RJOrion said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Only on the Org can someone ask about Madonna, and it end up going off a cliff with motherfuckers talking about the goddamn Freemasons. SMH

be clear, Mr. Pursuit...i have NEVER fucked my mother...Please do not refer to me as a "motherfucker"...it is one of the most disrespectful things you can say to a man in many cultures...

I did name names. And I won't play semantics.

My point stands about a thread being so easily derailed into something absolutely unrelated and irrelevant to the OP's thread.

I really like the way she looked during the Ray of Light era. Having recently become a mother sure made she glow up a bit.

Cherish video. Always the Cherish video.

Matthaus said:

I really like the way she looked during the Ray of Light era. Having recently become a mother sure made she glow up a bit.

That whole photo shoot was so beautiful, I'd agree. It's one thing to change a look, but when she came out after EVITA and having Lordes, the ROL look really was a re-invention. Her voice was so on point during that time, too. Her vocal training with Joan Lader for EVITA paid off the most for Ray of Light.




I also loved a lot of the urban hippy chic look during Bedtime Stories. The album cover was so great.

RJOrion said:

she looks pale and ghastly in the Bedtime Stories photos

That's the editing, and you know it. One of them is more realistic and it's great.

TrivialPursuit said:

Matthaus said:

I really like the way she looked during the Ray of Light era. Having recently become a mother sure made she glow up a bit.

That whole photo shoot was so beautiful, I'd agree. It's one thing to change a look, but when she came out after EVITA and having Lordes, the ROL look really was a re-invention. Her voice was so on point during that time, too. Her vocal training with Joan Lader for EVITA paid off the most for Ray of Light.




I also loved a lot of the urban hippy chic look during Bedtime Stories. The album cover was so great.

Agree 200%

And she must've seen the OP's post, because bitch....

I support a 62 year-old Madonna still owning her sexual positivity and not giving a fuck about anyone's ageist, misogynistic, uninformed opinions. Get it, diva!




And don't even talk about her age, because if a 62 year old man were to post pics like this (like Viggo Mortenson, Alec Baldwin, Kevin Bacon, Jack Coleman, Lorenzo Lamas, Julian Sands), people would be all "wow, so hot," "dad bod FTW," etc.

RJOrion said:

and there she is again making more Satanic hand/finger gestures in that one Ray Of Light photo

And for half a century I thought in using those same hand signs I was doing the "A-okay" gesture.

purplethunder3121 said:

Making the "OK" sign isn't going to make Lucifer ascend from hell and rape yo asses or anything. He doesn't give a fuck. Nothing is "hidden in plain site" except that obtuse part of the population that believes everything is of Satan.

Knuckleheads on YouTube were making these long ass videos about Katy Perry and Beyonce's Super Bowl halftime shows like it was their job. "Well, you see the duality with the backdrop," "black and white, obviously about duality," "blue and red, clearly illuminati references." Red and blue are now illuminati?? Fuck off with that shit. And what about duality? How is that evil?

If Christians remembered that they/we're spirit beings have a human experience, they'd remember we all have two sides. It just gets in a rut of morose conjecture with absolutely no scientific fact. Yet, someone can find a site that "digs deep" online, and voila - everyone's a goddamn expert on something that doesn't exist.

Christians and alleged well-doers give evil more power than it could ever attain on its own. If the devil is real, I can only imagine he's saying, "can y'all get off my jock for a minute?"

There's an ABC affiliate in Oklahoma City, KOCO-TV, that used to have a campaign that "Oklahoma is okay!" and people all over the city had been filmed flashing the OK sign (as seen here at the 24:29 mark). I guess in the buckle of the bible belt, we were just slaves to Satan... or some damn thing. Funny story: none of these kids grew up to summon the devil. Either it's bullshit, or the illuminati's campaign of world domination just ain't going to ever happen.

The only mystery is how people keep believing dumb shit. The real way the devil wins is distraction. He's got those folks hooked like a fish.

