


They are on YouTube

Finding them as downloads is a challenge though
[Edited 2/22/23 20:14pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 02/22/23 9:36pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

MrSharon said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I can't find the new leaks anywhere.

They are on YouTube Finding them as downloads is a challenge though


Roger that.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 02/23/23 11:15am

nayroo2002

avatar

ShellyMcG said:

Chicago 1945 is now my favourite Michael Jackson song. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention.

""Chicago 1945" is a(n) unreleased song by Michael Jackson. It was written by Michael Jackson and Steven Porcaro and was intended for The Jacksons album 'Victory'."

.


"The sad thing is that everybody could have heard it by now if only the record label had been willing to do right by it. Porcaro was approached about the song for Xscape album, but he didn’t give his permission to use it. “It seems songs are going straight to remix these days,” he told us. It was obvious this approach didn’t sit well with him. And while a fan in me would have loved to be able to buy the song and have it in my collection, I felt nothing but respect for Porcaro’s position. I thought that as a musician and a songwriter, he must understand how much the integrity of a song means to the artist. And as a colleague of Michael, he undoubtedly knows how much Michael cared about his compositions. “Less is more” was a principle he, too, cited as very important for MJ and Quincy. “Chicago 1945” is a great song that certainly doesn’t need any “contemporizing” and deserves to be heard and appreciated in its own right.

Porcaro cannot release the song either without the approval of the Michael Jackson Estate, so for now the song remains in a deadlock. We can only hope that a time will come when Michael’s creative partners, his estate executors and the record label are able to see eye to eye about how the unreleased material should be handled. And for now we, fans, will take what we can get and be grateful for every opportunity to hear the original music Michael left behind. Thank you, Mr. Porcaro, it was an honor to meet you and hear all the stories and music you shared with us that evening."

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 02/23/23 1:14pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

Welp found most of them. "Chicago 1945" is a banger of a track. Just WOW. One of his best written songs ever.

Even the demo level version of "Streetwalker" and (especially) "Keep The Faith" (one of my all time favorite tracks) are so fucking good.

One thing I found myself doing (again) was listening to his acapella stuff. It's just so dang good. You listen to him on something like "Remember The Time," "The Way You Make Me Feel," or "In the Closet" acapella, and it's soooo fucking good.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 02/24/23 9:36am

Se7en

avatar

Interesting song . . . the background music is a bit generic 1980's but nice to hear.

In a way, the song is not "big enough" for a proper MJ song. It would've been filler on Bad.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 02/24/23 9:38am

Se7en

avatar

^^^

Correction: I see now that it was meant for Victory. It might have actually fit on that album.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 02/24/23 11:29am

TrivialPursuit

avatar

Se7en said:

^^^

Correction: I see now that it was meant for Victory. It might have actually fit on that album.


I thought about this. I can see why it didn't end up on Victory. "Chicago 1945" feels more cinematic. Nothing on Victory has that feeling, IMO. It reminds me of the mood of something like "Who Is It."

I kind of wonder if MJ knew it was a really good song, and pulled it from Victory consideration because he simply wanted it for himself. While I enjoy Victory a lot, it's not a majestic album, it's not cinematic or even dramatic. They're edgy (for the times) pop/soul songs. "Chicago 1945" would've stood out like a sore thumb on there if it were inserted anywhere on it as is.

Although, I'm quite willing to drop a Randy or that one Tito song in favor of it in the tracklist. Victory already suffers from a lot of personalities. It sounds like a compilation album rather than a cohesive set of songs. Sorta glad MJ didn't put it on there.

Hell, issue it as a b-side to "Smooth Criminal," that's where it should've been.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 02/24/23 4:48pm

MrSharon

Se7en said:

Interesting song . . . the background music is a bit generic 1980's but nice to hear.

In a way, the song is not "big enough" for a proper MJ song. It would've been filler on Bad.


It would've been a lot better than "Just good friends".
Thats the only weak track on BAD imo
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 02/24/23 5:10pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

MrSharon said:

Se7en said:

Interesting song . . . the background music is a bit generic 1980's but nice to hear.

In a way, the song is not "big enough" for a proper MJ song. It would've been filler on Bad.

It would've been a lot better than "Just good friends". Thats the only weak track on BAD imo


I'd agree. Take out "Just Good Friends" and "Speed Demon," and add "Chicago 1945" and "Streetwalker" and you got yourself an album. Let those other two songs be b-sides.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 02/24/23 7:14pm

MrSharon

TrivialPursuit said:



MrSharon said:


Se7en said:

Interesting song . . . the background music is a bit generic 1980's but nice to hear.

In a way, the song is not "big enough" for a proper MJ song. It would've been filler on Bad.



