Will Prince ever leave Michael Jackson's shadow?

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Reply #90 posted 02/05/21 7:44am

RJOrion	fortuneandserendipity said: Say what you like about Michael Jackson, Thriller and Dangerous are Exhibit A albums. And if you disagree then the various lobes of your brain don't make sufficient connections. Disclaimer, sorry if that sounds abstract and technical. Not sorry. Dangerous is one of the greatest albums ever made...by anyone
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Reply #91 posted 02/05/21 9:58am

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MotownSubdivision said:
Where are you from? Because here in the States, Michael was in the news for the week plus after his death up to (and even after) his memorial service. Not to mention the service itself which was viewed by over 31 million people. Total views across all modes of broadcast were said to have tallied up to 2.5 billion; that I'm not so sure of but many news outlets stated this and it's highly possible considering that it was screened in many theaters across the country as well as those of various other nations overseas. If true, that would make it the most watched live broadcast in history. The media coverage on MJ's death superceded that of Pope John Paul II while the Nielsen rating reported 31.1 million viewers was comparable to Ronald Reagan's funeral service (35.1 million) as well as being the most watched event in online streaming history at a time when streaming was just a fledgling concept nowhere near the dominant format it is today. At the time, you could not change the channel without seeing or hearing Michael Jackson; he was unavoidable. That's not to mention the obligatory tributes at the VMAs, AMAs and the following year's Grammys as well as them going so far as to have him reprise his first verse posthumously in "We are The World 25". Oh yeah, so many people worldwide Googled Michael the day he died and in the days following that they crashed the site. And it's interesting that you specifically say it seems people forgot about him 3 years later because that is when Bad 25 came out. It did pretty well on the charts in many countries and was marketed almost like it was a brand new album even doing a promotional campaign with Pepsi. Also, there was "Love Never Felt So Good" with Timberlake in 2014 which hit the Top 10 in the US and charted high in various other territories including the album it came from (Xscape; his third posthumous release) which hit the Top 5 in all but one country including #2 here in the States. To this day, Michael is still used as a benchmark for success, he is constantly used by publications to make the names of today look good even when he isn't even the one they should be getting compared too. Just recently, Taylor Swift matched his number of weeks at #1 for albums and the headlines report it as her breaking his record when it isn't even his record to break (The Beatles hold the record while Michael stands in fourth (eventually fifth) place on the list). Then of course, there's the whole "The Eagles Surpass Thriller as the Greatest Selling Album" even though Thriller still is the greatest selling album the world over by a wide margin as The Eagles' Greatest Hits (not even an actual album of their's) has allegedly outsold him only in the US but they don't mention those details in the headlines which is all that the majority of people pay attention too. In spite of the media and press trying to diminish his legacy, he's still one of the most streamed artists of all time and is among the top if not at the absolute top of best-selling/streaming old school artists on a regular basis I'm sure there's more but I think that's plenty huge. EDIT: He was also inducted into the Dance Hall of Fame over a year after his death, becoming the first (and to date, IIRC only) pop star to receive the honor. [Edited 2/1/21 15:34pm]

Thank you for pointing out these FACTS! I guess these people were either too young or blind to see how the WORLD reacted to Michael’s death. It was unprecedented. I’ve never seen anything like it. It was as if a Head of State had died. You may have already mentioned this but the reaction was so overwhelming that the internet crashed and it was reported that they thought that there was an attack on the country. The reaction was in every city, every village etc. in the world.

I'm 47 and from the Netherlands and MJ's death was a hot topic for a week over here (Prince's death was a hot topic for at least 3 years.)
Like I said in the US it was probably huge but outside of the US it seemed 'forgotten' real fast compared to Prince's death. I'm not saying the World didn't react at all or something like you seem to imply but it was over real fast. Prince's death is still a thing outside of the US while MJ's isn't even mentioned at all anymore. This is not a dig or something it's just something that as a MJ and Prince fan struck me. These days when MJ is mentioned it's along the lines of bullshit pedo stuff or that Leaving Neverland garbage or bullshit discussions if it's still ok to listen to his music or play him on the radio.

You gotta look at it this way too.

Michael was always a topic of conversation and was a far bigger star than Prince who himself was a massive star and a musical legend in his own right. Prince, however was much more elusive and rarely discussed in mainstream circles; aside from the odd award show appearance here and there, P was not in the public light and access to his work wasn't nearly as accessible as Michael's or just about any other big name in music for that matter. When Prince died, that opened the floodgates for people to talk about him more and acknowledge his contributions because aside from a few moments in his career, he was rarely talked about. Plus, talking about one in death carries a different, more reverential tone.

Prince's videos and music being on YouTube is making a HUGE difference for his legacy which unfortunately, he himself hindered while alive. It's sad that it took his death for it to happen but now that his music is available on YT, billions of people, especially young people who aren't familiar with him or even know of him can see the man and what he did which opens up more avenues for discussion amongst more people, young and old alike. Michael was a prominent, well-publicized figure since childhood, he doesn't harbor as many unknowns as Prince did for that reason. It's not as though nobody is talking about him, it's that there's not as much to talk about now especially compared to the more recently departed Prince.
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khill95	Ya'll gotta stop pinning these kings together. Different artists, different music, different aesthetics. Let them be great in their own rights
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Mannheim	thebanishedone said: Prince was a musician and Jackson was an entertainer. Why comparing a dancer and singer to a musician? Do you compare Paula Abdul to Eddie Van Halen? [Edited 1/30/21 0:05am] A musician who released more mediocre albums than good albums? That is why he is in MJ's shadow
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Mannheim	khill95 said: Ya'll gotta stop pinning these kings together. Different artists, different music, different aesthetics. Let them be great in their own rights Prince a King? LoL Between them MJ is the only one who is the King Don't try to put Prince at MJ's level During his career he never reached MJ's level So don't call him king and try to rewrite the history
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MotownSubdivis ion	Is TC serious? Prince released nothing but mediocre albums...? WTF? Also, those implying Prince was a better singer and especially a better dancer than Mike? Are y'all kidding...? Is this the level of delusion some fans have driven themselves too?
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alphastreet	khill95 said: Ya'll gotta stop pinning these kings together. Different artists, different music, different aesthetics. Let them be great in their own rights This right here. Though mj is my favourite male artist, Prince is a close second
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Mannheim	even in death MJ still crushes Prince in every streaming platform and it is not even close that is why he is still in MJ's shadow On Spotify - Prince's catalog (over 40 albums) generated 1,669,932,940 plays Number of followers: 5,015,249 - Michael Jackson's catalog generated 7,352,871,522 plays Number of followers: 17,325,020
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