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Thread started 12/31/20 3:50am

JayCrawford

How would Marvin Gaye's career had been if he didn't die in 84?

Now as we all know throughout the 1960s - 1970s Marvin Gaye was dominating the world of music with successful singles and albums. Especially the 70s his peak but he had his own demons unfortunately.

Throughout the early 80s he was somewhat in his "comeback" phase. Sexual healing was a successful single, Midnight Love album was a success, he was nominated for a few Grammy's for that album, he performed at the National Anthem, performed at Motown 25, throughout the early 80s he was doing well.

Now my question is this. How do you think his career would have turned out if he didn't die in 84?
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Reply #1 posted 12/31/20 6:09am

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JayCrawford said:

Now as we all know throughout the 1960s - 1970s Marvin Gaye was dominating the world of music with successful singles and albums. Especially the 70s his peak but he had his own demons unfortunately. Throughout the early 80s he was somewhat in his "comeback" phase. Sexual healing was a successful single, Midnight Love album was a success, he was nominated for a few Grammy's for that album, he performed at the National Anthem, performed at Motown 25, throughout the early 80s he was doing well. Now my question is this. How do you think his career would have turned out if he didn't die in 84?

Well, it's hard to say since his demons (depression, drugs) were back in his life even though he had the comeback. If he could keep it together he would have released two more albums similar to "Midnight Love" as per his contract. I also think it's likely he would have done a duets album and another album of Sinatra-like stuff. I don't think he would have needed another comeback and would settle into an album every three years mode. Surely, he would have created more classics sad

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Reply #2 posted 12/31/20 7:50am

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with all due respect, Marvin Gaye had already fell off years prior to his death, due to his severe substance abuse problems and relationship issues with everyone around him.
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Reply #3 posted 12/31/20 8:46am

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Its hard to say with anyone that was taken would they would have done. Like its been said MARVIN had a lot of other things going on when he was killed. So would he have hit bottom and cleaned up and done something like Lionel Richie was doing, would him and Diana have done some more duets? Would him and MJ done something, but also its interesting when we take their death out of the equations how a lot of the future does not happen.


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Reply #4 posted 12/31/20 8:56am

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I think he died at his peak. "Sexual Healing" sounded so modern and became a template for soul music, IMO.

I also think he could have recorded some persuasively political music throughout the eighties.

He could have squeezed out some dance hits. Most of those Motown artists still sounded great in the 1990s but were less active.

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Reply #5 posted 12/31/20 10:53am

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Could have been interesting. Depends on who he collaborated with.

At the time of Marvin's death I didn't really pay him much attention. I wasn't a big fan. It wasn't until I was an adult on a six month deployment back in 1990-1991 when I heard "Distant Lover" I became a fan.

I could imagine Marvin doing certain songs produced by certain artist some of the songs on R.Kelly's Chocolate Factory sound heavily influenced by Marvin. A few tracks on Maxwell's first album or some of El Debarge songs who is a big Marvin fan.

I'm not a big rap fan but there are some songs I like. Erik Sermon's Just Like Music samples Marvin's vocals and Method Man's Break Up to Make Up which seems to show D'angelo doing Marvin's vocal stylings.
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Reply #6 posted 12/31/20 12:43pm

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RJOrion said:

with all due respect, Marvin Gaye had already fell off years prior to his death, due to his severe substance abuse problems and relationship issues with everyone around him.
[Edited 12/31/20 7:51am]



Is fine... I get what you are saying. But I felt he was on fire during the early 80s before his dad shot him
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Reply #7 posted 12/31/20 1:37pm

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I think his career would have faded out with time, just like everyone else who ages with the years.

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Reply #8 posted 12/31/20 2:19pm

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I believe he would've continued on through the 80s as a big R&B/Soul artist. He really wouldn't have had that much competition. He was already a Legend. There would've been Luther...and Luther again!
And if he lived and continued on through the 90s, I know some won't want to hear this, but yeah...sooner or later Mr. R probably would've worked with him. Yeah, yeah...I know...
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Reply #9 posted 12/31/20 3:47pm

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We don't know. He died.

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Reply #10 posted 12/31/20 4:09pm

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Great artist, he may have done well in the 90s too
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Reply #11 posted 12/31/20 5:47pm

JayCrawford

TrivialPursuit said:

We don't know. He died.



Discussion happen for a reason and it is a "what if" question.

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Reply #12 posted 12/31/20 6:05pm

JayCrawford

alphastreet said:

Great artist, he may have done well in the 90s too


Who knows. Midnight Love was a success.
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/20 6:20pm

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JayCrawford said:

alphastreet said:

Great artist, he may have done well in the 90s too


Who knows. Midnight Love was a success.


