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Ok fair enough. [Edited 1/7/21 8:56am] | |
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I understood what you meant. You are the one who said it's not an album, but several people in this thread has it on their list so it's an album to them and me. I also think all albums are "real albums", just like I think all music is "real music". Anyway even if you think a compilation is not a "real album", it's not a hits compilation in the US, it's an album of all new songs except for Wham! Rap 86. That was a then new remix, so it wasn't previously released either. You say it has a live song on it. Isn't half of the Purple Rain album live songs? So I guess that's not a "real album" either. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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I'm actually surprised people in this thread like some of George's 90s work. Personally I think he was garbage after Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 (his last good album). 80s - 1990 were his golden years. | |
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Yeah yeah yeah. Every single record released after 1989 is no good. I heard you the first 50 times you've said it. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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Yeah yeah yeah. Every single record released after 1989 is no good. I heard you the first 50 times you've said it. Just stating my opinion. I mean please remind me wasn't George Michael having issues with his record label throughout the 90s🤔? I'll wait for that answer. | |
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I said nothing about that. Lots of acts had record label problems such as Mötley Crüe, Metallica, & Terence Trent D'Arby, Tori Amos, & En Vogue or problems with their managers like Billy Joel & Sting. That has nothing to do with if their records are good or not. You act like if you don't like something, nobody else is supposed to either. Well guess what I like New Jacks Swing. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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I said nothing about that. Lots of acts had record label problems such as Mötley Crüe, Metallica, & Terence Trent D'Arby, Tori Amos, & En Vogue or problems with their managers like Billy Joel & Sting. That has nothing to do with if their records are good or not. You act like if you don't like something, nobody else is supposed to either. Well guess what I like New Jacks Swing. I never said you did and yes it actually does. It affects the quality of their work. Prince is a good example of this. His best shit were the 80s... Look what happened to his career after the 80s? He never recovered since and you're mentioning these talentless 1 hit wonder groups and singers like Terence D'Arby and En Vogue 😂. I'm not acting like anything, I'm just surprised people actually like George Michael's work throughout the 90s. Try and understand that. Could care less if you like New Jack Swing. [Edited 1/7/21 10:59am] | |
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"I don't like it so I don't know why other people do. If I don't like it, they have no talent" You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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MickyDolenz said:
"I don't like it so I don't know why other people do. If I don't like it, they have no talent" Oh well... Thanks for the assumptions. Moving on. | |
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There's nothing to assume. You clearly wrote this:
Just about every thread you post in you say the golden age of music is 1950s-1980s and the music afterwards was garbage. You say Prince's 1990s music is no good and the same for Michael Jackson's later music. You went into a thread about Dru Hill, Boyz II Men, & Jodeci just to say they had no talent, all they do is moan, & couldn't believe people liked them. Yet you contradict yourself since New Jack Swing began in the 1980s and you also put down Madonna, Whitney Houston, & Janet Jackson who were popular in the 1980s. What's to assume when you constantly repeat the same thing over & over? "I'm surprised/can't believe people like this bad music that is not a part of my made up "golden age" decades." You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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Was it "Lies," which was #1? Was it "You Don't Have To Worry," which was #1? Was it "Don't Go," which was #3? Was it "My Lovin'," which was #1? Was it "Giving Him Something He Can Feel," which was #1? Was it "Free Your Mind," which was #8? Was it "Whatta Man," which was #3? Was it "Don't Let Go," which was #1?
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There's nothing to assume. You clearly wrote this:
Just about every thread you post in you say the golden age of music is 1950s-1980s and the music afterwards was garbage. You say Prince's 1990s music is no good and the same for Michael Jackson's later music. You went into a thread about Dru Hill, Boyz II Men, & Jodeci just to say they had no talent, all they do is moan, & couldn't believe people liked them. Yet you contradict yourself since New Jack Swing began in the 1980s and you also put down Madonna, Whitney Houston, & Janet Jackson who were popular in the 1980s. What's to assume when you constantly repeat the same thing over & over? "I'm surprised/can't believe people like this bad music that is not a part of my made up "golden age" decades." Huh? I never contradicted myself regarding that statement because if you actually remember, when I started the previous thread which was about the downfall of R&B. I specifically said around the late 80s since that was when the New Jack Swing was kicking in. Remember when I said that? Probably not go back to that previous thread. Yeah so what if I said that about those garbage R&B boy groups of the 90s what's your point? Oh by the way. That thread you're referring to is actually about me asking everyone when R&B went downhill. Most agreed with my statement and said around the late 80s when New Jack Swing was at its peak. Yep I also said Prince wasn't good after the 80s because objectively is a fact. Nothing Prince did in the 90s or even the 00s can top his 80s heyday from 1980-1987. Is it really a made up golden age when you've had the likes of big names like Prince who once said the 60s, 70s and 80s were the golden age too? Janet Jackson's biggest success came from the 90s, Whitney Houston I never cared for and Madonna never had talent. You clearly made an assumption by saying this. "I don't like it so I don't know why other people do. If I don't like it, they have no talent" I didn't say anything about not liking them lol. You're getting too emotional now. | |
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TrivialPursuit said:
Was it "Lies," which was #1? Was it "You Don't Have To Worry," which was #1? Was it "Don't Go," which was #3? Was it "My Lovin'," which was #1? Was it "Giving Him Something He Can Feel," which was #1? Was it "Free Your Mind," which was #8? Was it "Whatta Man," which was #3? Was it "Don't Let Go," which was #1?
So anyone who prefers his 80s over his 90s work have no sense of music? Oh ok, by your logic, we can say the same about original Prince fans (80s fans) since most of them do not like his 90s work. | |
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Jaycrawford, how did Madonna become so successful if she has no talent? Just wondering. | |
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No it was not, it was a thread specifically about Dru Hill. I even said that Dru Hill was Jodeci mixed with Dennis Rodman. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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hollywood0024 said: Jaycrawford, how did Madonna become so successful if she has no talent? Just wondering. Causing controversy. That's how. No talent she had. | |
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JayCrawford said: hollywood0024 said: Jaycrawford, how did Madonna become so successful if she has no talent? Just wondering. Causing controversy. That's how. No talent she had. What do you think of her looks? | |
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TrivialPursuit said:
"For anyone to say George Michael's 90's material is less that amazing truly has no sense of music, at all." You pretty much did but is okay. | |
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I said I don't really consider it a real album, I have no problem with others considering it a real album; both of these things can exist at the same time. | |
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jaawwnn said:
I said I don't really consider it a real album, I have no problem with others considering it a real album; both of these things can exist at the same time. I like both albums but I wonder why The Final was not released in the USA... | |
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Probably because the singles from Fantastic weren't big hits in the USA. I didn't hear Wham! Rap on the radio until it was on the Perfect soundtrack in 1985 You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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MickyDolenz said:
Probably because the singles from Fantastic weren't big hits in the USA. I didn't hear Wham! Rap on the radio until it was on the Perfect soundtrack in 1985 Good points. You're probably right. | |
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Anyone on here read Andrew Ridgeley's book? | |
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The Final was explicitly a greatest hits set, MFTEOH seems to be an attempt to force the newer tracks into a "new album" format, which is an interesting idea. I suppose Wham! was still only breaking in the USA and George was already done with them.
Not yet, I'll get round to it. I'd recommend the Simon Napier-Bell book I'm Coming to Take You to Lunch for a very irreverant take on their career and a really good insight into how conflicted George was about the whole thing. [Edited 1/11/21 3:52am] | |
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Cinny said:
80s Stevie Wonder was a joke! Let's not talking about his 80s era please | |
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