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Thread started 10/29/20 4:51pm

alphastreet

Will good music videos come back this decade?

I know most of us feel music channels aren’t what they used to be, but do you think there is a possibility of a creative era around the corner since most are on break right now due to covid, and a possibility exists?
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Reply #1 posted 10/29/20 7:43pm

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nah
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Reply #2 posted 10/29/20 7:54pm

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What's your definition of good? I just watched Sampa the Great's new one. I liked it but it wasn't a high production one, could be I just really like her.
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Reply #3 posted 10/29/20 8:05pm

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onlyforaminute said:

What's your definition of good? I just watched Sampa the Great's new one. I liked it but it wasn't a high production one, could be I just really like her.
[Edited 10/29/20 19:56pm]


I was thinking of the hype videos got in the 80s and 90s upon their releases
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Reply #4 posted 10/30/20 2:40pm

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alphastreet said:

onlyforaminute said:

What's your definition of good? I just watched Sampa the Great's new one. I liked it but it wasn't a high production one, could be I just really like her.
[Edited 10/29/20 19:56pm]


I was thinking of the hype videos got in the 80s and 90s upon their releases
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Reply #5 posted 10/30/20 2:57pm

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The only music videos I remember getting excited about were Michael Jackson's.

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Reply #6 posted 10/30/20 3:08pm

alphastreet

tump said:

The only music videos I remember getting excited about were Michael Jackson's.



I also remember some of those days
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Reply #7 posted 10/30/20 3:12pm

onlyforaminute

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alphastreet said:

onlyforaminute said:

What's your definition of good? I just watched Sampa the Great's new one. I liked it but it wasn't a high production one, could be I just really like her.
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I was thinking of the hype videos got in the 80s and 90s upon their releases

Are people putting that much money towards videos these days with all the SM outlets? Im thinking about Childish Gambinos vid this is america a few years back that was all the hype but it wasn't major production. Then there was WAP major hype, which had a bit of cgi so money was spent.
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Reply #8 posted 10/30/20 3:22pm

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onlyforaminute said:

alphastreet said:



I was thinking of the hype videos got in the 80s and 90s upon their releases

Are people putting that much money towards videos these days with all the SM outlets? Im thinking about Childish Gambinos vid this is america a few years back that was all the hype but it wasn't major production. Then there was WAP major hype, which had a bit of cgi so money was spent.
If we're talking peak-MTV levels of hype and popularity then "WAP" was probably much closer to that than TIA.

However, "WAP" doesn't need the video to work as a song while TIA does.
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Reply #9 posted 10/30/20 3:45pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

onlyforaminute said:


Are people putting that much money towards videos these days with all the SM outlets? Im thinking about Childish Gambinos vid this is america a few years back that was all the hype but it wasn't major production. Then there was WAP major hype, which had a bit of cgi so money was spent.
If we're talking peak-MTV levels of hype and popularity then "WAP" was probably much closer to that than TIA.

However, "WAP" doesn't need the video to work as a song while TIA does.

True. I see a lot of videos still being made they just aren't big hyped vids. Usually more independent artist. Some with some good storylines some just nice to look at but again there's no commercial hype about them. India Arie put out a new vid a few months back during this covid.
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Reply #10 posted 10/30/20 3:48pm

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alphastreet said:

I was thinking of the hype videos got in the 80s and 90s upon their releases

What about BTS? They're everywhere and was even on one of the Old Town Road remixes. Jimmy Fallon had 2 separate entire weeks that they appeared on every episode for those weeks. Old Town Road was a big thing in itself and Lil Nas X & Billy Ray Cyrus now has the record for being the longest lasting # on the Hot 100.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #11 posted 10/30/20 4:06pm

alphastreet

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alphastreet said:


I was thinking of the hype videos got in the 80s and 90s upon their releases

What about BTS? They're everywhere and was even on one of the Old Town Road remixes. Jimmy Fallon had 2 separate entire weeks that they appeared on every episode for those weeks. Old Town Road was a big thing in itself and Lil Nas X & Billy Ray Cyrus now has the record for being the longest lasting # on the Hot 100.



Yeah I guess bts is popular though I don’t know any songs. Even k pop group blackpink is popular and gets a lot of views
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Reply #12 posted 10/30/20 4:58pm

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Isn't not enough "biz" income generated to blow capital on high-concept videos anymore? This is why all videos look like they cost about 20 bucks to make now....

