vainandy said:

phunkdaddy said:

You're talking about the Real Men Wear Black album. I remember liking the 1st side of that

album and snoozing through the second side of it. Til this day I can't name one song off

the second side of that album. They only had 2 singles from this album I Want It Now and

Close Quarters. The Barkays came out with 48 hrs I think in 1994. It was a nice mix of Funk and NJS ballads but it was a Funk/rock tune called X N Yo Sex that caught my ear the most.

I've got "48 Hours". "Slide", "X N Yo Sex", and the Megamix they had are the only things I liked on that album. About a year or two prior to that, they had a cassette single that wasn't from any album called "Put A Little Nasty On It" that I loved. The go-go song I was referring to was called "Struck By You". It was decent but very weak compared to previous Barkays stuff. It was from their album "Animal". The title track was the strongest thing I remember from that album. And if you notice, there are only three of them on the cover. Hell, there used to be about ten of them. That's another thing that fucked up music, cutting down the band members and it showed in the weakness of the music. I'm also thinking when Allen Jones died, that they became weaker.

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James Alexander actually left his own group in 1986. He was tired of Allen Jones strong hand

on the group and relentless touring and he wanted to get into prodcuction. Him and Mark Bynum left and formed their own group Focus which only released Zero In July. Larry stated in his book he heard James and Mark had issues with money. I remember Put A Little Nasty On It around 1993. I have the cassette single. I remember I kept waiting for an album and found out that the record company they were on Zoo Entertainment folded. Philip Bailey was on the label too as a solo artist. He put out an album about 1992. I have that cassette somewhere. I believe Winston Stewart left around that time to become minister of music at a church. That left only Larry and James with new recruits for the 48 hours album which was their last solid album imo.

vainandy said:

As for horns, it depends on the particular artist for me.

Horns mostly went out of style in general in 1980s mainstream music other than Kenny G/Clarence Clemons style sax solos. Although they didn't drop their horn section, there wasn't really any horns on Chicago's 1980s power ballad hits.

vainandy said:

thebanishedone said:

lol,very colorful description.I think for a good Cameo concert they need electronic drum pad (cause 99% of drum sounds were simmons electronic drums played by Blackmon himself),guitar ,bass and 2 synths.they dont need horns Early Cameo was high class virtuoso musicianship but still a rehash of what was already going on,in the 80s Cameo found it's niche.

My favorite Cameo era is Secret Omen, Cameosis, Feel Me, Knights Of The Sound Table, Alligator Woman, and Style.

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As for horns, it depends on the particular artist for me. For instance, I think Prince sounded much better before he started using horns. His replacement of horns by synths gave him a futuristic sound so when he started using horns, he sounded like he was going backwards to a more tradional sound instead of being in the future. Rick James, on the other hand, sounded weaker when he dropped them. I don't know if it was necessarily the elimination of horns in Rick's music because synths sounded great in his music too. But beginning with the "Glow" album, something was just lacking. Actually, it started a little on the "Cold Blooded" album, which was still great, but it didn't get bad until "Glow".

I actually liked the Glow album but the lead single Can't Stop was awful. WTF was Rick thinking.

It sounded like a cheesy 80's movie soundtrack song. The title track definitely saved the album but Moonchild would have been a hit too if it were released as a single instead of Spend The Night which I liked but Moonchild was slick. Mary J.Blige sampled it on one her songs and it was a huge hit for her.

JayCrawford said:

ReddBlitz said:

vainandy said:

JayCrawford said:

ReddBlitz said:

JayCrawford said:

ReddBlitz said:

ReddBlitz said:

Lmao Riiiight, whateva. Dude, how old are you? Who's been schooling you??

MickyDolenz said:

MickyDolenz said:

ReddBlitz said:

JayCrawford said:

ReddBlitz said:

JayCrawford said:

ReddBlitz said:

TrivialPursuit said:

MickyDolenz said:

It might have something to do with the race of the reggae artists because acts like The Police & Culture Club had reggae sounds & Blondie had a hit with the remake of The Tide Is High. No Doubt was ska based...

Also dub versions of songs came from reggae and dubs later became popular on remix 12" maxi singles.

I tell people this all the time, that all these New Romantic or new wave type bands in the early 80s were doing reggae music. So much of the underbeat rhythms were straight up reggae.

"The Tide is High" is a more obvious example. But if people took note of songs like, "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me," "Time (Clock of the Heart)," "I'll Tumble 4 Ya," and even "Karma Chameleon," there's a not-so-subtle reggae aesthetic.

Even with that so strong with Culture Club, Police pretty much made a career out of playing reggae music.

