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Paris Jackson talks about her father Michael

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Now, just days away from her 23rd birthday, the King of Pop’s only daughter is sharing how he raised her and how he continues to shape her life.
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“My dad was really good about making sure we were cultured, making sure we were educated, and not just showing us, like, the glitz and glam — like hotel hopping, five-star places,” Jackson told Naomi Campbell in an interview for the supermodel's YouTube series, “No Filter.”
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Looking back now, she regards it as "a blessing and a privilege to be able to experience so much at a young age." And she feels fortunate that her father gave her so much more than just a material inheritance. The music legend left her with enough life lessons to last a lifetime.

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"I’m also a full believer that I should earn everything," she said of her position in life now, as she pursues a number of careers in entertainment and fashion. "I need to go to auditions. I work hard. I study scripts. I do my thing."

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"Even growing up it was about earning stuff," she recalled. "If we wanted five toys from FAO Schwarz or Toys ‘R’ Us, we had to read five books. It’s earning it, not just being entitled to certain things or thinking, ‘Oh, I got this.’ It’s like working for it, working hard for it, it’s something else entirely. It’s an accomplishment."


"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #1 posted 04/01/21 10:54pm

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Aw I like that about reading 5 books to get 5 toys!
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Reply #2 posted 04/02/21 10:20am

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i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know

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Reply #3 posted 04/02/21 10:54am

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RJOrion said:

i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know


I don't plan on going back n' forth over this, but I am going to say this: I do believe MJ is the bio-dad of those kids. The fact that Prince has vitiligo is a very telling sign. And Paris and Prince look just alike. There are pics and moments where MJ's features are quite evident in their faces.

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"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 04/02/21 10:54am

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alphastreet said:

Aw I like that about reading 5 books to get 5 toys!


Yeah, I thought that was an ingenius way to get a kid to read.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #5 posted 04/02/21 11:20am

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RJOrion said:

i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know


Even if she was adopted, how do you think kids call their addoptive dad?
I never know why people bring this up with michael jackson. They are his kids. Addopted or not.
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Reply #6 posted 04/02/21 11:37am

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TrivialPursuit said:

RJOrion said:

i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know


I don't plan on going back n' forth over this, but I am going to say this: I do believe MJ is the bio-dad of those kids. The fact that Prince has vitiligo is a very telling sign. And Paris and Prince look just alike. There are pics and moments where MJ's features are quite evident in their faces.

there is no way biologically possible that a man as dark skinned with coarse hair and african lips and nose like the real Michael Jackson did, can conceive children that are 100% European in ethnicity...and youre right...no need to go back and forth because the truth can not be debated or cchanged.... those are by every reasonable, biological, logical and scientific conclusion, not Michael Jackson's biological children

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Reply #7 posted 04/02/21 12:01pm

RJOrion

nextedition said:

RJOrion said:

i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know

Even if she was adopted, how do you think kids call their addoptive dad? I never know why people bring this up with michael jackson. They are his kids. Addopted or not.

because at some point Michael Jacksons name, legacy and financial interests will be passed down to the offspring of these adopted caucasian children and their children and their children...the lineal whitewashing of Michael Jacksons name and original culture may be cool for some, but it is an embarrassment and a source of discontent to most of Michael Jackson and The Jackson 5's fans of African descent...BUT,,,, MJ himself contributed mightily to this dubious situation, by skin bleaching and plastic surgeries and choosing a woman of european descent to be his surrogate mother and even a wife (Elvis daughter) of european descent , so it is what it is... the caucasian gentleman who supplied the sperm for those children has even made himself known and heard in the past...im not sure why some people are intent on claiming them as MJs biological children against all rational and scientific evidence...THATS why "people bring it up"...especially so-called "black" people

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Reply #8 posted 04/02/21 12:08pm

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Prince "Jackson" aka Michael Jackson's son...LMAO...allegedly, of course

Prince Jackson splashes in the ocean as he enjoys reunion vacation with  sister Paris | Daily Mail Online

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Reply #9 posted 04/02/21 12:09pm

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"THE KID IS NOT MY SON....NO NO NO..NANANA...NO...No.NO... WHOOOOOO!!!..."