It would've been a lot better than "Just good friends". Thats the only weak track on BAD imo


I'd agree. Take out "Just Good Friends" and "Speed Demon," and add "Chicago 1945" and "Streetwalker" and you got yourself an album. Let those other two songs be b-sides.



Speed demon is one of my favorites.
I would take out "I just can't stop loving you"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 02/25/23 11:04am

TrivialPursuit

avatar

MrSharon said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I'd agree. Take out "Just Good Friends" and "Speed Demon," and add "Chicago 1945" and "Streetwalker" and you got yourself an album. Let those other two songs be b-sides.

Speed demon is one of my favorites. I would take out "I just can't stop loving you"


Eeehhhhh, I don't know man. I'd agree that IJCSLY is a bad choice (no pun) for a lead single (kind of the way "If I Was Your Girlfriend" wasn't the best choice for a debut album single). But it belongs on that record.

I sort rethought the songs I'd pull, and since it was "Another Part of Me" vs "Streetwalker" when deciding the tracklist back then, there's where I'd make the replacement. I could nix "Just Good Friends" altogether (or add it as a bonus track on the end).

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel (with Grammy intro)

Chicago 1945

Speed Demon

Liberian Girl

Streetwalker

I Just Can't Stop Loving You

Man in the Mirror

Dirty Diana

Smooth Criminal

Leave Me Alone

Another Part of Me (bonus)

Just Good Friends (bonus)

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 02/25/23 1:06pm

MrSharon

TrivialPursuit said:



MrSharon said:


TrivialPursuit said:



I'd agree. Take out "Just Good Friends" and "Speed Demon," and add "Chicago 1945" and "Streetwalker" and you got yourself an album. Let those other two songs be b-sides.



Speed demon is one of my favorites. I would take out "I just can't stop loving you"


Eeehhhhh, I don't know man. I'd agree that IJCSLY is a bad choice (no pun) for a lead single (kind of the way "If I Was Your Girlfriend" wasn't the best choice for a debut album single). But it belongs on that record.

I sort rethought the songs I'd pull, and since it was "Another Part of Me" vs "Streetwalker" when deciding the tracklist back then, there's where I'd make the replacement. I could nix "Just Good Friends" altogether (or add it as a bonus track on the end).

Bad


The Way You Make Me Feel (with Grammy intro)


Chicago 1945


Speed Demon


Liberian Girl



Streetwalker


I Just Can't Stop Loving You


Man in the Mirror


Dirty Diana


Smooth Criminal



Leave Me Alone


Another Part of Me (bonus)


Just Good Friends (bonus)



Now your cooking!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 02/25/23 1:53pm

MrSharon

Anyone else eating sounds on the track "someone put your hand out" demo??
It's around the 3:25 .it sounds like MJ is eating popcorn and singing at the same time
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 03/02/23 6:09am

Ramzoo

avatar

One good surprise 4 me is "Someone In The Dark (Closing Version)". I just realized that this version was included in "The E.T. Storybook".

"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 03/02/23 8:55am

MrSharon

Ramzoo said:

One good surprise 4 me is "Someone In The Dark (Closing Version)". I just realized that this version was included in "The E.T. Storybook".



That's a new one to me hmmm
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 03/03/23 1:40am

Ramzoo

avatar

Too busy (we can keep up though 4 new music!) with Prince's music (huge fan since 84'), which may explain this discovery. I used to like MJ's music but as he wasn't as profilic, talented as our beloved Prince...

On top of that MJ was a kind of weird at the end, not playing any instrument, lip syncing sometimes.

My best MJ's songs R "The Lady In My Life" (the extended version should have appeared on Thriller 40), "She's Out Of My Life", "Someone Put Your Hand Out" & "Smile".

"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 03/03/23 1:50am

MrSharon

Ramzoo said:

Too busy (we can keep up though 4 new music!) with Prince's music (huge fan since 84'), which may explain this discovery. I used to like MJ's music but as he wasn't as profilic, talented as our beloved Prince...


On top of that MJ was a kind of weird at the end, not playing any instrument, lip syncing sometimes.


My best MJ's songs R "The Lady In My Life" (the extended version should have appeared on Thriller 40), "She's Out Of My Life", "Someone Put Your Hand Out" & "Smile".


What do you think of "The Way u love me"?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 03/06/23 1:53am

Ramzoo

avatar

It's indeed a good song but not one of my favorites.

Another good one "Love Never Felt So Good"....

"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 03/06/23 7:47pm

Gooddoctor23

Interesting.

I find most of his leaked tracks lifeless.

Kool 2 hear though.

I do like Monkey Business. Nice.