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Reply #13 posted 10/30/20 5:04pm

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Well who you looking for I see recent stuff featuring HER. I see somethi g very recent from The Weeknd. Heck VEVO got quite few new vids up from all kinds of artist.
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Reply #14 posted 10/30/20 5:12pm

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BustaRhymes new official vid posted 20 hrs ago half mill views
ArianaG new vid post 1 week ago over a mill views
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Reply #15 posted 11/24/20 4:44pm

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alphastreet said:

Yeah I guess bts is popular though I don’t know any songs. Even k pop group blackpink is popular and gets a lot of views

DJ Khaled & Bad Bunny videos are really popular too.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #16 posted 11/25/20 7:06pm

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If by good videos you mean those big-event music videos that MJ and Will Smith used to do, I don't think so. Nobody's going there. I'm playing back Smooth Criminal in my mind.
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Reply #17 posted 11/25/20 7:20pm

alphastreet

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If by good videos you mean those big-event music videos that MJ and Will Smith used to do, I don't think so. Nobody's going there. I'm playing back Smooth Criminal in my mind.


Yeah I was thinking like that like old school times
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Reply #18 posted 11/25/20 10:13pm

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Then no. You got black is king at ridiculous 10s of millions of dollars and it seemed to have evaporated within months until someone mentioned p___y then that became the most talked about thing in the world. People aren't interested in the effort of creativity, it's all shock and awe now. IMO it's getting too difficult to find that balance until there's no point in investing that much energy to just be devoured and basically shat out within a matter of minutes in the scheme of things.
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Reply #19 posted 11/26/20 9:31am

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'SILLY & STUPID REALITY TELEVISION Show's is what makes it VERY DIFFICULT & HARD for Music Videos to Come Back on Cable TV Networks/Channels! Only that is JUST ONE Part Of The Problem.

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'SILLY & STUPID REALITY TELEVISION Show's is what makes it VERY DIFFICULT & HARD for Music Videos to Come Back on Cable TV Networks/Channels! ONLY AT LEAST that is JUST ONE Part Of The Problem.

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^^Reality TV is on because lots of people watch it, so is popular. If it wasn't the shows wouldn't be on. People can watch music videos on Youtube and they can choose the songs and/or artists they want. Watch them instantly too and not have to wait like Video Jukebox. MTV is like the radio where someone else is choosing what to broadcast. Also with Youtube, the audience can watch uncensored videos. MTV bleeped out profanity and blurred out logos or things they considered advertising. If you want to watch Justify My Love, you don't have to wait for the middle of the night like MTV would show it.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #22 posted 11/26/20 3:06pm

alphastreet

Plus we have mtv and the oj Simpson trial to thank for reality tv becoming the norm
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Reply #23 posted 11/26/20 3:30pm

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alphastreet said:

Plus we have mtv and the oj Simpson trial to thank for reality tv becoming the norm

Technically, I think it started with daytime talk shows like Donahue, Oprah, Jerry Springer, Geraldo, Sally Jessy Raphaël, Charles Perez, Christina, Ricki Lake, Jenny Jones, etc. It was Geraldo who had a big brawl on his show and got his nose broken and also had the Al Capone vault opening. Maury has been on since the early 1990s with his "Are you the father?" show. lol

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #24 posted 11/26/20 6:33pm

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Plus we have mtv and the oj Simpson trial to thank for reality tv becoming the norm

You meant the 'MTV's THE REAL WORLD(1992-2017) & ROAD RULES(1995-2007)'?

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Reply #25 posted 11/26/20 6:59pm

alphastreet

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alphastreet said:


Plus we have mtv and the oj Simpson trial to thank for reality tv becoming the norm


You meant the 'MTV's THE REAL WORLD(1992-2017) & ROAD RULES(1995-2007)'?

