Ralph Tresvant
Gerardo

The D.O.C.
Bell Biv DeVoe
Deee-Lite (although I like their 2nd album better, it wasn't a commercial success)
Color Me Badd (same as above)
C+C Music Factory
Betty Boo
Ace Of Base

Technotronic

Chanté Moore

Michel'le
Al B. Sure!

George Michael

SantanaMaitreya said:

But I'm not so sure about George Michael; Faith was huge, but he still had a pretty good carreer afterwards.

He spent a lot of time feuding with Sony during which his popularity in the USA fell off.

MickyDolenz said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

But I'm not so sure about George Michael; Faith was huge, but he still had a pretty good carreer afterwards.

He spent a lot of time feuding with Sony during which his popularity in the USA fell off.

Obviously FAITH was his commercial peak, but I dont think it was his critical peak, it seems time has been kinder to OLDER as far as critics are concerned.

lastdecember said:

Obviously FAITH was his commercial peak, but I dont think it was his critical peak, it seems time has been kinder to OLDER as far as critics are concerned.

The restroom arrest killed whatever radio airplay George still had left in the USA (for his new music). Mary J. Blige's record label (MCA) did not approve the duet they did to be released in the US. So it was only available as an import. So "cancel culture" is not a new thing. It's always been around, it's just that social media made it more widespread (ig. Me Too, cultural appropriation) in the mainstream, so now its normal with younger generations. The same thing happened to Tevin Campbell in the 1990s.

lastdecember said:

TrivialPursuit said:

alphastreet said:

I would argue lady Gaga too, cause she didn’t sell more than fame monster afterwards

She's horrible. Lotta hype in the beginning. I never saw the appeal of "Poker Face." I'm like "Yes, please poke her face because she's annoying to look at."

It was always about her clothes, not her music. And when she did finally try to strip down and do music, it's still horrible. And I don't wanna hear about how Joanne was her best, or whatever. Artpop was hideous in every aspect. "Born This Way" was a blatant rip off of "Express Yourself," and the whole aesthetic around that time was lame. Everyone looked like egg yolks (yes i know, birth and rebirth blah blah), and a cash grab at the LGBTQ community. The choreography was even terrible for the video.

It's all her "career" has ever been - pandering to us gays. And frankly, I'm a little disappointed that so many of my people buy into it.

She's just so fucking affected. It's phony, self-indulgent, and frankly a little irresponsible.

The whole "oh, this is about fame. It's just so much." I'm thinking, "Bitch, you just got here."

And God, don't say anything about Lady Caca, because her little monsters are just that - monsters. They are just as fragile as the Bey-hive. Clutching the pearls and shit.

And sometimes a chair is just a chair.

She's just fun to look at and over the top and sometimes that's enough.

There's this thing with the new generation that has to relate to their pop stars. No one can relate to Lady GaGa, she's too outsizes and extreme. Which is entertaining (or at least was and occasionally still is).

Sure some of it can be terrible but the girl has pipes.

Her acting is fine but not embarrassing yourself is enough for me (something Madonna just couldn't pull off).

Lady GaGa might wear a Vivienne Westwood gown in 15 in. platforms down the middle of Times Square one minute then turn Madison Square Garden into Studio 54 the next and that's simply the point.

CynicKill said:

Georgio

Neneh Cherry

Shai

The Boyz

MickyDolenz said:

MotownSubdivision said:

CynicKill said:

And sometimes a chair is just a chair.

She's just fun to look at and over the top and sometimes that's enough.

There's this thing with the new generation that has to relate to their pop stars. No one can relate to Lady GaGa, she's too outsizes and extreme. Which is entertaining (or at least was and occasionally still is).

Sure some of it can be terrible but the girl has pipes.

I can understand many of the misgivings some have grown to have with Gaga, I have a few of my own but the girl isn't without talent.

I don't deny she can sing. Everything else about her is overly affected and shitty. haha I think she's only mega because she sorta struck when music was languishing a bit. She was weird and new. Had she shown up 5 years later or 5 years earlier, maybe her luck wouldn't have been so ...well, lucky.

phunkdaddy said:

Georgio

Neneh Cherry

Shai

The Boyz

I'm sorry to say I agree. I loved her debut album so much. Still do, actually. It's a record that defines a big chunk of my youth. What she did after never caught my attention like that.

phunkdaddy said:

Maxwell

ludwig said:

Maxwell

DJdirtymind said:

speaking of one-album wonders...

gotta add Club Nouveau to the list.Their 1986 debut album was HUGE,but follow-up albums went nowhere.

