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alphastreet

Drake is so annoying

Everyone on social media is hyped up over him. Have had enough of hearing about his fuckboy anthem
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Reply #1 posted 09/03/21 6:56pm

uPtoWnNY

Garbage sells.

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Reply #2 posted 09/03/21 7:56pm

alphastreet

And Kanye is in my prayers after drakes disses
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Reply #3 posted 09/03/21 9:02pm

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I don't give a shit how many records any of them have sold - they're nobodies. We hear more about their lives and who they're fucking than anything artistic.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 09/03/21 9:29pm

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alphastreet said:

Everyone on social media is hyped up over him. Have had enough of hearing about his fuckboy anthem


What is a fuckboy anthem?
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Reply #5 posted 09/03/21 11:12pm

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I simply don't understand his success. He has the most irrating voice I've ever heard on record.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #6 posted 09/04/21 1:00am

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Garbage sells.

Exactly smile the best thing to do is...just ignore these whack "artists"of today and simply listen to the real artists and bands from the past.This works for me.

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Reply #7 posted 09/04/21 2:43am

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I saw a meme that was like “U hate on Drake but u have 176 of his songs in your library”. I checked my library over 30k songs and no Drake, I do have Erykah’s cover of Hotline Bling though that was cute.
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Reply #8 posted 09/04/21 6:02am

uPtoWnNY

SoulAlive said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Garbage sells.

Exactly smile the best thing to do is...just ignore these whack "artists"of today and simply listen to the real artists and bands from the past.This works for me.

Yep, that's what I do.

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Reply #9 posted 09/04/21 6:34am

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I feel the same way about Kanye and so many others that are raking in the dough but have mediocre talent.
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Reply #10 posted 09/04/21 7:21am

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Neither Kanye nor Drake have dropped good albums in years. Drake's last was in 2015 and Ye's in 2010, I want to check out CLB but I'm gunshy after the previous 3 releases and seeing this one is just as long as those were.
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Reply #11 posted 09/04/21 7:25am

uPtoWnNY

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I feel the same way about Kanye and so many others that are raking in the dough but have mediocre talent.

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Drake, Kanye, Weaveonce, Rihianna, Li'l Wayne, Cardi B, Megan the Horse, etc. No thanks, I'll stick with the old stuff (60s-90s).

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Reply #12 posted 09/04/21 12:45pm

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For me, Drake is the 'Kenny G ' of hip hop. Every once in a while he releases a song or two that I like and I collect those tracks. This dude is too one dimensional and most of what he releases sounds the same.

Drake's new album (much like Kanye's) is too long and needs to be cut down to make a cohesive half way enjoyable album.

Other than that, Drake's never been on my radar and I'm not a fan.

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Reply #13 posted 09/04/21 12:54pm

alphastreet

daingermouz2020 said:

alphastreet said:

Everyone on social media is hyped up over him. Have had enough of hearing about his fuckboy anthem


What is a fuckboy anthem?


The mess he calls certified lover boy
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Reply #14 posted 09/05/21 10:57am

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I just read an article with Nsync's Chris Kirkpatrick reacting to Drake's "TSU," in which fuckboy samples Nsync's cover of "Sailing" (a 1980 yacht rock hit for Christopher Cross). Kirkpatrick said he loved it. I listened to part of it. Fuckboy could've used keyboards with voice parts (like a choir patch) and had a richer and fuller sound on that song. Something with texture, something rich. But instead it sounds like utter fucking shit.

Then I thought - these assholes like fuckboy-Drake or Kanye wouldn't have a career if it weren't for sampling someone else's work. And I get that sampling is part of hip-hop culture. It goes back to the streets; a turntable and a speaker. I get all that.

In the 21st century, when people try to hail these jackoffs as revolutionaries or something, how about they actually do something revolutionary?? Is that too much to ask? And hey, if fuckboy or whoever can't come up with something revolutionary, then at least just be good at your chosen craft. Have a personality, have something to back up your quasi-swagger. Be something more than the hype. Be a reason for the hype.

