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Thread started 07/05/22 9:00am

SolaceAHA

The ADELE saga continues

First of all, I'm not a fan, but i respect her talent. However I really think some of these artists today need to get it together or stay away from social media and all that 100%. She is now talking about "brutal" backlash she faced from cancelling a whole residency the night before opening, the blame was COVID and she claims half of her crew still has it? Really? She does though say she stands by her decisions to cancel because the shows werent good enough? Now this to me is where it's looking like BS with COVID blaming. It seems its more of her fears to be on that stage, then her crew having covid, and if that is the issue then she needs to step away or find a way to cope with that stage fright if it is. But to complain about backlash on how you cancelled a whole tour in Vegas a night before when those Vegas shows are ALWAYS tourists making plans etc...and you have a history of doing this, I am sorry for any issues she is having, anxiety whatever it may be, but if thats the fact, dont tour.

Adele on 'brutal' Las Veg...today.com)

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Reply #1 posted 07/05/22 11:06am

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Reply #2 posted 07/05/22 2:46pm

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Adele has plainly stated that the show isn't ready, not up to her standards, and she was delaying it until it was right. There were also delivery delays, which could be sets or anything else related.

She clearly doesn't have stage fright or something because she just played to an amazing crowd in Hyde Park.

The dates for Vegas are still TBA.

I'm more wondering why a non-fan is so up in their feelings about something about which they claim to not give two shits.

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Reply #3 posted 07/05/22 4:00pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Adele has plainly stated that the show isn't ready, not up to her standards, and she was delaying it until it was right. There were also delivery delays, which could be sets or anything else related.

She clearly doesn't have stage fright or something because she just played to an amazing crowd in Hyde Park.

The dates for Vegas are still TBA.

I'm more wondering why a non-fan is so up in their feelings about something about which they claim to not give two shits.

On top of all that Adele has seemed to be over it with this last rollout.

She pretty much said as such.

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Reply #4 posted 07/05/22 5:14pm

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CynicKill said:

On top of all that Adele has seemed to be over it with this last rollout.

She pretty much said as such.


Yeah, but it would be pretty cool to have a residency. She's richer than God anyway, what's a little more to pile on?

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Reply #5 posted 07/06/22 7:26am

SolaceAHA

TrivialPursuit said:

Adele has plainly stated that the show isn't ready, not up to her standards, and she was delaying it until it was right. There were also delivery delays, which could be sets or anything else related.

She clearly doesn't have stage fright or something because she just played to an amazing crowd in Hyde Park.

The dates for Vegas are still TBA.

I'm more wondering why a non-fan is so up in their feelings about something about which they claim to not give two shits.

I'm saying why is it "News" seeing you crying on your Instagram Story that is what I am saying, being a fan of someone or not isn't the point, It's the fact that the artist is complaing about backlash from "fans" and she did something that totally screwed them and then went into silent mode, has everyone been refunded? or is this a case like with some artists/venues holding the money till they figure it out. Thats what I am saying, this is not $10 club tickets to see a no name band who cancels out and then reschedules the show, I dont know the price of these tickets but I doubt with a vegas show they are under a hundred, and then factor in no one who goes to these Vegas things lives there, this not a NYC show where peeps hop on the subway. So what I am saying is, she shouldnt be surprised about backlash, I mean be serious now. Look how people were bitching about PRINCE and the Crystal Ball fiasco

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Reply #6 posted 07/06/22 9:16pm

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Well people do get highly upset when they're concerts get canceled. She's long from the 1st celeb to meet the wrath of fans.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


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Reply #7 posted 07/06/22 10:53pm

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SolaceAHA said:

I'm saying why is it "News" seeing you crying on your Instagram Story that is what I am saying, being a fan of someone or not isn't the point, It's the fact that the artist is complaing about backlash from "fans" and she did something that totally screwed them and then went into silent mode, has everyone been refunded? or is this a case like with some artists/venues holding the money till they figure it out. Thats what I am saying, this is not $10 club tickets to see a no name band who cancels out and then reschedules the show, I dont know the price of these tickets but I doubt with a vegas show they are under a hundred, and then factor in no one who goes to these Vegas things lives there, this not a NYC show where peeps hop on the subway. So what I am saying is, she shouldnt be surprised about backlash, I mean be serious now. Look how people were bitching about PRINCE and the Crystal Ball fiasco


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Reply #8 posted 07/07/22 9:57am

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Why in the hell don't you like Adele? Starting to think she has stage fright and won't admit it.

