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Thread started 02/10/22 10:46am

SolaceAHA

CD SALES rising for the first time in 17 years

Over the last few years VINYL has been selling and increasing helped by things like Record Store day, and this year Apil 2022 with Taylor Swift at the helm of Record Store day, it might be the most lucrative yet. But last year CD sales rose and many attached this reason to Taylor and Adele and also BTS having records, though I think it is more than just that. Its the emerging YouTube channels that are talking up classic stuff to a new audience, older music is also outselling NEW by alot. YouTube channels such as Professor Of Rock has really impacted older artists but also bringing attention to older artists new releases. Other channels that do similar things many of them focusing on Rock and Metal and progressive rock have brought some sales to that physical product. Though streaming is still the main thing consumers are getting, one opinion has been that people are getting HIP that streaming is really hurting the artists (took them long enough to catch on) it does seem that the tide is getting a little rough for streaming, and maybe leading to rethink payouts which we all know is going to be passed on to the consumer and higher subscription fees.

CD Sales Have Increased f... Pitchfork

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Reply #1 posted 02/11/22 8:43am

SoulAlive

I still buy CDs smile I like getting the booklet with the artwork,lyrics,etc.

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Reply #2 posted 02/11/22 10:24am

Germanegro

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People are wising-up! CD
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Reply #3 posted 02/14/22 6:27am

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Man, just the thought of getting rid of my CDs makes me stick to my stomach! Over 35 years of time and effort put in to collecting. I don't have room for a bulky vinyl collection. CDs are the only way to go for me. And I'm not paying to stream music I already own.

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Reply #4 posted 02/14/22 9:08am

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No, CD sales decreased from 10% compared to last year at the same date :
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https://prince.org/msg/7/...?&pg=2
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You can now close this topic😂
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/22 10:10am

SolaceAHA

RODSERLING said:

No, CD sales decreased from 10% compared to last year at the same date : . https://prince.org/msg/7/...?&pg=2 . You can now close this topic😂


no actually they rose it is fact being reported in many places as did vinyl sales which easily are going to go way up this year

https://www.marketwatch.c...1641579788

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Reply #6 posted 02/14/22 11:45am

SoulAlive

CDs are back,y'all smile I just recently bought one of those 80s retro boom boxes that have a CD player.

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Reply #7 posted 02/14/22 1:05pm

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SolaceAHA said:



RODSERLING said:


No, CD sales decreased from 10% compared to last year at the same date : . https://prince.org/msg/7/...?&pg=2 . You can now close this topic😂


no actually they rose it is fact being reported in many places as did vinyl sales which easily are going to go way up this year



https://www.marketwatch.c...1641579788





No, you seem to have some problems to read.
This year, CD and vinyl sales are decreasing, compared to last year (-11.5%)
2021 was a commercial peak. 2022 is suffering from the vinyl crisis.
[Edited 2/14/22 13:06pm]
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Reply #8 posted 02/14/22 4:13pm

SolaceAHA

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SolaceAHA said:


no actually they rose it is fact being reported in many places as did vinyl sales which easily are going to go way up this year

https://www.marketwatch.c...1641579788

No, you seem to have some problems to read. This year, CD and vinyl sales are decreasing, compared to last year (-11.5%) 2021 was a commercial peak. 2022 is suffering from the vinyl crisis. [Edited 2/14/22 13:06pm]


2022 started six weeks ago there also have been no releases well major ones that have strong physical product sellers, as I said record store day this year is going to shatter the past ones by far, Taylor swift is their ambassador but not for the USA only but worldwide and she is hinting she will have her own release for it which means it goes through the roof, probably will be the first record store day release to chart. Also this a full year of accounting January is always a slow month anyone who knows music retail knows that if you have artists that don't sell put them out week of and the weeks following Christmas, it's called dumping, when labels existed and retail this is what they always did, but even now artists try to shy away from releasing stuff this early. As long as 2022 has releases from artists that people actually buy the product of not renting/streaming you will see a rise or something very equal to 2021 as much as people say it was Adele and BTS and swift it was quite a bit more.

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Reply #9 posted 02/14/22 8:16pm

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Good news, things go in cycles. Paying a streaming service for music I own has never been a option. I've kept a CD/DVD/R+W whatever built computer so I could still rip and add my music to a digital data base to stream view my iPod or Raspberry Pi. smile I hope the trend continues, fingers crossed.

