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JayCrawford

Who's decline in the music world made you feel depressed the most as a fan?

I'm going with Prince. That man was the king of music throughout the 1980s. After the 80s... He was just awful. He never recovered after SOTT.

I still ask myself to this day how did he go from a classic perfect song like When Doves Cry to a song like My Name Is Prince? 😂

What about you guys and gals?
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Reply #1 posted 01/10/21 8:28am

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JayCrawford said:

I'm going with Prince. That man was the king of music throughout the 1980s. After the 80s... He was just awful. He never recovered after SOTT. I still ask myself to this day how did he go from a classic perfect song like When Doves Cry to a song like My Name Is Prince? 😂 What about you guys and gals?

Granted, My Name Is Prince is embarassing, but he did have some quality moments in the 90s too.

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Reply #2 posted 01/10/21 8:49am

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Definitely Prince. Everybody else either retired and artists like Ronald Isley and Charlie Wilson continued on but sold out completely on every single song so I dropped them immediately. You can't be disappointed with someone when you completely drop them and no longer listen to or buy their music. Prince, on the other hand, still continued making enough good music to keep me hanging on. He was the only one to continue making funk but unfortunately, he made sellout tracks too, which was very disappointing. And what I would find hilarious with him is when he would get on his rants when it didn't sell and start preaching about "real music by real musicians" and then on the very next album you would hear a sellout track like "Laydown", "Valentina", or "Ole Skool Company" which would be exactly the type of stuff that he had preached against. That made him sound about as believable as Donald Trump. lol

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Reply #3 posted 01/10/21 8:58am

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MattyJam said:



JayCrawford said:


I'm going with Prince. That man was the king of music throughout the 1980s. After the 80s... He was just awful. He never recovered after SOTT. I still ask myself to this day how did he go from a classic perfect song like When Doves Cry to a song like My Name Is Prince? 😂 What about you guys and gals?


Granted, My Name Is Prince is embarassing, but he did have some quality moments in the 90s too.




I'll be honest. The only highlights of his 90s era was D&P. He was pretty huge again and it was his last high profile moment up to that point until Musicology was out.
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Reply #4 posted 01/10/21 1:09pm

alphastreet

When mjs reputation took a hit and he was going through different things in the 00s, I felt so sorry for him and missed getting new music from him
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Reply #5 posted 01/10/21 8:10pm

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I guess Whitney - she basically purposely destroyed her voice. By the end of her life she could barely speak let alone sing. As someone who had a voice that was so incredible it was definitely depressing.

You might not have liked P's songs but he never dropped his vocal or playing ability.
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Reply #6 posted 01/10/21 10:45pm

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Sly Stone.
Without his affair with drugs, he would have ruled the 80's.
I do think his albums until 1975 were great, but he would have been on the verge of catching the good sound to define the next decade.
( Not mentioning that his music was hugely sampled in the 86/93 era in the hip hop. )
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I can't imagine what Sly could have done with 80's linn drum for instance.
MJ and Prince, who were his spiritual children, could have done something for him or with him musically, instead of sh it-ing in his face.
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Reply #7 posted 01/11/21 3:35am

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Yeah, Sly Stone. I agree with what the others are saying about Prince, but he still made good songs and his live shows were great. So I can't say that I felt depressed about that, maybe a bit confused or disappointed sometimes. With Sly, yes it really does make you sad to see how deep he has fallen. His comeback tour in 2007 only underlined that.
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O tempora! O mores!
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Reply #8 posted 01/11/21 3:37am

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JayCrawford said:

I'm going with Prince. That man was the king of music throughout the 1980s. After the 80s... He was just awful. He never recovered after SOTT.

I still ask myself to this day how did he go from a classic perfect song like When Doves Cry to a song like My Name Is Prince? 😂

What about you guys and gals?

Hip hop. That's how. (Or shit hop as Andy calls it, I like that one. cool )
O tempora! O mores!
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Reply #9 posted 01/11/21 4:35am

wilmer

Michael Jackson, whose decline for me started once he started lipsynching 99% of his shows from the early 90's onwards. It was depressing. I felt it was a rip-off.
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Reply #10 posted 01/11/21 4:40am

JayCrawford

wilmer said:

Michael Jackson, whose decline for me started once he started lipsynching 99% of his shows from the early 90's onwards. It was depressing. I felt it was a rip-off.


Yeah, I hated that whole lip syncing shit he did throughout the 90s. Despite his success with albums and singles in the 90s. That decade was a dark time for Michael Jackson
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Reply #11 posted 01/11/21 5:42am

MattyJam

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The Dangerous tour was at least half live. He performed 16 songs on the setlist, 8 of which were 100% live:

Startin Somethin

Human Nature

She's Out My Life

I Just Can't Stop Loving You

J5 Medley

Billie Jean

Beat It

Working Day & Night

Half of MITM was also live


It wasn't until the HIStory tour where the lip-synching was on most of the songs.

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Reply #12 posted 01/11/21 7:38am

Cinny

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Beastie Boys. To The 5 Boroughs (2004) was admittedly made in a depressing post-9/11 era from a group of New York natives. Though they had pioneered a sparse (short samples) thumping (808) style in the 1980s, the percussion on that album just sounds dull. I might be able to pull up some org posts where I am defending it but I was just fooling myself. After that album, I didn't follow them at ALL!

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Reply #13 posted 01/11/21 8:46am

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JayCrawford said:

I'm going with Prince. That man was the king of music throughout the 1980s. After the 80s... He was just awful. He never recovered after SOTT. I still ask myself to this day how did he go from a classic perfect song like When Doves Cry to a song like My Name Is Prince? 😂 What about you guys and gals?

Well he's not a machine. 7 albums of fantastic music isnt enough for you?