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Reply #9 posted 07/07/22 2:29pm

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She absolutely has said that she has had stage fright, and that was one of many factors that led her to take a long hiatus from touring. Now, this is not to say it is a direct reason for her delay now. Perhaps it could be indirectly related in that she feels pressure/anxiety for the show to be perfect, which is hard to ever achieve. In any case, I wish people would just get a life and stop either idolizing or trashing the musicians they thought they like. It reminds me how Billie Eillish lost 10,000,000 followers within a week because she did some glam photos for a magazine. Social media seems to bring out the borderline persosnality tendencies in so many people.

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Reply #10 posted 07/07/22 2:39pm

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gandorb said:

She absolutely has said that she has had stage fright, and that was one of many factors that led her to take a long hiatus from touring. Now, this is not to say it is a direct reason for her delay now. Perhaps it could be indirectly related in that she feels pressure/anxiety for the show to be perfect, which is hard to ever achieve. In any case, I wish people would just get a life and stop either idolizing or trashing the musicians they thought they like. It reminds me how Billie Eillish lost 10,000,000 followers within a week because she did some glam photos for a magazine. Social media seems to bring out the borderline persosnality tendencies in so many people.

Adele already lamented on the state of the industry in the streaming era so there's that.

Beyonce's new record was only out for three days before people were already asking if it was a flop or not. Same with Cardi B.

That really tells you how off kilter everything is right now, and possibly why even Adele has a sort of FU attitude lately.

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Reply #11 posted 07/07/22 4:13pm

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saga:

any narrative or legend of heroic exploits.

Barbra Streisand had stage fright for decades. It was 27 years between her tours (aside from a couple of Vegas appearances). When she sang "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" with Neil Diamond (who she went to school with as. child), at the 22nd Grammays, she was terrified. You can tell when she walks out she'd rather not be there in front of folks.

So if Adele has stage fright, so be it. Hell, my anxiety took me over and I stopped playing piano at a church because the piano was on stage in front of 450 people every week.

I don't believe stage fright was the main reason she hasn't toured. Her touring schedule isn't that unusual. That's not to say she doesn't have stage fright to a degree. But her touring doesn't support that in the past.


Michael Jackson had even longer spaces between tours. 1987 Bad, 1992 Dangerous, 1996 History, 1999 MJ & Friends, then the 2001 30th Anniversary show. That's 4-5 years between tours. How is Adele taking 5 years off to get married, have a child, then divorced, grieve that and write music about it not an even more viable option as to why she kept her ass out of the public and off a stage???

Adele's just going to do things her way, stay out of the press a lot, release amazing music every few years but not back-to-back-to-back. Frankly, I kinda like that. There's no burn out. It makes the albums special, unique. Time passes, new experiences are had, and it feels very pointed and purposeful, not just a reason to do something.

By the way, to call something a "saga" is hyberole. It's as if it's some big, long, ongoing dramatic moment. That is simply untrue. This is a woman living her life. And because of her immense talent and success, it makes her a target for people to try and side-eye demean her by using words like "saga."

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Reply #12 posted 07/08/22 3:29am

SolaceAHA

TrivialPursuit said:

saga:

any narrative or legend of heroic exploits.

Barbra Streisand had stage fright for decades. It was 27 years between her tours (aside from a couple of Vegas appearances). When she sang "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" with Neil Diamond (who she went to school with as. child), at the 22nd Grammays, she was terrified. You can tell when she walks out she'd rather not be there in front of folks.

So if Adele has stage fright, so be it. Hell, my anxiety took me over and I stopped playing piano at a church because the piano was on stage in front of 450 people every week.

I don't believe stage fright was the main reason she hasn't toured. Her touring schedule isn't that unusual. That's not to say she doesn't have stage fright to a degree. But her touring doesn't support that in the past.


Michael Jackson had even longer spaces between tours. 1987 Bad, 1992 Dangerous, 1996 History, 1999 MJ & Friends, then the 2001 30th Anniversary show. That's 4-5 years between tours. How is Adele taking 5 years off to get married, have a child, then divorced, grieve that and write music about it not an even more viable option as to why she kept her ass out of the public and off a stage???

Adele's just going to do things her way, stay out of the press a lot, release amazing music every few years but not back-to-back-to-back. Frankly, I kinda like that. There's no burn out. It makes the albums special, unique. Time passes, new experiences are had, and it feels very pointed and purposeful, not just a reason to do something.

