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SO WHAT HAPPENED?: JANET JACKSON From "All For You" to "Damita Jo" (PART 1 & 2)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB585-UBQRc

In this episode we discuss the events leading up to the release and promotion of Janet's "All For You" and "Damita Jo" albums. We also dive into the earlier half of her career while highlighting the changing music landscape in the early 1980s. Also please remember that music opinions are subjective and not the law of the land. This is just my synopsis and perspective. Everyone is going to have their own taste and interests musically.

PART 1

0:00- Opening Introduction

1:25- Janet's Early Acting & Music Career

3:46- Janet's Second Thoughts About A Music Career

7:29- Why There Wasn't A Musical Lane For Janet Jackson In The Early 80s

21:47- The Takeoff! Impact, Tours, Accolades, Hits, & Blockbuster Success

38:23- "The Velvet Rope" Challenges & Label Decisions

46:16- The Successful Half Of The "All For You" Era

51:24- "All For You" Challenges, Label Decisions, World Events

PART 2

1:02:55- Superbowl Halftime Show, Backlash, Blacklisting, & Censorship

1:22:16- Damita Jo, Radio Shut Out "Just A Little While" & "I Want You"

1:28:46- MTV Blacklisting, The Machine, Media Punching Bag, Collateral

1:38:34- Sales Decline, Readjusting Promotion, "All Nite (Don't Stop)"

1:43:41- "R&B Junkie", Sustainability, Tour?, Peers, Blacklisting Impact

1:59:30- The Damita Jo Album Track Listing


[Edited 10/11/21 10:39am]

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Reply #1 posted 10/11/21 2:23pm

alphastreet

Will watch this later. All for you reached 3 million and could have reached 4 million had more singles been released, it’s aged well too, which I didn’t expect.

Damita jo is a nice album too, could have easily done a minimum of 2 million in the us, I also think her not touring Europe hurt her career overseas
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Reply #2 posted 10/13/21 5:05pm

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Imo

All for you was superior

Cheerful and full of hope for a new millennium

9/11 happened in the middle of that tour

Damita Jo was fine but not as cheerful. It didn't capture the mood. Superbowl incident was also a media out to get any Jackson they could as mj was not doing the wrong they wanted to do him for.
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Reply #3 posted 10/22/21 9:58pm

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All For You was a superb album hurt by weak single releases Son Of A Gun and Come On Get Up.

Missy Elliot's remix didn't help Son Of A Gun at all either. I always felt China Love and

You Ain't Right should have been follow up singles to All For You and Someone To Call My Lover.

China Love is one of her best ballads imo.

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Reply #4 posted 10/23/21 9:26am

alphastreet

I still play come on get up often by watching the tour performance. A video for it would have been nice and probably would have reached number 1

I remember Janet wanted to release trust a try though it didn’t materialize
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Reply #5 posted 10/28/21 9:10pm

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phunkdaddy said:

All For You was a superb album hurt by weak single releases Son Of A Gun and Come On Get Up.

Missy Elliot's remix didn't help Son Of A Gun at all either. I always felt China Love and

You Ain't Right should have been follow up singles to All For You and Someone To Call My Lover.

China Love is one of her best ballads imo.

"You TELL 'EM, Carly!" UGH!!!! THAT song was the absolute WORST piece of CRAP I've ever heard in my entire LIFE! The "You're So Vain" sample worked, but having Carly Simon rappin' up in there was a hot MESS in my opinion. Not 2 mention Missy Elliot's awful remix only made it worse. Jam & Lewis seemed 2 have been strugglin' a bit on this one. Horrible choice 4 a single and should've been eliminated from the album altogether. The M.F. bombs only cheapened it too. It just didn't connect very well; felt like an incomplete song altogether.

Hungry? Just look in the mirror and get fed up.
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Reply #6 posted 10/28/21 10:56pm

alphastreet

lol you’re so passionate about how much you hate it, it made me cringe in the beginning though it’s just alright now
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Reply #7 posted 11/01/21 2:19am

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whitechocolatebrotha said:



phunkdaddy said:


All For You was a superb album hurt by weak single releases Son Of A Gun and Come On Get Up.


Missy Elliot's remix didn't help Son Of A Gun at all either. I always felt China Love and


You Ain't Right should have been follow up singles to All For You and Someone To Call My Lover.


China Love is one of her best ballads imo.



"You TELL 'EM, Carly!" UGH!!!! THAT song was the absolute WORST piece of CRAP I've ever heard in my entire LIFE! The "You're So Vain" sample worked, but having Carly Simon rappin' up in there was a hot MESS in my opinion. Not 2 mention Missy Elliot's awful remix only made it worse. Jam & Lewis seemed 2 have been strugglin' a bit on this one. Horrible choice 4 a single and should've been eliminated from the album altogether. The M.F. bombs only cheapened it too. It just didn't connect very well; felt like an incomplete song altogether.



Agreed. I would just skip over that song.
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