Fuckboy is making and using the same production that has been used for a good decade. Thin snares, rapid highhats, weird bass sounds. It's been done to fucking death. Kanye isn't revolutionary with that one record a few years ago. Even Rick Rubin said what Kanye came to the studio with was a fucking mess, a hodge podge of samples and faded ideas that he struggled to produce into an album that Kanye could release. Kanye isn't some troubled genius. He's a ego-maniac. If stringing together a bunch of samples of other people's work makes one a revolutionary, then all of us who made stilly mixtapes, etc., in the 80s on our stereoes or boomboxes are fucking revolutionaries, too. (If anything, we did it the harder way because we didn't have a computer to copy & paste with. LOL)

Put fuckboy or Kanye in a room with real instruments and nothing but an analog recording board and a stack of fresh tape, and let's see what they do after 24 hours.

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Reply #15 posted 09/05/21 12:02pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

I just read an article with Nsync's Chris Kirkpatrick reacting to Drake's "TSU," in which fuckboy samples Nsync's cover of "Sailing" (a 1980 yacht rock hit for Christopher Cross). Kirkpatrick said he loved it. I listened to part of it. Fuckboy could've used keyboards with voice parts (like a choir patch) and had a richer and fuller sound on that song. Something with texture, something rich. But instead it sounds like utter fucking shit.

Then I thought - these assholes like fuckboy-Drake or Kanye wouldn't have a career if it weren't for sampling someone else's work. And I get that sampling is part of hip-hop culture. It goes back to the streets; a turntable and a speaker. I get all that.

In the 21st century, when people try to hail these jackoffs as revolutionaries or something, how about they actually do something revolutionary?? Is that too much to ask? And hey, if fuckboy or whoever can't come up with something revolutionary, then at least just be good at your chosen craft. Have a personality, have something to back up your quasi-swagger. Be something more than the hype. Be a reason for the hype.

Fuckboy is making and using the same production that has been used for a good decade. Thin snares, rapid highhats, weird bass sounds. It's been done to fucking death. Kanye isn't revolutionary with that one record a few years ago. Even Rick Rubin said what Kanye came to the studio with was a fucking mess, a hodge podge of samples and faded ideas that he struggled to produce into an album that Kanye could release. Kanye isn't some troubled genius. He's a ego-maniac. If stringing together a bunch of samples of other people's work makes one a revolutionary, then all of us who made stilly mixtapes, etc., in the 80s on our stereoes or boomboxes are fucking revolutionaries, too. (If anything, we did it the harder way because we didn't have a computer to copy & paste with. LOL)

Put fuckboy or Kanye in a room with real instruments and nothing but an analog recording board and a stack of fresh tape, and let's see what they do after 24 hours.

It reminds me of an arguement on the org about if sampling is as creative as actually writing and producing a song from scratch.

Of course there were people saying sampling is just as creative as the latter and you cannot convince these people otherwise.

I question whether Drake or Kanye even bring in skeletal demos to the process.

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Reply #16 posted 09/05/21 1:36pm

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CynicKill said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I just read an article with Nsync's Chris Kirkpatrick reacting to Drake's "TSU," in which fuckboy samples Nsync's cover of "Sailing" (a 1980 yacht rock hit for Christopher Cross). Kirkpatrick said he loved it. I listened to part of it. Fuckboy could've used keyboards with voice parts (like a choir patch) and had a richer and fuller sound on that song. Something with texture, something rich. But instead it sounds like utter fucking shit.

Then I thought - these assholes like fuckboy-Drake or Kanye wouldn't have a career if it weren't for sampling someone else's work. And I get that sampling is part of hip-hop culture. It goes back to the streets; a turntable and a speaker. I get all that.

In the 21st century, when people try to hail these jackoffs as revolutionaries or something, how about they actually do something revolutionary?? Is that too much to ask? And hey, if fuckboy or whoever can't come up with something revolutionary, then at least just be good at your chosen craft. Have a personality, have something to back up your quasi-swagger. Be something more than the hype. Be a reason for the hype.

