But it really died in it's teenage years.

Marrk said:

MTV has not had any relevance in almost thirty years, they are a joke. The fact they still have those award shows and people take it serious is a joke.

alphastreet said:

lastdecember said:

MotownSubdivision said:

alphastreet said:

MotownSubdivision said:

MotownSubdivision said:

lastdecember said:

MTV has not had any relevance in almost thirty years, they are a joke. The fact they still have those award shows and people take it serious is a joke.

I'll never understand why the VMAs still exist in this era. There hasn't been any reason to watch since the 2000s and there's only been less and less on top of that every year, less and less people watch every year, the few people that do bother to tune in still are moved less and less by the stunts they pull... I simply don't get the point of the VMAs in the age of YouTube and streaming. This article was published after the 2014 VMAs but it still holds up in a lot of ways almost 7 years later: https://www.huffpost.com/..._b_5710523 [Edited 8/2/21 17:48pm]

Exactly. I mean award shows in general are a waste of time now, they have turned into nonsense where the artists get up there and they say who think should have won, so if the artists want to just award each other why go through this glorified expense of a show that consistently gets bad ratings. Now MTV I mean that is the running joke on how a network can have awards for videos it doesnt even show. It would be like FOX news giving out awards to their favorite liberal hosts, its just not existing. In general I don't really see the use for them, MTV still is trying to keep their tradition of mattering but I think the MTV award shows died early to mid 90's, once they became all about MTV real world and they started bringing in all the shows like "Im a teenage mom, or I slept with the babysitter" shit or MTV Cribs, I mean if people think the 80's was the ME generation and decade, what the hell was MTV Cribs? Hey come look at what i waste my money on, similar to the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, and people in the industry wonder why they are viewed as "elite" to others, well just watch shows like that.

lastdecember said:

MotownSubdivision said:

lastdecember said: I'll never understand why the VMAs still exist in this era. There hasn't been any reason to watch since the 2000s and there's only been less and less on top of that every year, less and less people watch every year, the few people that do bother to tune in still are moved less and less by the stunts they pull... I simply don't get the point of the VMAs in the age of YouTube and streaming. This article was published after the 2014 VMAs but it still holds up in a lot of ways almost 7 years later: https://www.huffpost.com/..._b_5710523 [Edited 8/2/21 17:48pm]

Exactly. I mean award shows in general are a waste of time now, they have turned into nonsense where the artists get up there and they say who think should have won, so if the artists want to just award each other why go through this glorified expense of a show that consistently gets bad ratings. Now MTV I mean that is the running joke on how a network can have awards for videos it doesnt even show. It would be like FOX news giving out awards to their favorite liberal hosts, its just not existing. In general I don't really see the use for them, MTV still is trying to keep their tradition of mattering but I think the MTV award shows died early to mid 90's, once they became all about MTV real world and they started bringing in all the shows like "Im a teenage mom, or I slept with the babysitter" shit or MTV Cribs, I mean if people think the 80's was the ME generation and decade, what the hell was MTV Cribs? Hey come look at what i waste my money on, similar to the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, and people in the industry wonder why they are viewed as "elite" to others, well just watch shows like that.

Agreed. Though I have to say, I kinda liked MTV Cribs. Nevermind the fact that it is pure showing off of what these people bought with the money we gave to them. It was better than Real world or Singled out though.

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I'm 46 and I can honestly say that I remember when MTV debuted back in 1981; I was 6. I credit MTV for opening my little world to a plethora of music. I remember seeing the Clash, Billy Squier, Michael Jackson, Prince, and Golden Earring. MTV used to be so cutting edge but as the years flew by, the station lost it's way. I hate to say it but MTV is a joke now. VMA's? Please. Call it something else but it's far from Music Television.

lastdecember said:

MTV has not had any relevance in almost thirty years, they are a joke. The fact they still have those award shows and people take it serious is a joke.

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If you have Direct TV or Dish, there is MTV Classic. At least that channel has that old-school MTV feel to it since it shows 80s & 90s music videos.

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But it's also kind of sad in a way, because I can watch most of those same videos anytime I want on YouTube, which makes MTV Classic as irrelevant as MTV itself.

Which means around 10 years of music and 30 years of bullshit.

kitbradley said:

Same with BET and VH1. All 3 networks went to hell in a hand basket when the public at large stopped caring about music and reality TV kicked in. [Edited 8/3/21 15:42pm]

Even when music turned to bullshit, VH1 tried to hang on for dear life longer than the other two with creative ways of showing music such as "8 Track Flashback" and airing old episodes of "American Bandstand", "Solid Gold", "The Midnight Special", and "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert". But by the 2000s, even VH1 had turned to bullshit also.

SoulAlive said:

I remember when I first starting watching MTV.We got cable TV in the spring of ‘82.We turned on MTV and I noticed they kept showing this commercial: “this Friday night,we will have the world premiere of the new Go Go’s video,“Vacation”! this was back in the days when a new video premiere was a big deal.

We never got it in my area until around 1984 and when it first popped up, it must have been a premium channel because it came across on the dial with a scrambled signal like HBO. You could hear it but the picture was scrambled. They had free weekends sometimes when the channel would be unscrambled but I watched most of my videos in those days from "Friday Night Videos" on NBC and "Night Tracks" which used to air all night on Fridays and Saturdays on WTBS.

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MotownSubdivision said:

I think it's worth noting that to this day, the MTV brass still dip, dodge, deflect and deny the network's original racist premise. Les Garland (MTV's executive VP and head programmer) is the most notorious culprit. The excuses he pulls out his ass to save face are hilarious in their stupidity.

Read the book "I Want My MTV" and the situation makes some sense. There was no channel like MTV before, and the people who worked on it were all used to segregated radio formats. They wanted to target a market of rock listeners and areas of the states that wouldn't have had the market for a black radio station. Prince and others proved them wrong. Rick James was understandably mad they didn't support 1981's Street Songs.

Marrk said:

But it really died in it's teenage years.

When it comes to music, didn't we all?

vainandy said:

Which means around 10 years of music and 30 years of bullshit.

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THAT!^

Cinny said:

vainandy said:

SoulAlive said:

I remember when I first starting watching MTV.We got cable TV in the spring of ‘82.We turned on MTV and I noticed they kept showing this commercial: “this Friday night,we will have the world premiere of the new Go Go’s video,“Vacation”! this was back in the days when a new video premiere was a big deal.

We never got it in my area until around 1984 and when it first popped up, it must have been a premium channel because it came across on the dial with a scrambled signal like HBO. You could hear it but the picture was scrambled. They had free weekends sometimes when the channel would be unscrambled but I watched most of my videos in those days from "Friday Night Videos" on NBC and "Night Tracks" which used to air all night on Fridays and Saturdays on WTBS.

I loved 'Night Tracks'!