Yes it’s a great album
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Reply #14 posted 12/31/20 6:31pm

JayCrawford

alphastreet said:

JayCrawford said:



Who knows. Midnight Love was a success.


Yes it’s a great album


I agree.
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/20 6:57pm

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Uh, he had a HUGE hit with Sexual Healing right before he died... If he had been able to stay off drugs, no doubt he would have continued with his career renaissance as Tina Turner did.

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Reply #16 posted 01/01/21 11:12pm

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Just think of where music was headed for anyone his age. He would not have fit in with New Jack Swing by 1988. Thats it
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Reply #17 posted 01/02/21 5:03am

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He would have been produced by Prince.
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Reply #18 posted 01/02/21 5:17am

JayCrawford

paisleypark4 said:

Just think of where music was headed for anyone his age. He would not have fit in with New Jack Swing by 1988. Thats it


Oh man, can you imagine the New Jack swing Marvin Gaye era? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Reply #19 posted 01/02/21 11:21am

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JayCrawford said:

paisleypark4 said:

Just think of where music was headed for anyone his age. He would not have fit in with New Jack Swing by 1988. Thats it


Oh man, can you imagine the New Jack swing Marvin Gaye era? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
oh god no. Even James Brown and George Clinton did it. did it
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Reply #20 posted 01/02/21 11:57am

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RODSERLING said:

He would have been produced by Prince.

I don't think so, didn't Prince treat his daughter kind of crappy?

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Reply #21 posted 01/02/21 1:00pm

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He would have been produced by Prince.

nah, maybe Rick James since they shared Jan Gaye's coochie .... Prince wouldnt have gone for all that weed smokin and crack smokin at Paisley Park...but Rick wouldve had no problems with that...at all...plus Rick LOVED them detroit Motown cats...ask the Temptations

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Reply #22 posted 01/02/21 3:38pm

JayCrawford

paisleypark4 said:

JayCrawford said:



Oh man, can you imagine the New Jack swing Marvin Gaye era? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
oh god no. Even James Brown and George Clinton did it. did it


James Brown did it?!?! πŸ˜‚

I have to hear it. What's the name of the record?
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Reply #23 posted 01/03/21 5:06pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Uh, he had a HUGE hit with Sexual Healing right before he died...

Sanctified Lady was a R&B hit. I still hear it occasionally on the local soul oldies station

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Reply #24 posted 01/03/21 5:13pm

JayCrawford

MickyDolenz said:



purplethunder3121 said:


Uh, he had a HUGE hit with Sexual Healing right before he died...



Sanctified Lady was a R&B hit. I still hear it occasionally on the local soul oldies station




Is a damn shame his bastard dad shot him... I'll never forget that day ;(
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Reply #25 posted 01/06/21 9:06am

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Gladys and Stevie still scored hits... I don't think it is such a stretch to say Marvin would have thrived. I love his later stuff.

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Reply #26 posted 01/06/21 12:49pm

JayCrawford

Cinny said:

Gladys and Stevie still scored hits... I don't think it is such a stretch to say Marvin would have thrived. I love his later stuff.




True but Stevie's best work are mostly from the 70s though
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Reply #27 posted 01/11/21 7:41am

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JayCrawford said:

Cinny said:

Gladys and Stevie still scored hits... I don't think it is such a stretch to say Marvin would have thrived. I love his later stuff.

True but Stevie's best work are mostly from the 70s though

That's more if you prefer 70s R&B to 80s R&B. I think Marvin showed with "Sexual Healing" that he had not only adapted but made the blueprint for the 80s R&B sound. He could have worked that all kinds of ways.

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Reply #28 posted 01/12/21 2:45pm

mrwiggles

Man oh man there is just no telling. What a life. What a tortured soul. He hit some astounding highs and lows. I can't help thinking about his Sexual Healing Tour, when he had a hotel suite, with the dope man on one side and the preacher on the other. It's reported he would do a hit of the blow, then go back and forth seeking redemption, salvation.

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Reply #29 posted 01/13/21 3:05pm

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Someone would've had to drag him out of his parents' house and forced him to clean up. The amount of drugs he was doing would've done him in eventually. That said, I think he could've put out a lot more great stuff in the Midnight Love vibe. "Sanctified Pussy" would've been a great followup/lead in to his next album. Divided Soul, much like the book of the same name, would've been a great possible album title as well. Maybe, just maybe The Ballads would have come out in the 1980s as well. Such possibilities...

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