[Edited 3/6/23 20:00pm]

Graycap23 was ME!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 03/08/23 11:25am

TrivialPursuit

avatar

MrSharon said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel

Chicago 1945

Speed Demon

Liberian Girl

Streetwalker

I Just Can't Stop Loving You

Man in the Mirror

Dirty Diana

Smooth Criminal

Leave Me Alone

Another Part of Me (bonus)

Just Good Friends (bonus)

Now your cooking!!


Actually giving this a test run today.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 03/09/23 9:41am

Se7en

avatar

MrSharon said:

Se7en said:

Interesting song . . . the background music is a bit generic 1980's but nice to hear.

In a way, the song is not "big enough" for a proper MJ song. It would've been filler on Bad.

It would've been a lot better than "Just good friends". Thats the only weak track on BAD imo


I can see that - I think he wanted the style of duet that he'd had with Paul McCartney or even Mick Jagger. Just this time with Stevie Wonder.

It's not a horrible song, but should've been a B-side. "Leave Me Alone" wasn't even on the CD I had, it was only added later.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 03/14/23 11:09am

motownlover

TrivialPursuit said:

Welp found most of them. "Chicago 1945" is a banger of a track. Just WOW. One of his best written songs ever.

Even the demo level version of "Streetwalker" and (especially) "Keep The Faith" (one of my all time favorite tracks) are so fucking good.

One thing I found myself doing (again) was listening to his acapella stuff. It's just so dang good. You listen to him on something like "Remember The Time," "The Way You Make Me Feel," or "In the Closet" acapella, and it's soooo fucking good.



I absolutely love Chicago 45, I think it is one of if not his best song not making a official album. But the lyrics seems so incoherent at times, singing about Joe DiMaggio going to 3 girls disappeared last night. I remember reading about this song for like 20 years ago and it was always full of praise. I'm 3 months it went from recorded in the Brad Sunberg seminar to leaked HQ
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 03/14/23 11:12am

motownlover

TrivialPursuit said:



Se7en said:


^^^

Correction: I see now that it was meant for Victory. It might have actually fit on that album.




I thought about this. I can see why it didn't end up on Victory. "Chicago 1945" feels more cinematic. Nothing on Victory has that feeling, IMO. It reminds me of the mood of something like "Who Is It."

I kind of wonder if MJ knew it was a really good song, and pulled it from Victory consideration because he simply wanted it for himself. While I enjoy Victory a lot, it's not a majestic album, it's not cinematic or even dramatic. They're edgy (for the times) pop/soul songs. "Chicago 1945" would've stood out like a sore thumb on there if it were inserted anywhere on it as is.

Although, I'm quite willing to drop a Randy or that one Tito song in favor of it in the tracklist. Victory already suffers from a lot of personalities. It sounds like a compilation album rather than a cohesive set of songs. Sorta glad MJ didn't put it on there.

Hell, issue it as a b-side to "Smooth Criminal," that's where it should've been.




I think he did keep things for his solo albums. If you look at unauthorized interview 83 he talks about Liberian girl! And he lights up talking about Buffalo Bill. And I'm sure he liked this song too, I even read he revisited it for Bad HIStory and Invincible
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 03/14/23 12:09pm

motownlover

nayroo2002 said:



ShellyMcG said:


Chicago 1945 is now my favourite Michael Jackson song. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention.

""Chicago 1945" is a(n) unreleased song by Michael Jackson. It was written by Michael Jackson and Steven Porcaro and was intended for The Jacksons album 'Victory'."


.




"The sad thing is that everybody could have heard it by now if only the record label had been willing to do right by it. Porcaro was approached about the song for Xscape album, but he didn’t give his permission to use it. “It seems songs are going straight to remix these days,” he told us. It was obvious this approach didn’t sit well with him. And while a fan in me would have loved to be able to buy the song and have it in my collection, I felt nothing but respect for Porcaro’s position. I thought that as a musician and a songwriter, he must understand how much the integrity of a song means to the artist. And as a colleague of Michael, he undoubtedly knows how much Michael cared about his compositions. “Less is more” was a principle he, too, cited as very important for MJ and Quincy. “Chicago 1945” is a great song that certainly doesn’t need any “contemporizing” and deserves to be heard and appreciated in its own right.


Porcaro cannot release the song either without the approval of the Michael Jackson Estate, so for now the song remains in a deadlock. We can only hope that a time will come when Michael’s creative partners, his estate executors and the record label are able to see eye to eye about how the unreleased material should be handled. And for now we, fans, will take what we can get and be grateful for every opportunity to hear the original music Michael left behind. Thank you, Mr. Porcaro, it was an honor to meet you and hear all the stories and music you shared with us that evening."




I'm pretty sure Porcaro has been in talks with the estate recently. The song is probably going to be used for an anniversary album, because he does not want it to be mixed
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > New MJ leaks