~ Michael Jackson - "Billy Jean"

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Reply #10 posted 04/02/21 12:18pm

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no resemblance in any way to MJ, Katherine, Joseph, Janet, Reebie or any of her adopted surrogated cousins, uncles, nephews or nieces. some of whom are actually half white...Paris is a full blooded european descendant.

🇧🇷Paris Jackson Brasil🇧🇷 (@ParisJacksonBRA) | Twitter

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Reply #11 posted 04/02/21 12:44pm

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LOL...they tried it....i guess they dont know that post surgical features arent hereditary...

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Reply #12 posted 04/02/21 12:46pm

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Reply #13 posted 04/02/21 1:21pm

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Being a real father is light years away from being a sperm donor. confused

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Reply #14 posted 04/02/21 1:28pm

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Being a real father is light years away from being a sperm donor. confused

exactly...its a slap in the face to us REAL fathers who are in our sons and daughters lives before and after birth, and raise them, and nuture, lead, and teach them, on a daily basis...many rich folks buy kids and/or surrogate parents, and hire maids and nannys and therapists to raise children, like they are some kind of pets or commodities.

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Reply #15 posted 04/02/21 2:08pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

RJOrion said:

i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know


I don't plan on going back n' forth over this, but I am going to say this: I do believe MJ is the bio-dad of those kids. The fact that Prince has vitiligo is a very telling sign. And Paris and Prince look just alike. There are pics and moments where MJ's features are quite evident in their faces.

I just have to speak up here. Michael Jackson was not these kids biological dad, and I think everyone knows that. I also don't believe that Michael had vitiligo either, that he just used that as an excuse because he didn't want to admit that he bleached his skin white, because he had a problem with being black. Now, I have no problem with Paris and the others calling Michael their dad, because he was the man who raised them from birth, no matter how he got them, through surrogacy, a sperm donor, or what not, but I do not believe that he was their biological dad, and I don't think many others believe that either.

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Reply #16 posted 04/02/21 2:12pm

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looby said:



TrivialPursuit said:




RJOrion said:


i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know




I don't plan on going back n' forth over this, but I am going to say this: I do believe MJ is the bio-dad of those kids. The fact that Prince has vitiligo is a very telling sign. And Paris and Prince look just alike. There are pics and moments where MJ's features are quite evident in their faces.



I just have to speak up here. Michael Jackson was not these kids biological dad, and I think everyone knows that. I also don't believe that Michael had vitiligo either, that he just used that as an excuse because he didn't want to admit that he bleached his skin white, because he had a problem with being black. Now, I have no problem with Paris and the others calling Michael their dad, because he was the man who raised them from birth, no matter how he got them, through surrogacy, a sperm donor, or what not, but I do not believe that he was their biological dad, and I don't think many others believe that either.



common sense has entered the chat...
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Reply #17 posted 04/02/21 2:17pm

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RJOrion said:

Michael Jackson 8 inch x 10 inch Photo Young Michael in Purple & White  Flowered Shirt Ferns in Background kn at Amazon's Entertainment  Collectibles Store

Not a sign of vitiligo visible. So if Michael had vitiligo, it must have been in a place on his body, not visible to public eye, so why then go through the process of bleaching your whole body, if the vitiligo was not visible?

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Reply #19 posted 04/02/21 2:46pm

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I think I read that both Paris and Prince's 'bio' dad was a long-time friend of Michael's, Mark Lester.

Apparently, Mark volunteered when Michael was upset that he wouldn't get to be a father after he and Lisa Marie divorced.

Debbie Rowe worked as a nurse in Michael's dermatologist's office and offered to carry the children though there is speculation she is not the biological mother.

Dr. Arne Klein is mentioned as well, the dermatologist.