By the way, to call something a "saga" is hyberole. It's as if it's some big, long, ongoing dramatic moment. That is simply untrue. This is a woman living her life. And because of her immense talent and success, it makes her a target for people to try and side-eye demean her by using words like "saga."

Again no one is denying her talent as an artist or wanting to do what she wants, I mean thats the point of you being an artist is that you are still what you want and not caring where the stuff charts, or how it sells etc... BUT if that is her attitude then backlash should not bother you to the point of a instagram story/video of you crying and furthering the narrative. It's often times some of these artists bring the drama to themselves and then cannot react to it, which is why many of them should have nothing to do with Social Media, since most of it is all about people throwing stuff at you, commenting from afar etc...and MANY of these newer artists are not able to shake it off, or just simply ignore most of it. The rise in problems with anxieties and depressions is all in line with the rise of social media, the two go hand in hand, it is not an overall beneficial thing. When the original cancelling of her residency came up a day before her opening and the entire thing was cancelled, it was mainly said to be about Covid, now concerts are being cancelled, rescheduled, moved, refunded all the time now, that is the new normal, but to say some of your crew is still battling Covid? its almost six months now since the cancelled dates. If you are going to be vague about an incident then dont be surprised at the responses, yes shows get cancelled all the time now, even full tours though that hardly is happening now, but maybe you put someone in charge to figure these things out prior to going on a tour or residency which is not a tour its a run of shows in one place. The touring and concert industry which was/is all that artists really have for any forms of revenue at this point, is suffering to slowly get back together, which is why as an artist you need to be prepared, bands now are taking road crew with them and some road techs learn the set, just in case say "the drummer" gets COVID and has to miss a few shows, you dont cancel out, you fill in that space, you just have to unless its something totally not replaceable. And its not demeaning to call it a saga because its 100% being played ou that way, the dates from what I recall were in January to start, they were cancelled the night before, then came the reasoning and of course people were pissed for losing out. But again we are six months down the line and to my knowledge from what I have heard the dates are not rescheduled and there has been no communication, now again this is fine if dates are cancelled, and people are refunded, but where they? some venues like to hold it till there is a new date(s) which if the artist is not communicating about it then there lies the issue.

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Reply #13 posted 07/08/22 5:59am

SolaceAHA

CynicKill said:

gandorb said:

She absolutely has said that she has had stage fright, and that was one of many factors that led her to take a long hiatus from touring. Now, this is not to say it is a direct reason for her delay now. Perhaps it could be indirectly related in that she feels pressure/anxiety for the show to be perfect, which is hard to ever achieve. In any case, I wish people would just get a life and stop either idolizing or trashing the musicians they thought they like. It reminds me how Billie Eillish lost 10,000,000 followers within a week because she did some glam photos for a magazine. Social media seems to bring out the borderline persosnality tendencies in so many people.

Adele already lamented on the state of the industry in the streaming era so there's that.

Beyonce's new record was only out for three days before people were already asking if it was a flop or not. Same with Cardi B.

That really tells you how off kilter everything is right now, and possibly why even Adele has a sort of FU attitude lately.

Well thats all on social media and sadly todays reporters, journalists, interviewers, etc...are ALL based in that mentality of clicks and headline grabbing. Fact is with streaming you cant tell a hit or a miss because its nonsense at this point, also Beyonce is an Established artist she is also considered OLD sorry folks she is a few years into that "old" label on her, thats just a fact at how primarily the USA works and thinks in media, somehow you can be an actor or actress and do movies that no one sees and they are touted as your best work, but as musicians, you are told "why dont you retire already" .

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Reply #14 posted 07/11/22 7:19pm

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Adele is ridiculously overrated...
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Reply #15 posted 07/25/22 10:31am

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Well, here's a new chapter in the alleged "SAGA" of Adele:


Adele has announced rescheduled dates for her “Weekends With Adele” Las Vegas residency, which was abruptly postponed the day before it was scheduled to begin in January. The new dates — including one on Christmas Eve — will take place at the Colosseum at Caesar’s Palace in Las Vegas and begin November 18; they are listed below. In addition to the 24 rescheduled shows, 8 new shows have also been announced. The residency will now run through March 25, 2023.

..... Access will be limited with priority given to fans who held tickets for the original show dates or had previously registered and been waitlisted for the “Weekends With Adele” Verified Fan Presale. Eligible fans will receive an email invitation from Ticketmaster on Wednesday, August 3.