TrivialPursuit said:

alphastreet said:

Agree with this, most of it is bullshit and easy to make fun of, people are always going to believe what they want to believe and this is where I agree to disagree

And to be clear, before anyone gets up in their feelings about it, I'm fully attacking the ideology of an OK sign being some hidden satanic symbol (because after how many centuries or millenia have people been using it and nothing has happened yet?), and all that around it. Folks are going to believe whatever, so it's easier to attack the idea and discredit it for the bullshit it is.

But someone once said something to the effect of whatever you believe in, that's your reward. That's your payoff. People don't do things without a payoff. They get something out of it; no one does something just because. So people believing in a deep state or illuminati or whatever, it's rewarding for them. They get something out of it. I'm not always suprised when people go down rabbit holes like this - people want to feel like they're on top of something, that it's not all just a simulation or whatever.

But it seems like there could be better efforts toward contentment than believing an OK sign is going to pull up the devil after...how many thousands of years?

TrivialPursuit said:

And she must've seen the OP's post, because bitch....

I support a 62 year-old Madonna still owning her sexual positivity and not giving a fuck about anyone's ageist, misogynistic, uninformed opinions. Get it, diva!

ooh I can't wait to see momma's new album with this body in a photoshoot

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TrivialPursuit said:

Making the "OK" sign isn't going to make Lucifer ascend from hell...

I'm going to say I admire your patience in answering those other posts, and further contribute to this thread with this lovely shot from the 80s.

Madonna's mother died when she was 5. Her father remarried and the adjustment was difficult because she had to share her father's attention. The family was very Catholic.

I see Madonna as a survivor who has had to chart her own course.

She seems sad (motherless) to me.

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TrivialPursuit said:

And she must've seen the OP's post, because bitch....

I support a 62 year-old Madonna still owning her sexual positivity and not giving a fuck about anyone's ageist, misogynistic, uninformed opinions. Get it, diva!




And don't even talk about her age, because if a 62 year old man were to post pics like this (like Viggo Mortenson, Alec Baldwin, Kevin Bacon, Jack Coleman, Lorenzo Lamas, Julian Sands), people would be all "wow, so hot," "dad bod FTW," etc.

I wouldn't. Man or woman, 62 is 62, your senior years, not a teenager, middle aged....a senior, I don't care who you are, nor how much botox, surgery, lifts, tucks, and whatever else you gotten to try to stay relevant and look young.

Matthaus said:

looby said:

She's a grand dame now and can relax. I would prefer her to dress more elegantly

and stop trying so hard. I'm not a fan but she's put a lot of effort into her career.

alphastreet said:

looby said:

I wouldn't. Man or woman, 62 is 62, your senior years, not a teenager, middle aged....a senior, I don't care who you are, nor how much botox, surgery, lifts, tucks, and whatever else you gotten to try to stay relevant and look young.

Love her, but the botox didn’t do her any favours

I agree. For some reason, she kind of looks like Sharon Osbourne to me in that photo.

For me, the Madonna experience is audio-only these days. It's hard to look at what she's done to herself, and the personality that comes across in interviews and social media is increasingly unpleasant and cold. Not a person I want to hang out with.

But I still think the music can be interesting. A few songs on every album, which is about what you'd expect for a veteran artist. I still root for her, but I can't look.

Mintchip said:

alphastreet said:

Mintchip said:

For me, the Madonna experience is audio-only these days. It's hard to look at what she's done to herself, and the personality that comes across in interviews and social media is increasingly unpleasant and cold. Not a person I want to hang out with.

But I still think the music can be interesting. A few songs on every album, which is about what you'd expect for a veteran artist. I still root for her, but I can't look.

Yes I took her off Instagram for her silly behaviour but love Madame x

Her behavior in recent years has been pretty silly, agreed, but she certainly has kept herself in great physical condition all these years through working out. But the dancing in high heels needs to end, considering her recent injuries. And she does need to lay off the fillers though.

if only i could have just one drag...

nayroo2002 said:

if only i could have just one drag...

Believe me (former smoker), the craving will leave eventually. Hang in there.

purplethunder3121 said: