CynicKill said:

It rears it's ugly head:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/...index.html

This is quite ironic and funny:

https://adobochronicles.c...sentation/

RJOrion said:

CynicKill said:

It rears it's ugly head:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/...index.html

culture vultures getting called out...it's a beautiful thing

'Culture vulture', I love that phrase. My wife (Kenyan) says the same about black Americans appropriating African culture and also calls them culture vultures.
To her 'Black' or 'White' culture is only a thing in the US and is are both just American culture.

RJOrion said:

CynicKill said:

It rears it's ugly head:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/...index.html

culture vultures getting called out...it's a beautiful thing

Who put salt in your breakfast [N word snip - luv4u] ??

Y'all just shooting at the hip here, not making any sense whatsoever.

Bruno keep winning them Grammys and earning millions and y'all in your homes behind a computer screen butthurt cause he making fire music Pathetic ass niggas

Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, Charlie Wilson, they ALL defended Bruno back when that cultural appropriation bullshit was trending years back Completely backfired on those resentful ass niggas in that podcast.

And can I remind y'all that black people ALSO steal from other cultures? What about all those movies where Black people were Samurais and shit ? Oh and "Black" Anime is now a thing, but you don't see any fuss cause them Japanese have way more going on in their lives than being pressed over someone using their culture for profit.

That hoe in the podcast was so pressed Made fun of from almost every black person on Twitter the next day.

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All this aside, like Bruno said, lotta black artists have not been given their due flowers, but that has nothing to do with him He grew up to that shit and his voice is hands down the best voice in pop music we've heard in the last 20 years. We black people should be grateful he's making R&B/funk/soul music and reviving that shit when the radio is literally crowded with shitty ass and monotonous trap music and that cringey ass Bryson Tiller shit

Shawy89 said:

[N word snip - luv4u]

RJOrion said:

Shawy89 said:

Who put salt in your breakfast nigga ??

Y'all just shooting at the hip here, not making any sense whatsoever.

Bruno keep winning them Grammys and earning millions and y'all in your homes behind a computer screen butthurt cause he making fire music Pathetic ass niggas

Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, Charlie Wilson, they ALL defended Bruno back when that cultural appropriation bullshit was trending years back Completely backfired on those resentful ass niggas in that podcast.

And can I remind y'all that black people ALSO steal from other cultures? What about all those movies where Black people were Samurais and shit ? Oh and "Black" Anime is now a thing, but you don't see any fuss cause them Japanese have way more going on in their lives than being pressed over someone using their culture for profit.

That hoe in the podcast was so pressed Made fun of from almost every black person on Twitter the next day.

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All this aside, like Bruno said, lotta black artists have not been given their due flowers, but that has nothing to do with him He grew up to that shit and his voice is hands down the best voice in pop music we've heard in the last 20 years. We black people should be grateful he's making R&B/funk/soul music and reviving that shit when the radio is literally crowded with shitty ass and monotonous trap music and that cringey ass Bryson Tiller shit

i guarantee you wouldnt call me [N word snip - luv4u] to my face...100%... but go ahead enjoy your 10 seconds of internet courage....its all you have. [Edited 3/9/21 6:19am]

[Bait/N word snip - luv4u]

Shawy89 said:

RJOrion said:

CynicKill said: culture vultures getting called out...it's a beautiful thing

Who put salt in your breakfast [N word snip - luv4u] ??

Y'all just shooting at the hip here, not making any sense whatsoever.

Bruno keep winning them Grammys and earning millions and y'all in your homes behind a computer screen butthurt cause he making fire music Pathetic ass niggas

Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, Charlie Wilson, they ALL defended Bruno back when that cultural appropriation bullshit was trending years back Completely backfired on those resentful ass niggas in that podcast.

And can I remind y'all that black people ALSO steal from other cultures? What about all those movies where Black people were Samurais and shit ? Oh and "Black" Anime is now a thing, but you don't see any fuss cause them Japanese have way more going on in their lives than being pressed over someone using their culture for profit.

That hoe in the podcast was so pressed Made fun of from almost every black person on Twitter the next day.

===

All this aside, like Bruno said, lotta black artists have not been given their due flowers, but that has nothing to do with him He grew up to that shit and his voice is hands down the best voice in pop music we've heard in the last 20 years. We black people should be grateful he's making R&B/funk/soul music and reviving that shit when the radio is literally crowded with shitty ass and monotonous trap music and that cringey ass Bryson Tiller shit

I don't agree with you calling RJOrion (or anyone else for that matter) a '[N word snip - luv4u] (I think even black people should stop using that word personally). Talking about pathetic, that is even more pathetic than calling out Bruno for being a 'culture vulture'...

Shawy89 said:

RJOrion said:

Shawy89 said: i guarantee you wouldnt call me [N word snip - luv4u] to my face...100%... but go ahead enjoy your 10 seconds of internet courage....its all you have. [Edited 3/9/21 6:19am]]

Who put salt in your breakfast [N word snip - luv4u]

[Flame snip - luv4u]

I just posted the article because I knew this subject would come up after hearing the record.

Cultural appropriation typically isn't my debate of choice but there's one telling thing:

I've watched a few youtube reviews and I swear it's like Anderson Paak isn't even a part of this record. I saw one where the guy says, "I don't know who Anderson Paak is and the only one I heard singing is Bruno Mars" and I was like dude, I saw you watch the video! What were you looking at?