“Words can’t explain how ecstatic I am to finally be able to announce these rescheduled shows. I truly was heartbroken to have to cancel them,” she wrote in an Instagram message posted Monday. “But after what feels like an eternity of figuring out logistics for the show that I really want to deliver, and knowing it can happen, I’m more excited than ever! Now I know for some of you it was a horrible decision on my part, and I will always be sorry for that, but I promise you it was the right one. To be with you in such an intimate space every week has been what I’ve most been looking forward to and I’m going to give you the absolute best of me.”
Thank you for your patience, I love you ♥️ Adele.”

The announcement follows the singer’s massive concerts in London’s Hyde Park early this month, and more than six months of silence regarding the residency, which she abruptly postponed her Las Vegas residency on Jan. 20, just a day before it was set to begin. While she initially blamed the delay on Covid within the show’s crew, multiple reports claimed she had not seen the actual production until just days before it was to begin and didn’t like it. Hundreds of fans who had traveled from all across the world suddenly were told there was no show; Adele Facetimed with some of them in the hours after her tearful announcement.


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Reply #16 posted 07/26/22 9:23am

SolaceAHA

TrivialPursuit said:

Well, here's a new chapter in the alleged "SAGA" of Adele:


Adele has announced rescheduled dates for her “Weekends With Adele” Las Vegas residency, which was abruptly postponed the day before it was scheduled to begin in January. The new dates — including one on Christmas Eve — will take place at the Colosseum at Caesar’s Palace in Las Vegas and begin November 18; they are listed below. In addition to the 24 rescheduled shows, 8 new shows have also been announced. The residency will now run through March 25, 2023.

..... Access will be limited with priority given to fans who held tickets for the original show dates or had previously registered and been waitlisted for the “Weekends With Adele” Verified Fan Presale. Eligible fans will receive an email invitation from Ticketmaster on Wednesday, August 3.

“Words can’t explain how ecstatic I am to finally be able to announce these rescheduled shows. I truly was heartbroken to have to cancel them,” she wrote in an Instagram message posted Monday. “But after what feels like an eternity of figuring out logistics for the show that I really want to deliver, and knowing it can happen, I’m more excited than ever! Now I know for some of you it was a horrible decision on my part, and I will always be sorry for that, but I promise you it was the right one. To be with you in such an intimate space every week has been what I’ve most been looking forward to and I’m going to give you the absolute best of me.”
Thank you for your patience, I love you ♥️ Adele.”

The announcement follows the singer’s massive concerts in London’s Hyde Park early this month, and more than six months of silence regarding the residency, which she abruptly postponed her Las Vegas residency on Jan. 20, just a day before it was set to begin. While she initially blamed the delay on Covid within the show’s crew, multiple reports claimed she had not seen the actual production until just days before it was to begin and didn’t like it. Hundreds of fans who had traveled from all across the world suddenly were told there was no show; Adele Facetimed with some of them in the hours after her tearful announcement.


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Its something ALL artists especially younger ones that are used to doing smaller shows need to realize and also how to plan and explain these issues. The COVID blaming was the wrong way to go, because even if there was a case of it, how are you legit cancelling months of dates? That is where my issue is with ANY artists and promoters, now is not the time to BS people when they spend way too much on an artist for a show and trips to it and then pull the plug on them and say it was a COVID case though you have multiple months of dates

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SolaceAHA said:

The COVID blaming was the wrong way to go, because even if there was a case of it, how are you legit cancelling months of dates?


That's really not your call, nor do you even know if it's a lie.

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Reply #18 posted 07/28/22 6:31am

SolaceAHA

TrivialPursuit said:

SolaceAHA said:

The COVID blaming was the wrong way to go, because even if there was a case of it, how are you legit cancelling months of dates?


That's really not your call, nor do you even know if it's a lie.

Did not say it was a lie. I am saying that artists or their promoters need to figure it out and properly communicate it with fans/buyers. When you are in a position where you have a large tour or residency and people are spending tons of money on you and especially residency shows, no one ever lives in that town that comes to the shows, its a tourist thing. The LIVE industry lots tons from closed venues, some closed for good, some closed because their states did re-openings in phases (like here in NYC) and probably lost more than other states by far. And since obviously in this "new world" there have been and will continue to be shows cancelled for covid or rescheduling, what I am saying is that Promoters have been in cases also been cancelling shows if low ticket sales and the artists have had to come out with statements "cancelled due to circumstances beyond our control" this has been going on quite a bit. And since LIVE shows are the bread and butter and the artists main source of revenue as streaming payments are a joke unless you have a billion a month, they should do ALL they can to make sure they are doing it right with cancelling things and communication. Its not difficult.

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