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Reply #10 posted 02/14/22 10:37pm

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SolaceAHA said:



RODSERLING said:


SolaceAHA said:



no actually they rose it is fact being reported in many places as did vinyl sales which easily are going to go way up this year



https://www.marketwatch.c...1641579788





No, you seem to have some problems to read. This year, CD and vinyl sales are decreasing, compared to last year (-11.5%) 2021 was a commercial peak. 2022 is suffering from the vinyl crisis. [Edited 2/14/22 13:06pm]


2022 started six weeks ago there also have been no releases well major ones that have strong physical product sellers, as I said record store day this year is going to shatter the past ones by far, Taylor swift is their ambassador but not for the USA only but worldwide and she is hinting she will have her own release for it which means it goes through the roof, probably will be the first record store day release to chart. Also this a full year of accounting January is always a slow month anyone who knows music retail knows that if you have artists that don't sell put them out week of and the weeks following Christmas, it's called dumping, when labels existed and retail this is what they always did, but even now artists try to shy away from releasing stuff this early. As long as 2022 has releases from artists that people actually buy the product of not renting/streaming you will see a rise or something very equal to 2021 as much as people say it was Adele and BTS and swift it was quite a bit more.



Last year RSD moved what? 2 millions units max? That's a drop of water in the ocean.
I hope to be proven wrong though. But that's not the case as of now.
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Reply #11 posted 02/15/22 9:09am

SolaceAHA

RODSERLING said:

SolaceAHA said:


2022 started six weeks ago there also have been no releases well major ones that have strong physical product sellers, as I said record store day this year is going to shatter the past ones by far, Taylor swift is their ambassador but not for the USA only but worldwide and she is hinting she will have her own release for it which means it goes through the roof, probably will be the first record store day release to chart. Also this a full year of accounting January is always a slow month anyone who knows music retail knows that if you have artists that don't sell put them out week of and the weeks following Christmas, it's called dumping, when labels existed and retail this is what they always did, but even now artists try to shy away from releasing stuff this early. As long as 2022 has releases from artists that people actually buy the product of not renting/streaming you will see a rise or something very equal to 2021 as much as people say it was Adele and BTS and swift it was quite a bit more.

Last year RSD moved what? 2 millions units max? That's a drop of water in the ocean. I hope to be proven wrong though. But that's not the case as of now.

It may be a DROP in the ocean but the reality is last year only 16 albums (new releases) were certified gold, and I believe out of that only 2 or 4 were platnum, but thats because almost all these artists depend on streaming and very little on physical product moving.

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Reply #12 posted 02/15/22 12:13pm

RODSERLING

SolaceAHA said:



RODSERLING said:


SolaceAHA said:



2022 started six weeks ago there also have been no releases well major ones that have strong physical product sellers, as I said record store day this year is going to shatter the past ones by far, Taylor swift is their ambassador but not for the USA only but worldwide and she is hinting she will have her own release for it which means it goes through the roof, probably will be the first record store day release to chart. Also this a full year of accounting January is always a slow month anyone who knows music retail knows that if you have artists that don't sell put them out week of and the weeks following Christmas, it's called dumping, when labels existed and retail this is what they always did, but even now artists try to shy away from releasing stuff this early. As long as 2022 has releases from artists that people actually buy the product of not renting/streaming you will see a rise or something very equal to 2021 as much as people say it was Adele and BTS and swift it was quite a bit more.



Last year RSD moved what? 2 millions units max? That's a drop of water in the ocean. I hope to be proven wrong though. But that's not the case as of now.


It may be a DROP in the ocean but the reality is last year only 16 albums (new releases) were certified gold, and I believe out of that only 2 or 4 were platnum, but thats because almost all these artists depend on streaming and very little on physical product moving.



I don't care about streaming.
My point is that physical sales are declining, including CDs, and that the vinyl sales already reached their peak last year. That's all.
I wished it was the contrary : with more and more sales, production cost should have decreased consequently, and then triggered more sales, etc.
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Reply #13 posted 02/15/22 4:06pm

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What r cds

I'll tell U what the Eye in the Pimp stand 4!
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Reply #14 posted 02/15/22 4:12pm

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2freaky said:

What r cds

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Reply #15 posted 02/15/22 4:30pm

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TD3 said:

Good news, things go in cycles. Paying a streaming service for music I own has never been a option. I've kept a CD/DVD/R+W whatever built computer so I could still rip and add my music to a digital data base to stream view my iPod or Raspberry Pi. smile I hope the trend continues, fingers crossed.

