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Thread started 01/13/21 5:57am

JayCrawford

When would you say rock music started to go downhill?

Now this one is more interesting. The last post I made was about R&B and asking people when it went downhill most people said the late 80s and 90s which I wasn't surprised.

Now for rock music this is an interesting one. From my experience some say the grunge era (mostly from 60s-70s rock music fans), some say around the mid 00s and some say around the late 80s.

What do you guys and gals think? Because this one is a tough one for me to decide lol.
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Reply #1 posted 01/13/21 11:59am

SantanaMaitrey
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Since they forgot how to play the blues.
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Reply #2 posted 01/13/21 12:28pm

RJOrion

it was never at the top of a hill to go down
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Reply #3 posted 01/13/21 12:59pm

S2DG

I wouldn't.

My perspective is that music evolves over time. There's more music being made today than ever as it's in the hands of the creators.

Is it all great? Of course not but it's out there if you're open to hearing/finding it.


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Reply #4 posted 01/14/21 12:37pm

jn2

After the Pixies first split ( 1991) I lost interest in rock music..
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Reply #5 posted 01/15/21 1:18am

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I've always been so pissed that there's no new funk that I've never really thought about new rock. Hell, does it even exist anymore? No, I'm for real. I haven't had any exposure to anything that even resembles new rock in ages. We have a hard rock station in my area but it's classic rock. Last summer, one of the stations that I listen to that played pop/rock from the 70s and 80s changed their format to shit hop so I took it off my dial and went searching for a station to replace it. I came across the pop station that I used to listen to in the 1990s that still exists that plays current music but they play so much shit hop that you can't tell the difference between them and the R&B stations that play current music other than black kids listen to the R&B stations and white kids listen to the pop station. I tell ya, typical of The South, people segregating themselves even when all the stations are playing the same shit. As I continued scanning, I did notice that was the only pop station that plays current music that I came across. There used to be several. I also came across about two stations that I thought may have been rock but as I listened closely, it was weaker sounding and just not quite right. It was Christian Rock. If there's new rock, they must finding from all these new gadgets these days or satellite radio because I don't see any indication of it on regular radio anymore, at least in my area.

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I've heard commercials for new "rock" bands performing and when the music played in the background, I heard no resemblance to rock whatsoever. It sounded more like blues or folk to me but nothing hard or guitar driven that I would associate with rock. Every now and then, I might stumble across a band performing on a late night talk show while I'm surfing TV channels and I would consider that rock but it sounded like just a bunch of loud guitars playing with no real song structure and a bunch of growling and howling instead of singing. That's about the closest I've heard to rock and I've come across those on rare occassions. I've noticed in the last few decades that more and more of these kids are listening to country and that was unheard of in my day. If you listened to country back then, we wrote you off as trash. Even the hardest core rednecks were listening to heavy metal back then and would not touch country with a ten foot pole.

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Reply #6 posted 01/15/21 3:14am

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When it became retro and backward looking.

I love the Strokes debut album and all, but that kind of retro-stylish thing can only work briefly before you have nowhere to go.

There's still good rock music being made here and there but it feels like the artists are digging around at the scraps of history and finding something decent here and there they can polish up a bit rather than the future of music.

The best stuff is probably being made by queer musicians and women right now because it's less hackneyed and not a gang of lads trying to live out their Almost Famous retro fantasies.

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Reply #7 posted 01/15/21 2:26pm

Ferret

What a sad and depressing way to view music.

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Reply #8 posted 01/15/21 3:34pm

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I dont follow the rock genre like I did when I was younger. I dont know who is popular right now. But I have a feeling, like with other genres, the kind of rock I enjoy listening to - Springstein, The Stones, Benetar, is now considered passe. I am sitting here listening to Steely Dan as I type this and I know they are considered way outdated. 😁
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Reply #9 posted 01/15/21 7:43pm

Margot

Late 80's.

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Reply #10 posted 01/15/21 8:14pm

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Ferret said:

What a sad and depressing way to view music.



indeed. spend your energy exploring what you enjoy instead of bitching about what you don't. that shit's lazy.there's no end of great music to discover in any genre...
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Reply #11 posted 01/15/21 9:03pm

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peedub said:

Ferret said:

What a sad and depressing way to view music.

indeed. spend your energy exploring what you enjoy instead of bitching about what you don't. that shit's lazy.there's no end of great music to discover in any genre...


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Reply #12 posted 01/16/21 3:49am

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The only problem in ROCK music is classic rock radio. They are formatted to play the same ten to twenty songs forever, they totally ignore the decade of the 80's, its funny how that decade is the most covered and talked about, gave birth to the music video, but its the most ignored and skipped era. ALSO there is nothing new getting played by older artitsts this is a new thing that started about a decade or so ago, AGEISM. There are even some Rock artists who have just given up on the album and recording new ones because when they go to Rock Radio all they want is one or two of their classic songs. Some of the rock radio stations will even interview an old band with a new record, and they will play a few cuts from it because they are in the studio right now, but then never give the record any spins after. The Genre also has no place on any award shows at all, honestly I think they should start their own at this point like other genres have done. Rock is non existent at the AMA show, when I saw the term POP/ROCK and they had Justin Beiber Maroon 5 BTS as best artists I was like there is no rock in there why put the name on it. As for the Grammys its kind of the same, they dropped ROCK female totally, male is combined with female and group to Best Rock Performance, and there is never a presence of Rock on the show, unless someone invites the Foo Fighters which mainstream feels is the only Rock artists in America.


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Reply #13 posted 01/16/21 10:22am

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peedub said:

Ferret said:

What a sad and depressing way to view music.

indeed. spend your energy exploring what you enjoy instead of bitching about what you don't. that shit's lazy.there's no end of great music to discover in any genre...

I don't know a lot about how scarce good new rock is but I definitely know that good new funk is very rare. You can't spend your energy exploring what you enjoy when it's hidden too far to find. And since that's the case.....bitch on. evillol

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