Fuckboy is making and using the same production that has been used for a good decade. Thin snares, rapid highhats, weird bass sounds. It's been done to fucking death. Kanye isn't revolutionary with that one record a few years ago. Even Rick Rubin said what Kanye came to the studio with was a fucking mess, a hodge podge of samples and faded ideas that he struggled to produce into an album that Kanye could release. Kanye isn't some troubled genius. He's a ego-maniac. If stringing together a bunch of samples of other people's work makes one a revolutionary, then all of us who made stilly mixtapes, etc., in the 80s on our stereoes or boomboxes are fucking revolutionaries, too. (If anything, we did it the harder way because we didn't have a computer to copy & paste with. LOL)

Put fuckboy or Kanye in a room with real instruments and nothing but an analog recording board and a stack of fresh tape, and let's see what they do after 24 hours.

It reminds me of an arguement on the org about if sampling is as creative as actually writing and producing a song from scratch.

Of course there were people saying sampling is just as creative as the latter and you cannot convince these people otherwise.

I question whether Drake or Kanye even bring in skeletal demos to the process.

These dudes would not have a career with sampling.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #17 posted 09/06/21 11:27am

alphastreet

TrivialPursuit said:

I just read an article with Nsync's Chris Kirkpatrick reacting to Drake's "TSU," in which fuckboy samples Nsync's cover of "Sailing" (a 1980 yacht rock hit for Christopher Cross). Kirkpatrick said he loved it. I listened to part of it. Fuckboy could've used keyboards with voice parts (like a choir patch) and had a richer and fuller sound on that song. Something with texture, something rich. But instead it sounds like utter fucking shit.

Then I thought - these assholes like fuckboy-Drake or Kanye wouldn't have a career if it weren't for sampling someone else's work. And I get that sampling is part of hip-hop culture. It goes back to the streets; a turntable and a speaker. I get all that.

In the 21st century, when people try to hail these jackoffs as revolutionaries or something, how about they actually do something revolutionary?? Is that too much to ask? And hey, if fuckboy or whoever can't come up with something revolutionary, then at least just be good at your chosen craft. Have a personality, have something to back up your quasi-swagger. Be something more than the hype. Be a reason for the hype.

Fuckboy is making and using the same production that has been used for a good decade. Thin snares, rapid highhats, weird bass sounds. It's been done to fucking death. Kanye isn't revolutionary with that one record a few years ago. Even Rick Rubin said what Kanye came to the studio with was a fucking mess, a hodge podge of samples and faded ideas that he struggled to produce into an album that Kanye could release. Kanye isn't some troubled genius. He's a ego-maniac. If stringing together a bunch of samples of other people's work makes one a revolutionary, then all of us who made stilly mixtapes, etc., in the 80s on our stereoes or boomboxes are fucking revolutionaries, too. (If anything, we did it the harder way because we didn't have a computer to copy & paste with. LOL)



Put fuckboy or Kanye in a room with real instruments and nothing but an analog recording board and a stack of fresh tape, and let's see what they do after 24 hours.




Yes you get it! I do like Kanye though
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Reply #18 posted 09/08/21 8:36pm

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Used to swear by him. There was a point (If You're Reading This It's Too Late era) that I thought he would switch up n continue trying new flows, but since he's proved to be a one trick pony. A buddy said it one time of him, "he can rhyme, but he doesn't really have much to say". I argued then, but its kinda facts. Still have some fave albums/ songs by him.
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Reply #19 posted 09/08/21 9:05pm

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Even his fans hate this one. I rarely see someone that commercially popular have their fans rate an album that low (under 4 of 10 when I last checked on the metacritic site). I am not a Kanye fan but I do think he has a history of being creative and taking the road less traveled while Drake is just dull and unimaginative.