A lot of people today don't own a stereo. They don't put CD or cassette players in cars anymore as a default. Many new PCs/laptops don't have a disc drive. I haven't seen a Radio Shack in years and when I was last in one, it was mostly cell phones and no stereos. lol So the general audience wouldn't have any reason to buy a CD, record, or tape. Best Buy stores don't even carry CDs and their DVD/Blu Ray section gets smaller & smaller, but they sell them online. But many people still don't shop online though. That's one reason Adele sells so much because her CDs are sold in stores where people can see it. Even in places that don't normally sell CDs like Walgreen's, Whole Foods, & gas stations. Physical music started to lose popularity when Napster came out. So an entire generation grew up with free music. Video games took over mainstream popularity from music CDs. Grand Theft Auto 5 has sold more than any other entertainment product including the Thriller album.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #16 posted 02/15/22 5:10pm

SoulAlive

Those 80s-styled retro boom boxes seem to be making a comeback too.I bought one recently.I also have one of those massive “BumpBoxx” boom boxes smile Google it…those things are huge!
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Reply #17 posted 02/15/22 5:16pm

SoulAlive

Remember those portable CD player Walkmans that were so popular in the 90s? Even those are being made by many manufacturers these days.I want to get the one made by Studebaker smile
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Reply #18 posted 02/15/22 5:23pm

SoulAlive

kitbradley said:

Man, just the thought of getting rid of my CDs makes me stick to my stomach! Over 35 years of time and effort put in to collecting. I don't have room for a bulky vinyl collection. CDs are the only way to go for me. And I'm not paying to stream music I already own.



As much as I love vinyl and I’m thrilled that there was a vinyl comeback,CDs are smaller,more practical and take up less space.
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Reply #19 posted 02/15/22 5:39pm

SoulAlive

TD3 said:

Good news, things go in cycles. Paying a streaming service for music I own has never been a option. I've kept a CD/DVD/R+W whatever built computer so I could still rip and add my music to a digital data base to stream view my iPod or Raspberry Pi. smile I hope the trend continues, fingers crossed.



I enjoy streaming.Spotify is great! I also like SiriusXM (I never listen to “regular radio” anymore).Pandora is cool,too.

but…I will always continue to play vinyl and CDs.I’m old school
biggrin I like having an original “copy” of something that I can hold in my hands.It’s nice that we have so many choices…..so many different ways to enjoy music.
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Reply #20 posted 02/16/22 11:30am

SolaceAHA

RODSERLING said:

SolaceAHA said:

It may be a DROP in the ocean but the reality is last year only 16 albums (new releases) were certified gold, and I believe out of that only 2 or 4 were platnum, but thats because almost all these artists depend on streaming and very little on physical product moving.

I don't care about streaming. My point is that physical sales are declining, including CDs, and that the vinyl sales already reached their peak last year. That's all. I wished it was the contrary : with more and more sales, production cost should have decreased consequently, and then triggered more sales, etc.

No I get that I am just saying we are just six weeks into the new year, different releases and carry over releases from artists were spiking those sales still. To end last year you just had Adele pretty much and in this new year so far for me personally there have been great new releases from Mellencamp and Eddie Vedder but they are not beyond week one or two sell to your base type artists, that get very little play anywhere so I still think its early to call this year anything. Back in 2020 at this time I thought a great year was ahead I had already seen six shows, and a few weeks later the whole world shut down some longer than others so after that whole mess, I dont forecast and put much in long term. RSD has released there list and they will also be doing a drop in June as expected, tons of artists on board for both so unless we dont have another shut down lose our shit becuase of a variant type response or a war with Russia or something unforseen I think things will pick up soon, some are still feeling the waters out.

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Reply #21 posted 02/18/22 10:30am

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SolaceAHA said:



RODSERLING said:


SolaceAHA said:



It may be a DROP in the ocean but the reality is last year only 16 albums (new releases) were certified gold, and I believe out of that only 2 or 4 were platnum, but thats because almost all these artists depend on streaming and very little on physical product moving.



I don't care about streaming. My point is that physical sales are declining, including CDs, and that the vinyl sales already reached their peak last year. That's all. I wished it was the contrary : with more and more sales, production cost should have decreased consequently, and then triggered more sales, etc.


