Thread started 02/25/21 3:29pmJabarR74
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Battle Of The Jacksons' Songs: One More Chance |
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Reply #1 posted 02/25/21 3:40pm
Reply #2 posted 02/25/21 3:48pm
Reply #3 posted 02/25/21 3:54pm
RODSERLING
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The J5 song is one my favourite from the band. The Jacksons song was clearly a huge inspiration for Phil Collins' One More Night |
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Reply #4 posted 02/25/21 4:01pm
alphastreet |
RODSERLING said: The J5 song is one my favourite from the band. The Jacksons song was clearly a huge inspiration for Phil Collins' One More Night I’ve also heard that, one more night is great and definitely Jackson-esque |
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Reply #5 posted 02/25/21 4:17pm
TrivialPursuit
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Janet made the song what it should've been all along.
I always wondered why she covered this song, but I sorta think it was to help Randy out financially. It was either Janet or Michael which had a monthly allowance going to Marlon and/or Randy for quite a while. (I remember seeing a document, but I couldn't tell you where/what.)
He had to make some money on it, since "If" was such a huge single. I know I bought it (loved most of the remixes) back in the day. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #6 posted 02/25/21 4:28pm
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TrivialPursuit said: Janet made the song what it should've been all along.
I always wondered why she covered this song, but I sorta think it was to help Randy out financially. It was either Janet or Michael which had a monthly allowance going to Marlon and/or Randy for quite a while. (I remember seeing a document, but I couldn't tell you where/what.)
He had to make some money on it, since "If" was such a huge single. I know I bought it (loved most of the remixes) back in the day. Interesting, I never heard that before. |
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Reply #7 posted 02/26/21 6:48am
Reply #8 posted 02/26/21 8:10am
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These were not all the same song, though.
So, which song with the same title is the best, or what?
The R Kelly song?
The R Jackson song? "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #9 posted 02/26/21 10:41am
Reply #10 posted 02/26/21 10:43am
TrivialPursuit
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nayroo2002 said:
These were not all the same song, though.
So, which song with the same title is the best, or what?
The R Kelly song?
The R Jackson song?
Yeah, that's the weirdness of the post. There's no real comparison except between Randy's version from Victory, and Janet's b-side cut. The others are pointless for comparison.
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #11 posted 02/26/21 11:00am
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TrivialPursuit said:
nayroo2002 said:
These were not all the same song, though.
So, which song with the same title is the best, or what?
The R Kelly song?
The R Jackson song?
Yeah, that's the weirdness of the post. There's no real comparison except between Randy's version from Victory, and Janet's b-side cut. The others are pointless for comparison.
And the OP never said it was. The question simply was, which "One more chance" is the best. |
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Reply #12 posted 02/26/21 11:20am
RJOrion |
PatrickS77 said:
TrivialPursuit said:
nayroo2002 said:
These were not all the same song, though.
So, which song with the same title is the best, or what?
The R Kelly song?
The R Jackson song?
Yeah, that's the weirdness of the post. There's no real comparison except between Randy's version from Victory, and Janet's b-side cut. The others are pointless for comparison.
And the OP never said it was. The question simply was, which "One more chance" is the best. ...word... |
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Reply #13 posted 02/26/21 1:55pm
RODSERLING
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TrivialPursuit said: Janet made the song what it should've been all along.
I always wondered why she covered this song, but I sorta think it was to help Randy out financially. It was either Janet or Michael which had a monthly allowance going to Marlon and/or Randy for quite a while. (I remember seeing a document, but I couldn't tell you where/what.)
He had to make some money on it, since "If" was such a huge single. I know I bought it (loved most of the remixes) back in the day. Correct me if I m wrong, but One more chance was only released on an obscure single in Japan. I don't know howhowit could have helped some of his brother. |
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Reply #14 posted 02/26/21 3:52pm
alphastreet |
I think Randy wrote it so he probably got some royalties for it |
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Reply #15 posted 02/26/21 4:11pm
TrivialPursuit
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RODSERLING said:
Correct me if I m wrong, but One more chance was only released on an obscure single in Japan. I don't know howhowit could have helped some of his brother.