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Reply #20 posted 09/08/21 11:42pm

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Listened to both Drake and Kanye’s latest releases.
Both artistic flops IMO.
When artist had platforms/audiences as large as they have,
they took music to higher levels and different places.
Going nowhere...
These two chose to moan,cry,complain and just be boring.
Hopefully,Kendrick will achieve more.
my phone is heavy
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Reply #21 posted 09/09/21 8:41am

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TrivialPursuit said:

I just read an article with Nsync's Chris Kirkpatrick reacting to Drake's "TSU," in which fuckboy samples Nsync's cover of "Sailing" (a 1980 yacht rock hit for Christopher Cross). Kirkpatrick said he loved it. I listened to part of it. Fuckboy could've used keyboards with voice parts (like a choir patch) and had a richer and fuller sound on that song. Something with texture, something rich. But instead it sounds like utter fucking shit.

Then I thought - these assholes like fuckboy-Drake or Kanye wouldn't have a career if it weren't for sampling someone else's work. And I get that sampling is part of hip-hop culture. It goes back to the streets; a turntable and a speaker. I get all that.

In the 21st century, when people try to hail these jackoffs as revolutionaries or something, how about they actually do something revolutionary?? Is that too much to ask? And hey, if fuckboy or whoever can't come up with something revolutionary, then at least just be good at your chosen craft. Have a personality, have something to back up your quasi-swagger. Be something more than the hype. Be a reason for the hype.

Fuckboy is making and using the same production that has been used for a good decade. Thin snares, rapid highhats, weird bass sounds. It's been done to fucking death. Kanye isn't revolutionary with that one record a few years ago. Even Rick Rubin said what Kanye came to the studio with was a fucking mess, a hodge podge of samples and faded ideas that he struggled to produce into an album that Kanye could release. Kanye isn't some troubled genius. He's a ego-maniac. If stringing together a bunch of samples of other people's work makes one a revolutionary, then all of us who made stilly mixtapes, etc., in the 80s on our stereoes or boomboxes are fucking revolutionaries, too. (If anything, we did it the harder way because we didn't have a computer to copy & paste with. LOL)



Put fuckboy or Kanye in a room with real instruments and nothing but an analog recording board and a stack of fresh tape, and let's see what they do after 24 hours.

Kanye hasn't dropped an album I liked in a decade and he hasn't endeared himself with his antics and public outbursts in the years since but it's unfair to discredit him as someone who wouldn't have been anything without sampling. He's got plenty of original compositions and produ tion credits and has managed to stand out by switching up his style with every release; he's been a major influence in hip hop over the course of his career.

...I just wish he still was. I don't get why people make all these excuses for most of his behavior nor do I get how there is a strange subsection of hip hop heads and hipsters who lap up whatever crap Kanye throws out (music or otherwise) and herald it as some innovative, genius work but to undermine the man's talents as someone who can't make his own music is not a proper assessment of his talents.
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When it comes to Drake, I don't mind when artists find their niche and stick to it. I don't subscribe to the notion that an artist HAS to experiment and push new boundaries and innovate; especially these days where the well is pretty much dry. However, not every schtick has the same shelf life and Drake's has worn thin over the years.

I haven't listened to CLB but based on what I've heard, it may as well be Views Part 4 and I have ZERO interest in yet another hour + long album with no standout tracks and him whining over monotonous, drowsy production about the same shit we're accustomed to hearing from him. He'll drop some occasional hot tracks and even show some glimpses of lyrical depth and less superficial topics but those are distant small islands in a vast sea of gray water. The dude knows he doesn't have to try and he's been exploiting that for years; Drake has no reason to take off the autopilot and it's a shame because I think he could deliver something worthwhile if he actually tried.
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Reply #23 posted 09/09/21 11:26am

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MotownSubdivision said:

When it comes to Drake, I don't mind when artists find their niche and stick to it. I don't subscribe to the notion that an artist HAS to experiment and push new boundaries and innovate; especially these days where the well is pretty much dry. However, not every schtick has the same shelf life and Drake's has worn thin over the years. I haven't listened to CLB but based on what I've heard, it may as well be Views Part 4 and I have ZERO interest in yet another hour + long album with no standout tracks and him whining over monotonous, drowsy production about the same shit we're accustomed to hearing from him. He'll drop some occasional hot tracks and even show some glimpses of lyrical depth and less superficial topics but those are distant small islands in a vast sea of gray water. The dude knows he doesn't have to try and he's been exploiting that for years; Drake has no reason to take off the autopilot and it's a shame because I think he could deliver something worthwhile if he actually tried.