I guess it's a given being that Bruno Mars is one of the most popular artists in the world and people are only here for him, but it doesn't look good for a soul renaissance, unless Bruno Mars is doing it.

Is somebody using Shawny's name?

Leave the Door Open is a masterpiece. Better than most Prince ballads. May be better than Adore.

2freaky4church1 said:

Leave the Door Open is a masterpiece. Better than most Prince ballads. May be better than Adore.

Ahhh I see what you did there you crafty little minx.

Good way to keep the conversation going.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

CynicKill said:

I really like "Leave The Door Open." I'm looking forward to the new record.

I ain't even got time for the culture vulture bullshit, like Prince didn't copy over other muthafukka before him. All those fills, silky ballads, big group songs, etc., - James, Sly, Santana, Parliament, etc etc.

People bark about "music ain't what it used to be," or "music died in 1990," but when a real musician actually makes real music folks are suddenly up in their feelings calling it appropriation. You can't have it both ways.

Y'all don't like Bruno. Go buy something else. I mean goddamn, Bootsy's on the fucking record. Listen up or sit down.

onlyforaminute said:

RJOrion said:

MotownSubdivision said:

RJOrion said:

RJOrion said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Don't assume to much about all of us. I'm a black man myself so you're preaching to the choir about the music industry. Bruno benefits from its racist double standards but he's not a party to them and y'all need to stop forcing that narrative. Of all the people to label a culture vulture, you choose the person of color with black ethnic origins who has a genuine enthusiasm for the music who grew up on, creates it with a passion and is successful as well as humble and open about his influences. Don't hate the player, hate the game and direct the energy to the real leeches out there like Miley Cyrus and those who borrow from our music but are even quicker to make ignorant, misinformed comments on it like Post Malone and Billie Eilish. [Edited 3/10/21 13:23pm]

how is Bruno Mars black?...is his mother black? ..no...is his father black?..no..does he signify as black on the census report, or any other way?..no...no one has ever heard Bruno claim any parts of Africa or African descent...does he get called N words and beaten by cops?...is he African?...no...he's as black as Rachael Dolezal is...at least she admitted to wanting to be black...unlike alot of others...i dont care how olive complexioned he may be, or how many curlers he puts in his hair, Bruno Mars is NOT a black man...but you can claim him if you like..

He may not be 'Black' but he still has the right to make the music he wants to make with the people he wants to wether you like it or not. At least he's trying to expose 'Black' music to a new generation of airheads and he has the support of a legion of 'Black' artists and company men.
Besides there's a legion of more intelligent people who claim that every human being on earth is of African dsecent because they claim life started there. So your point is moot.

I completly agree with you that 'Black' musicians were treated badly and profitted of by 'White' execs and artists back in teh day. But that isn't relevant anymore because theese days there are enough so called 'Black' producers and execs that are now pimping an reaping the profits of 'White' musicians and, rightfully so, nobody cares or minds.

In the end it's just music and anyone can create whatever they want.

JorisE73 said:
I completly agree with you that 'Black' musicians were treated badly and profitted of by 'White' execs and artists back in teh day.

Record companies ripped off everybody, no matter what race they were. That's how The Beatles & other songwriters lost their publishing that Michael Jackson could buy in the 1980s. Others like Billy Joel was ripped off by his manager. Concert promoters, record distibuters, club owners, etc. also ripped off acts. James Brown would not perform unless he got paid beforehand. Many businesses are not honest, why should people expect the entertainment business to be an exception? Nike has been known to use sweatshops. If you eat chocolate, there's a chance unpaid slave labor is behind it picking the beans. When there's a hurricane, some stores raise the price of products that have a high demand.

MickyDolenz said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Nobody is saying non-blacks didn't have it hard in the music biz. However, much like life itself, for whatever hardships they've experienced, it was never due to their skin color.

How many non-white or non-black became big mainstream music stars in the USA (or as actors for that matter). Maybe a few of Latino background such as Desi Arnaz, Santana, & Miami Sound Machine. Asians & Native Americans are just about non-existant. There was Sukiyaki by Kyu Sakamoto in the 1960s and Redbone's Come And Get Your Love in the 1970s. Don Ho was often on TV shows during the 1970s, but had 1 or 2 big radio hits. Black performers had more success than other non-white races. How many Arabs had Top 10 hits in the USA?

MickyDolenz said:

MotownSubdivision said:

MotownSubdivision said:

RJOrion said:

and Bruno Mars isnt the only artist i mention in this vein...but the thread has his name on it and is about his project..but yeah theres countless culture vultures: Lyor Cohen Justin Timberlake Jark Harlow Eminem Elvis Presley Vanilla Ice Murray The K (old school) Franki Valli and the Four Seasons Miley Cyrus bad Barbie (?) Iggy Azaelia Harry Casey etc etc etc etc too many to fit em all

My point was that you shouldn't be mentioning Bruno in that vein at all.

I find Bruno Mars highly likeable and a great entertainer but his music is incredibly derivative, pretty much by design. I wouldn't include him on a list with Elvis Presley more because at his best Elvis was more forward looking that Bruno has ever been...