What did you do in your lifetime?

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Reply #14 posted 01/11/21 8:57am

JayCrawford

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JayCrawford said:


I'm going with Prince. That man was the king of music throughout the 1980s. After the 80s... He was just awful. He never recovered after SOTT. I still ask myself to this day how did he go from a classic perfect song like When Doves Cry to a song like My Name Is Prince? 😂 What about you guys and gals?

Well he's not a machine. 7 albums of fantastic music isnt enough for you?


What did you do in your lifetime?



For you to make that statement. I have to ask, were you even alive to understand why us first generation Prince fans love his 80s era the most and understand why we were frustrated with his 90s work?
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Reply #15 posted 01/11/21 8:58am

nextedition

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JayCrawford said:

nextedition said:

Well he's not a machine. 7 albums of fantastic music isnt enough for you?

What did you do in your lifetime?

For you to make that statement. I have to ask, were you even alive to understand why us first generation Prince fans love his 80s era the most and understand why we were frustrated with his 90s work?

Yes i was. lol

so tell me again, what did you do in that lifetime?

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Reply #16 posted 01/11/21 9:09am

JayCrawford

nextedition said:



JayCrawford said:


nextedition said:


Well he's not a machine. 7 albums of fantastic music isnt enough for you?


What did you do in your lifetime?



For you to make that statement. I have to ask, were you even alive to understand why us first generation Prince fans love his 80s era the most and understand why we were frustrated with his 90s work?

Yes i was. lol


so tell me again, what did you do in that lifetime?




Doubt it, that statement you posted made me lose a few braincells.

Just out of curiosity. Why are you having a piss fit about this? I stated how I felt about the latter part of his career. Move on.
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Reply #17 posted 01/11/21 9:21am

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JayCrawford said:

nextedition said:

Yes i was. lol

so tell me again, what did you do in that lifetime?

Doubt it, that statement you posted made me lose a few braincells. Just out of curiosity. Why are you having a piss fit about this? I stated how I felt about the latter part of his career. Move on.

Not sure why you duobt it, i know my own age.

It's interesting why you don't answer my question.

You complain about getting depressed about Prince not releasing better albums after he out out 7 fantastic albums. You even make fun about "My name is Prince".

So again, what do you do in your lifetime?

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Reply #18 posted 01/11/21 9:40am

JayCrawford

nextedition said:



JayCrawford said:


nextedition said:


Yes i was. lol


so tell me again, what did you do in that lifetime?



Doubt it, that statement you posted made me lose a few braincells. Just out of curiosity. Why are you having a piss fit about this? I stated how I felt about the latter part of his career. Move on.

Not sure why you duobt it, i know my own age.


It's interesting why you don't answer my question.


You complain about getting depressed about Prince not releasing better albums after he out out 7 fantastic albums. You even make fun about "My name is Prince".


So again, what do you do in your lifetime?




What does my life have anything to do with topic? Are you that upset over my opinion?

Fucking get over it and move on. Jesus
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Reply #19 posted 01/11/21 10:06am

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Jay, a dumb comment. Prince was pretty great in the 90s.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #20 posted 01/11/21 10:09am

2freaky4church
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Stevie Wonder, Little Richard.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #21 posted 01/11/21 10:10am

JayCrawford

2freaky4church1 said:

Jay, a dumb comment. Prince was pretty great in the 90s.



Alright... Keep convincing yourself 🤣
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Reply #22 posted 01/11/21 10:20am

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If you are speaking of a musical decline (sales, voice, quality of music), I can't really think of anyone. Every artist has or will decline at some point. I don't expect anyone to stay at the top of the game forever.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates
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Reply #23 posted 01/11/21 5:33pm

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kitbradley said:

If you are speaking of a musical decline (sales, voice, quality of music), I can't really think of anyone. Every artist has or will decline at some point. I don't expect anyone to stay at the top of the game forever.

Yup.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #24 posted 01/11/21 10:03pm

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I'll go with Natalie Cole. Those dark years from 1981 - 1985 were pretty disappointing 4 me. I kept wishing and praying she'd hit the top of the charts (again), but it didn't happen really till "Jump Start." I wish she had her shit 2gether at Epic cuz they dumped her after only one album. It was rumored that she was gonna be paired up with Teena Marie (producing), but it never happened because of her downward spiral with drugs/rehab attempts. sad

Hungry? Just look in the mirror and get fed up.
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Reply #25 posted 01/11/21 10:05pm

alphastreet

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I'll go with Natalie Cole. Those dark years from 1981 - 1985 were pretty disappointing 4 me. I kept wishing and praying she'd hit the top of the charts (again), but it didn't happen really till "Jump Start." I wish she had her shit 2gether at Epic cuz they dumped her after only one album. It was rumored that she was gonna be paired up with Teena Marie (producing), but it never happened because of her downward spiral with drugs/rehab attempts. sad



How did you feel when she made a comeback in the 90s?
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Reply #26 posted 01/12/21 1:02am

JayCrawford

alphastreet said:

When mjs reputation took a hit and he was going through different things in the 00s, I felt so sorry for him and missed getting new music from him


You can easily date back to the early 90s when that whole allegation period happened. He wasn't the same after that. The 90s and 00s were dark eras for Michael Jackson despite having great success in the 90s too. It was a sad thing to watch
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Reply #27 posted 01/12/21 7:53am

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kitbradley said:

If you are speaking of a musical decline (sales, voice, quality of music), I can't really think of anyone. Every artist has or will decline at some point. I don't expect anyone to stay at the top of the game forever.

100%

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Reply #28 posted 01/12/21 8:22am

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Boys 2 Men.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #29 posted 01/12/21 6:31pm

jfenster

Even the better artists have at best 5 years of quality albums
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