SoulAlive said:

alphastreet said:

Lol Also agree Jody’s sales went down though she still had star power and good opportunities to perform after the first 2 albums. If anything, she deservedly celebrates her accomplishments till this day and is a nice person

Howard Hewett recently did an interview on Vlad, but not with Vlad doing the interview. Howard says he doesn't know why Jody is mad at him, that they have never sat down and talked about it. That if she is still upset after all this time, to him, it would seem like it would be with Jeffrey and some other people in the Shalamar camp, not with him. Howard didn't elaborate on who these people were. He says Benny Medina told him the reason after they did that collabo with Babyface & Benny Medina, because Benny was talking to Jody at the time. Howard said that Benny told him (Howard) that he had told her during an argument around the time of The Look album that she wouldn't be nothing without Shalamar. Howard said he doesn't remember if he said that or not, but if he did, then she should have gotten over it when Looking For A New Love blew up. To prove him wrong. Howard also talked a little bit about the Eddie & Charlie Murphy/Prince/Micki Free basketball game.

Hamad said:

SoulAlive said:

speaking of one-album wonders...

gotta add Club Nouveau to the list.Their 1986 debut album was HUGE,but follow-up albums went nowhere.

I always get them mixed up with that other group, was hoping you know their name because I can’t think of it at the top of my head it’s similar to theirs with similar music.

Timex Social Club? the one-hit wonder act who did "Rumors"?

MickyDolenz said:

SoulAlive said:

speaking of one-album wonders...

gotta add Club Nouveau to the list.Their 1986 debut album was HUGE,but follow-up albums went nowhere.

Well, their earlier incarnation was Timex Social Club with "Rumors."

Club Nouveau was definitely the peak of their music. Producer Jay King constantly tried to rewrite "Rumors," into "Jealousy," then later "Envious."

Jay King's a prick, too. Really homophobic, and a bigot. He's involved in local government or something; I forget what.

Foster & McElroy who produced TSC and was in CN, later wrote and produced En Vogue, Tony! Toni! Toné!, Alexander O'Neal, Regina Belle, and Swing Out Sister, among others. They were really an unsung Jam/Lew, or LaFace, type producing duo that no one ever talks about nearly as much. Their smartest move was leaving Jay King's bullshit.

They were at the forefront of New Jack Swing, too.

TrivialPursuit said:

SoulAlive said:

speaking of one-album wonders...

gotta add Club Nouveau to the list.Their 1986 debut album was HUGE,but follow-up albums went nowhere.

Well, their earlier incarnation was Timex Social Club with "Rumors."

Club Nouveau was definitely the peak of their music. Producer Jay King constantly tried to rewrite "Rumors," into "Jealousy," then later "Envious."

Jay King's a prick, too. Really homophobic, and a bigot. He's involved in local government or something; I forget what.

Foster & McElroy who produced TSC and was in CN, later wrote and produced En Vogue, Tony! Toni! Toné!, Alexander O'Neal, Regina Belle, and Swing Out Sister, among others. They were really an unsung Jam/Lew, or LaFace, type producing duo that no one ever talks about nearly as much. Their smartest move was leaving Jay King's bullshit.

They were at the forefront of New Jack Swing, too.

oh yeah,I have heard stories about Jay King and his evil ways.With some of his crazy decisions,he actually prevented his own band (Club Nouveau) from having a long,successful career as you pointed out,his first big mistake was feuding with Foster and McElroy,who angrily left the band.

Mistake number 2:

In 1987,Madonna asked Club Nouveau to be the opening act on her 'Who's That Girl' tour,which played at stadiums around the world and would have given Club Nouveau a massive audience and major exposure.A week before the tour was to begin,Jay backed out of it saying "Madonna doesn't need us and we don't need her" (or something similiar to that).Madonna quickly found a replacement (Level 42).Not surprisingly,Club Nouveau never had another hit single or big album after that.

Tracy Chapman

SoulAlive said:

In 1987,Madonna asked Club Nouveau to be the opening act on her 'Who's That Girl' tour,which played at stadiums around the world and would have given Club Nouveau a massive audience and major exposure.A week before the tour was to begin,Jay backed out of it saying "Madonna doesn't need us and we don't need her" (or something similiar to that).Madonna quickly found a replacement (Level 42).Not surprisingly,Club Nouveau never had another hit single or big album after that.

Yeah, I saw Who's That Girl? Tour in Philadelphia, and Level 42 opened. The lead singer had a broken ankle or some injury, so he performed their set on a barstool.

Jay King has a "radio show" on BlogTalkRadio, and is just so self-absorbed. He believes gay men are "light in the loafers," and "have that female in them."

I've had a lot of things in me, as a gay man, but a female was never one of them. Never been pegged by one, either, for the record. But to Jay King, the only way for a man to be gay is to have "a woman inside him."

He also has a problem with darker skinned Black folk. But that's another issue.