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[Edited 4/2/21 15:06pm]

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Reply #20 posted 04/02/21 2:50pm

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Also, Joe Jackson frequently criticized Michael's nose and I think it contributed to his insecurity.

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Reply #21 posted 04/02/21 3:41pm

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Mj is their dad. He tucked them in, loved them, picked them up when they fell down. Loved them.

I've actually often thought Paris may be his biological child as she looked mixed as a child. Biologically Prince has to be Arnold kleins. Prince II, who knows he isn't out in media. but it does seem prince has vitiligo.


Prince seems a lovely unselfish charitable man, his father's son. Michael should be so proud of him.

Paris seems unmaterialistic, although she can afford to be. That is a result of good parenting.


Mj was a strong good parent if you judge him by his children.

Prince II seems to shun the spotlight, sensible guy.


rjorion you seem 1000% against thel being his biological kids, I tend to agree but - is it scientifically possible that African American genes can be entirely overridden? Perhaps Debbie rowe has crazy strong genes? Or 2 sperms, can they fertilise an egg in ivf?? Ie klein and Jackson for prince? But I do see your point.. Just thinking of any possibilities but not a scientist!!
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looby said:



TrivialPursuit said:




RJOrion said:


i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know




I don't plan on going back n' forth over this, but I am going to say this: I do believe MJ is the bio-dad of those kids. The fact that Prince has vitiligo is a very telling sign. And Paris and Prince look just alike. There are pics and moments where MJ's features are quite evident in their faces.



I just have to speak up here. Michael Jackson was not these kids biological dad, and I think everyone knows that. I also don't believe that Michael had vitiligo either, that he just used that as an excuse because he didn't want to admit that he bleached his skin white, because he had a problem with being black. Now, I have no problem with Paris and the others calling Michael their dad, because he was the man who raised them from birth, no matter how he got them, through surrogacy, a sperm donor, or what not, but I do not believe that he was their biological dad, and I don't think many others believe that either.


Wasn't the vitiligo on MJs autopsy report? I never read it so I can't verify but I swore I read his vitiligo was officiated by that report.

Wasn't Debbie Rowe the mother for 2 of them?
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


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Reply #23 posted 04/02/21 3:56pm

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RJOrion said:

looby said:

I just have to speak up here. Michael Jackson was not these kids biological dad, and I think everyone knows that. I also don't believe that Michael had vitiligo either, that he just used that as an excuse because he didn't want to admit that he bleached his skin white, because he had a problem with being black. Now, I have no problem with Paris and the others calling Michael their dad, because he was the man who raised them from birth, no matter how he got them, through surrogacy, a sperm donor, or what not, but I do not believe that he was their biological dad, and I don't think many others believe that either.

common sense has entered the chat...

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Reply #24 posted 04/02/21 4:53pm

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onlyforaminute said:

looby said:



TrivialPursuit said:




RJOrion said:


i wonder how her actual biological father feels about her calling Michael her "father"...i guess her biological father got paid off good enough to guarantee his silence on the matter, so we may never know




I don't plan on going back n' forth over this, but I am going to say this: I do believe MJ is the bio-dad of those kids. The fact that Prince has vitiligo is a very telling sign. And Paris and Prince look just alike. There are pics and moments where MJ's features are quite evident in their faces.



I just have to speak up here. Michael Jackson was not these kids biological dad, and I think everyone knows that. I also don't believe that Michael had vitiligo either, that he just used that as an excuse because he didn't want to admit that he bleached his skin white, because he had a problem with being black. Now, I have no problem with Paris and the others calling Michael their dad, because he was the man who raised them from birth, no matter how he got them, through surrogacy, a sperm donor, or what not, but I do not believe that he was their biological dad, and I don't think many others believe that either.


Wasn't the vitiligo on MJs autopsy report? I never read it so I can't verify but I swore I read his vitiligo was officiated by that report.

Wasn't Debbie Rowe the mother for 2 of them?