Unless him and The Weeknd get back on good terms I don't see it happening.

His subject matter revolves around a very strict citieria:

Haters.

Unfaithful girls.

Too many girls.

My money.

Being the best.

Or some vairiation of these topics.

Since he's been doing it for over a decade yeah it's getting pretty old.

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CynicKill said:



MotownSubdivision said:


When it comes to Drake, I don't mind when artists find their niche and stick to it. I don't subscribe to the notion that an artist HAS to experiment and push new boundaries and innovate; especially these days where the well is pretty much dry. However, not every schtick has the same shelf life and Drake's has worn thin over the years. I haven't listened to CLB but based on what I've heard, it may as well be Views Part 4 and I have ZERO interest in yet another hour + long album with no standout tracks and him whining over monotonous, drowsy production about the same shit we're accustomed to hearing from him. He'll drop some occasional hot tracks and even show some glimpses of lyrical depth and less superficial topics but those are distant small islands in a vast sea of gray water. The dude knows he doesn't have to try and he's been exploiting that for years; Drake has no reason to take off the autopilot and it's a shame because I think he could deliver something worthwhile if he actually tried.

Unless him and The Weeknd get back on good terms I don't see it happening.


His subject matter revolves around a very strict citieria:


Haters.


Unfaithful girls.


Too many girls.


My money.


Being the best.


Or some vairiation of these topics.


Since he's been doing it for over a decade yeah it's getting pretty old.


I'm not holding my breath on that one. Dude will just keep biting different flows and styles till it no longer results in hits.

As it stands, Take Care is still his magnum opus and that album is nearly 10 years old. Nothing Was The Same was solid and If You're Reading This It's Too Late was a step up from that but Views on has been an absolute chore, not least because he keeps saying the same things in less intriguing ways. Drake just has not matured or grown as an artist. His somber, monotonous style does not lend well to repetitive subject matter.
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Reply #25 posted 09/15/21 8:05am

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I did like him at first...more just a few singles especially Hold On Were Going Home...but since then he has not had any output like that in a very long time.

Its these kids constantly streaming him that is keeping him going.

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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paisleypark4 said:

I did like him at first...more just a few singles especially Hold On Were Going Home...but since then he has not had any output like that in a very long time.



Its these kids constantly streaming him that is keeping him going.

Streams will never equate to actual album sales no matter how much people try to say otherwise. It's kinds sad that Drake, more than any other big time artist I can think of, coasts the most on his name value and is still as popular as he is. In a normally functioning world, he'd have fallen off years ago.
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Reply #27 posted 09/15/21 12:01pm

CynicKill

MotownSubdivision said:

paisleypark4 said:

I did like him at first...more just a few singles especially Hold On Were Going Home...but since then he has not had any output like that in a very long time.

Its these kids constantly streaming him that is keeping him going.

Streams will never equate to actual album sales no matter how much people try to say otherwise. It's kinds sad that Drake, more than any other big time artist I can think of, coasts the most on his name value and is still as popular as he is. In a normally functioning world, he'd have fallen off years ago.

But he's bigger than The Beatles now!

Right?

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Reply #28 posted 09/15/21 3:34pm

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CynicKill said:



MotownSubdivision said:


paisleypark4 said:

I did like him at first...more just a few singles especially Hold On Were Going Home...but since then he has not had any output like that in a very long time.



Its these kids constantly streaming him that is keeping him going.



Streams will never equate to actual album sales no matter how much people try to say otherwise. It's kinds sad that Drake, more than any other big time artist I can think of, coasts the most on his name value and is still as popular as he is. In a normally functioning world, he'd have fallen off years ago.

But he's bigger than The Beatles now!


Right?


Totally. His millions of free streams stack higher than the millions of paltry album sales from those nobodies.
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Reply #29 posted 09/16/21 8:14am

uPtoWnNY

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In a normally functioning world, he'd have fallen off years ago.

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