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Yeah I meant real world
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Reply #26 posted 11/29/20 9:53am

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Here's some music videos released since 2010 that I like:

DJ Snake & Lil Jon ~ Turn Down For What
Khruangbin ~ So We Won't Forget
Artists Of Then, Now, & Forever ~ Forever Country
Weird Al ~ Tacky
Vintage Trouble ~ Pelvis Pusher
Red Hot Chili Peppers ~ Go Robot
Red Hot Chili Peppers ~ Dark Necessities
The Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band ~ We Deserve A Happy Ending
Snoop Dogg, Stevie Wonder, Pharrell Williams ~ California Roll
Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer ~ Three Piece Suit And Sneakers

Sampa The Great feat. Nicole Gumbe ~ Black Girl Magik
Tami Neilson ~ Dynamite
Tami Neilson ~ Any Fool With A Heart
Childish Gambino ~ Feels Like Summer
Childish Gambino ~ This Is America
Migos feat. Drake ~ Walk It Talk It
Drake ~ Nice For What
Big Boi, Killer Mike, Jeezy, Rock D The Legend ~ Kill Jill
Duran Duran, Janelle Monáe, Nile Rodgers ~ Pressure Off
Janelle Monáe ~ Tightrope

Sheena Ringo & Hikaru Utada ~ The Sun & Moon
Soil & "PIMP" Sessions feat. Sheena Ringo ~ The Assassin's Assassin
Lady Gaga & Beyoncé ~ Telephone
Beyoncé ~ Run The World
BTS ~ On
New Edition ~ This One's For Me And You
Black Eyed Peas feat. Slick Rick ~ Constant
Black Eyed Peas ~ Ring The Alarm
Black Eyed Peas ~ Street Livin'
Black Eyed Peas ~ Get It

Sade ~ Babyfather
La Santa Cecilia ~ Ice El Hielo
Will Smith ~ Friend Like Me
Mark Ronson & Mystikal ~ Feel Right
Psy ~ Gangnam Style
Psy & Snoop Dogg ~ Hangover
N.E.R.D & Rihanna ~ Lemon
Bruno Mars & Cardi B ~ Finesse
Bruno Mars ~ Whatta Man
Iggy Azalea feat. Jennifer Hudson ~ Trouble

Wayne Brady, Mike Tyson, Bobby Brown ~ Every Little Step
Eminem ~ Rap God
Gloria Estefan ~ Hotel Nacional
Missy Elliott ~ Throw It Back
Janelle Monáe feat. Erykah Badu ~ Q.U.E.E.N.
Lizzo ~ Juice
Sting & Shaggy ~ Gotta Get Back My Baby

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #27 posted 11/29/20 10:23am

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Like the saying goes "everything old is new again" so who knows, they just may make a comeback, since people seem to be running out of ideas of new things to create, and just seem to go over what's been done before anyway.

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Reply #28 posted 11/29/20 11:16am

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Its a different time, MUSIC VIDEOS are still being made and many are "good" whatever that means. BUT we have to realize that they are not what they were because the art form is not new anymore, back when MTV came around it was the "birth" of that world, and we pretty much all had to go to this place for videos THEY were playing, and early on they played alot of different ones, and yes we also had Friday Night Videos, New York Hot Tracks, Video Music Box, also U68 for those who remember that awkward start up little find in 1986. But now you are not being shown videos, YOU are organizing your lists, artists have thier channels and tell U what they like and then you are fed things the YOUTUBE brain things you might also like, so you now have a much different world. You can tell me about videos you like and I bet that your top 10 and my top10 and someone elses top 10 have almsot nothing in common, now thats not bad but its the reality of this streaming and media world we are now when in reality we THINK we are forming our own tastes, not so. Take the music world now, its all about streaming for new artists you can literally have an artists with 10 million streams THINK they have a huge fan base and compare that to say an album back in the day SELLING a million its very different. Now you have artists with a million or so streams that no one even knows, or heard the song, if a song in 1985 sold a million copies i can pretty much guarantee most people heard it, because sales usually almost always went with airplay and videos and it worked hand in hand, its not that way now. There is a very humoros MEME going around about MTV's 39th anniversary saying Happy 39th thank you for 14 years of videos, pretty much sums it up and what was to come and what we have now. If you ask someone compile a list of your 100 favorite music videos since 2010 till now I am SURE that you will hard pressed to find the videos but also lists that share favorites, also I can bet you will have most say I NEVER SAW THAT ONE a hell of a lot more now than then . Now ask someone for their favorite 100 videos from 1980-1990 I can bet alot of similarites.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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lastdecember said:

If you ask someone compile a list of your 100 favorite music videos since 2010 till now I am SURE that you will hard pressed to find the videos but also lists that share favorites, also I can bet you will have most say I NEVER SAW THAT ONE a hell of a lot more now than then . Now ask someone for their favorite 100 videos from 1980-1990 I can bet alot of similarites.

But there were huge videos like What Did The Fox Say & Gangnam Style

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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