Yes it was on the report
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Reply #25 posted 04/02/21 5:02pm

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alphastreet said:

onlyforaminute said:


Wasn't the vitiligo on MJs autopsy report? I never read it so I can't verify but I swore I read his vitiligo was officiated by that report.

Wasn't Debbie Rowe the mother for 2 of them?

Yes it was on the report

Ok. I thought that issue was over. Just like the argument on whether they are his kids. Who cares? They inherit it all. The Jackson DNA will live on in so many others.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


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Reply #26 posted 04/02/21 5:07pm

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onlyforaminute said:

alphastreet said:


Yes it was on the report

Ok. I thought that issue was over. Just like the argument on whether they are his kids. Who cares? They inherit it all. The Jackson DNA will live on in so many others.




theres so much irony in the last sentence of your comment...😎
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Reply #27 posted 04/02/21 5:39pm

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Mj is their dad. He tucked them in, loved them, picked them up when they fell down. Loved them. I've actually often thought Paris may be his biological child as she looked mixed as a child. Biologically Prince has to be Arnold kleins. Prince II, who knows he isn't out in media. but it does seem prince has vitiligo. Prince seems a lovely unselfish charitable man, his father's son. Michael should be so proud of him. Paris seems unmaterialistic, although she can afford to be. That is a result of good parenting. Mj was a strong good parent if you judge him by his children. Prince II seems to shun the spotlight, sensible guy. rjorion you seem 1000% against thel being his biological kids, I tend to agree but - is it scientifically possible that African American genes can be entirely overridden? Perhaps Debbie rowe has crazy strong genes? Or 2 sperms, can they fertilise an egg in ivf?? Ie klein and Jackson for prince? But I do see your point.. Just thinking of any possibilities but not a scientist!! [Edited 4/2/21 15:52pm]

I assume that it's scientifically possible that genes "can be overidden" in any race, but the Jacksons have very strong genes. Take for example, Michael's brothers children, some who have a very strong resemblance to the Jackson family, for example the ones known as the 3-T's, Tito's sons I think. One of them resembles his uncle Michael a lot, and even talks likes him. And all the Jackson siblings by Joe and Katherine resemble each other, and none of Michael's kids look like Michael or any of the other Jacksons, imo.

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Reply #28 posted 04/02/21 6:19pm

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I think Michael was a good father as it is reflected in his children. They seem genuine and speak so lovingly of him.

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looby said:



coldcoffeeandcocacola said:


Mj is their dad. He tucked them in, loved them, picked them up when they fell down. Loved them. I've actually often thought Paris may be his biological child as she looked mixed as a child. Biologically Prince has to be Arnold kleins. Prince II, who knows he isn't out in media. but it does seem prince has vitiligo. Prince seems a lovely unselfish charitable man, his father's son. Michael should be so proud of him. Paris seems unmaterialistic, although she can afford to be. That is a result of good parenting. Mj was a strong good parent if you judge him by his children. Prince II seems to shun the spotlight, sensible guy. rjorion you seem 1000% against thel being his biological kids, I tend to agree but - is it scientifically possible that African American genes can be entirely overridden? Perhaps Debbie rowe has crazy strong genes? Or 2 sperms, can they fertilise an egg in ivf?? Ie klein and Jackson for prince? But I do see your point.. Just thinking of any possibilities but not a scientist!! [Edited 4/2/21 15:52pm]

I assume that it's scientifically possible that genes "can be overidden" in any race, but the Jacksons have very strong genes. Take for example, Michael's brothers children, some who have a very strong resemblance to the Jackson family, for example the ones known as the 3-T's, Tito's sons I think. One of them resembles his uncle Michael a lot, and even talks likes him. And all the Jackson siblings by Joe and Katherine resemble each other, and none of Michael's kids look like Michael or any of the other Jacksons, imo.

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good point...and Tito has the lightest complexion of all the Jackson brothers ...so if anyone would have had his "genes overridden" it would have been his...Michael and Jermaine were by far the darkest skinned boys in the family...why doesnt Jermaine have any big burly caucasian children?...hmmm?
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