No I get that I am just saying we are just six weeks into the new year, different releases and carry over releases from artists were spiking those sales still. To end last year you just had Adele pretty much and in this new year so far for me personally there have been great new releases from Mellencamp and Eddie Vedder but they are not beyond week one or two sell to your base type artists, that get very little play anywhere so I still think its early to call this year anything. Back in 2020 at this time I thought a great year was ahead I had already seen six shows, and a few weeks later the whole world shut down some longer than others so after that whole mess, I dont forecast and put much in long term. RSD has released there list and they will also be doing a drop in June as expected, tons of artists on board for both so unless we dont have another shut down lose our shit becuase of a variant type response or a war with Russia or something unforseen I think things will pick up soon, some are still feeling the waters out.



A war with Russia lol.
Or alien invasion, or a huge meteorite falling down to earth.
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Reply #22 posted 02/19/22 12:56pm

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SolaceAHA said:

No I get that I am just saying we are just six weeks into the new year, different releases and carry over releases from artists were spiking those sales still. To end last year you just had Adele pretty much and in this new year so far for me personally there have been great new releases from Mellencamp and Eddie Vedder but they are not beyond week one or two sell to your base type artists, that get very little play anywhere so I still think its early to call this year anything. Back in 2020 at this time I thought a great year was ahead I had already seen six shows, and a few weeks later the whole world shut down some longer than others so after that whole mess, I dont forecast and put much in long term. RSD has released there list and they will also be doing a drop in June as expected, tons of artists on board for both so unless we dont have another shut down lose our shit becuase of a variant type response or a war with Russia or something unforseen I think things will pick up soon, some are still feeling the waters out.

A war with Russia lol. Or alien invasion, or a huge meteorite falling down to earth.

Well now with the RSD list out for April and also some of a list for June RSD drop, I spoke to a few record store owners here in NYC who I frequent and always get "my list" to order for too, they are saying its the best list they have seen yet, though it may not have a major one to jump out at you, its got something for everyone and they have been getting calls on everything. The Prince and Pearl Jam for JUNE have been getting the most calls to order, the Prince has a big number (for RSD) of copies close to 25,000. So were surprised about Taylor Swift only doing a 7" but already tons of responses and calls on it and again they are making a ton of copies for RSD, some are saying her reasoning is that "1989" regarded as her biggest and best record is going to be the next re-do this year and they did not want to "tarnish" the RSD limited thing with a Major Release that has unlimited copies on cd and vinyl plus she likes to release them weeks or months apart on different formats cause she knows, her fans will buy it both ways. I also think now with most cities lifting restrictions, all of a sudden everyone is jumping on tour again quickly, though some still postpone, some have literally re-announced cancellations into new shows, so I think all of that is going to spark and kick into sales of all kinds.

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Reply #23 posted 02/20/22 6:32pm

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That's interesting news. I assumed it was due to Taylor Swift re-releasing her old material with new vocals every few months. I've seen a lot of artists release their newer material via the vinyl format, but not so much in CD format.

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Reply #24 posted 02/21/22 11:05am

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Who has a vehicle with a CD player? I hate how all the new ones just have bluetooth. I'd rather be charging my phone while I drive than draining its battery and using data streaming my TIDAL or whatever.

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Cinny said:

Who has a vehicle with a CD player?


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Cinny said:

Who has a vehicle with a CD player? I hate how all the new ones just have bluetooth. I'd rather be charging my phone while I drive than draining its battery and using data streaming my TIDAL or whatever.

I do and my car is a 2016. I don't know why these automakers think cd players are so archaic.

The more expensive cd players are live and well. CD players have outlasted MP3 players which

were used to stream music. Check out Audio Advisor's catalog. CD players are still standing strong.

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MickyDolenz said:

Cinny said:

Who has a vehicle with a CD player?


lol front loading 45 players??

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Cinny said:

Who has a vehicle with a CD player? I hate how all the new ones just have bluetooth. I'd rather be charging my phone while I drive than draining its battery and using data streaming my TIDAL or whatever.

I do and my car is a 2016. I don't know why these automakers think cd players are so archaic.

The more expensive cd players are live and well. CD players have outlasted MP3 players which

were used to stream music. Check out Audio Advisor's catalog. CD players are still standing strong.


I know! Considering how long it took them to ADD them to cars.

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Reply #29 posted 02/24/22 8:45am

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From my personal experience - once you started the convenience of streaming, the varity of choice and the excellent sound (up to high res), there is hardly a way back. And this coming from a guy who has spent a considerable amount of his income on vinyl and CDs when he was younger... biggrin

Unfortunately, streaming is one of the many conveniences catering to (or causing?) a reduced attention span. Anyone seen a 16 year old listening intensely to 20 minutes 5 song seague by the same artist while admiring cover work and lyrics? Or even a 70 minute plus session?

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