You're wrong. "One More Chance" was the b-side to "If." I bought it at a regular record store back then (probably Sam Goody or Record Town), not an import. It was on the CD-maxi, and the basic single.
Randy wrote the song, which entitled him to songwriter royalties. He gets paid for someone to cover his song, and any resulting sales of anything that song is included with.
"If" was a massive single, which means even if he got a half percent or one percent of sales, he'd have gotten a chunk of change. This was way before Napster or the internet. People had to buy music to get it.
It wasn't just on the "If" single. It was also on the 2-CD limited edition janet. that was housed in a longbox-shaped book, which was higher priced. That was a Euro release, but still available in the U.S. I saw it at more than once place back then.
So yeah, it helped him financially.
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #16 posted 02/26/21 4:38pm
RODSERLING
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TrivialPursuit said:
RODSERLING said: Correct me if I m wrong, but One more chance was only released on an obscure single in Japan. I don't know howhowit could have helped some of his brother.
You're wrong. "One More Chance" was the b-side to "If." I bought it at a regular record store back then (probably Sam Goody or Record Town), not an import. It was on the CD-maxi, and the basic single.
Randy wrote the song, which entitled him to songwriter royalties. He gets paid for someone to cover his song, and any resulting sales of anything that song is included with.
"If" was a massive single, which means even if he got a half percent or one percent of sales, he'd have gotten a chunk of change. This was way before Napster or the internet. People had to buy music to get it.
It wasn't just on the "If" single. It was also on the 2-CD limited edition janet. that was housed in a longbox-shaped book, which was higher priced. That was a Euro release, but still available in the U.S. I saw it at more than once place back then.
So yeah, it helped him financially.
Ok, then if it were on the regular If single, that sold 1.3 millions worldwide, then it was good money for Randy. |
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Reply #17 posted 02/26/21 4:55pm
TrivialPursuit
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RODSERLING said:
TrivialPursuit said:
You're wrong. "One More Chance" was the b-side to "If." I bought it at a regular record store back then (probably Sam Goody or Record Town), not an import. It was on the CD-maxi, and the basic single.
Randy wrote the song, which entitled him to songwriter royalties. He gets paid for someone to cover his song, and any resulting sales of anything that song is included with.
"If" was a massive single, which means even if he got a half percent or one percent of sales, he'd have gotten a chunk of change. This was way before Napster or the internet. People had to buy music to get it.
It wasn't just on the "If" single. It was also on the 2-CD limited edition janet. that was housed in a longbox-shaped book, which was higher priced. That was a Euro release, but still available in the U.S. I saw it at more than once place back then.
So yeah, it helped him financially.
Ok, then if it were on the regular If single, that sold 1.3 millions worldwide, then it was good money for Randy.
Depending on his cut. A single likely has points just like an album does, although it's less money because a single may only be $6.99 compared to an $18 album back then. But the 2-CD janet. helped, too. Randy's always had money issues it seems. So to see him and Marlon on Janet's charity list wasn't a total surprise.
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #18 posted 02/26/21 10:27pm
Reply #19 posted 02/26/21 11:06pm
Free2BMe |
1. Michael Jackson
2. The Jacksons
3. Janet Jackson
4. Jackson 5
These are all different songs except Randy singing with the Jacksons and Janet’s remake of his version. I prefer Randy’s version over hers. [Edited 2/26/21 23:08pm]
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Reply #20 posted 02/27/21 10:38pm
MotownSubdivis ion |
I'm just gonna stick to Janet and The Jacksons here.
I prefer The Jacksons original. Those 80s synths set the mood perfectly. Janet's version is smoother but it strips some of that personality of the original's production in being so. |
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Reply #21 posted 02/28/21 3:02am
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The Janet version... I’m not a *massive* fan of hers, but bought the 7” and CD for “If” specifically to have copies of it. [Edited 2/28/21 3:08am]
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Reply #22 posted 03/01/21 11:10pm
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I actually like the MJ version best. I was surprised he released it as a single, as it was just an average, decent pop song. If not for the abuse allegations, I wonder if MJ wasn't going to be over making the massive, expensive albums and maybe settle into his legend status and just release singles and albums as he saw fit.
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