Ska musid had reggae tendencies as well, I believe, just a lot faster. It was almost a hybrid or a mutation of sorts.

These bands all grew out of punk which had a massive reggae crossover, whether you're talking the Clash, PiL, the Slits and so on into the 2-Tone stuff.. even Bob Marley wrote Punky Reggae Party to celebrate it. Culturally you're talking the influx of Jamacian/Caribbean people into the UK from the 1940s onwards. Blondie, while a New York band, were canny enough with pop music trends and open-minded enough to embrace the sound themselves. Not to mention the obvious musical and cultural melting pot that New York always has been.

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JayCrawford said:

ReddBlitz said:

What's hilarious is that you so solemnly swear I'm this "millennial," but rather, I'll just let you ramble on and on about such artists, genres, and eras that I definitely and distinctively know about. I was exposed to much, as well as to grow up in such, so spare me with the lectures and all what you think and swear in knowing. What has killed BLACK music altogether continuously, is one wicked, cutthroat, backstabbing, thieving industry known as the record business. Also, things change, people change. With each and every upcoming generation, new interests arise and tastes pushes forth into taking a new sort of form. It all then becomes like the "voice" and even as much as an identity within a new, young, and thriving generation. You so profoundly speak on the Soul music of the 1960s and 1970s, which were very innovative and pivotal eras respectfully. However, just think of the many Jazz musicians and the generation of that period to come before, who had a hard time accepting and seeing their genre of its day to be overtaken by this new genre called RHYTHM & BLUES, especially that of "The Sound of Young America," relatively known as MOTOWN. Again, in all I'm saying, things change. Technology has played a heavy role too in the evolution of music, from musicianship, producing, and how it is overall interpreted by an entire new generation. Hell, I can't stand much of this music polluting my ears now, but I keep in mind that every new generation and era has their own 'thang.' Not everything is always gonna be someone else's cup of tea. * Shrugs* [Edited 1/24/21 22:02pm]

Alright millennial continue spamming "lmfao" and you're right, my era the 60s and 70s were innovative and it was actually a great time in music. You actually needed to sing and people across all genres were innovative and creating new stuff and amazing album's. Great stuff was happening every week. Shame it hasn't been like that for 30 years. Shame you weren't there in real time throughout the 60s-70s. Damn shame. Anyways continue the pointless rambling. [Edited 1/24/21 22:10pm]

Right. As per usual, anyone lecturing, schooling and contradicting you is "rambling" and dismissed on the basis that they are not an old "Iknowitall/getoffmylawn" fuck like you and then you have the audacity to tell people they can't have a good discussion, when really, any word directed towards you is just a wasted one and the energy better saved. People are on to you and realize that the only one rambling and repeating the same shit, like a broken record, is you. And you still haven't grasped that no matter the age, we can fucking listen back to any music from any era, so age means NOTHING and is certainly no argument to help win a point, which begs the question of why do you feel the need to come here and argue with "children" you clearly don't respect. Don't you have any friends your own age? Or did they, the ones who are still alive, grow tired of your shit?

PatrickS77 said:

JayCrawford said:

JayCrawford said:

ReddBlitz said:

^^^^ Dayum!!! Both ya'all please don't derail this thread.

luv4u said:

NJS was R&B.

JayCrawford said:

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The moment you told me you are a Gen X this discussion became pointless. No offence but what is there to discuss and you're a Gen X? The 60s and 70s were the pinnacle of soul and you missed out. You were going super defense mode for New Jack Swing. It makes sense now. Music is generational. "Weak threads." I think my thread's are fine but many org members are pretty sensitive over certain topics... Especially that Patrick77 kid with the Michael Jackson photo whenever there's a Michael Jackson topic going on. Man the rage he has over his idol is pretty sad. Yeah I supposedly know nothing about music, you know more 😂👏 Also learn a new word instead of abusing "lmfao." Anymore insults you want to throw? [Edited 1/26/21 7:49am]

No one is sensitive. Just tired of your bullshit, which is creeping over this board like a cancer. And wow, that MJ pic really seems to trigger you. But well, when you got nothing substantial to say, you go on to rage on a pic and age. And that's the reason why I originaly choose it when I came here. To show that there are MJ fans who are also Prince fans and to piss off some insecure Prince fans. It's working. And you have no idea how ridiculous you sound calling a 44 year old kid, but whatever floats your boat. It's established you're a fool.

And lmfao on missing out on the 60s and 70s. That music is still around for anyone to hear. So once more you're showing how ridiculous you are.

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PatrickS77 said: