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How Do You Approach Collecting Vinyl if you do? so, recently got myself a turntable. its not super fancy, actually one of those joints that does 8 different things, which i like (because i have some cassettes and maxi singles that i can't find digitially, but i digress). but after going to the wrecka stowe yesterday, i realize i have a dilemma. will i buy to listen, or to collect, or both. its so expensive. i think i will buy only NEW albums I actually plan to listen to. it was so tempting to see "oversized" plastic wrapped favorites that I only had on CD. is the art inside the same, better or just bigger. in some cases with great cover and inner art. bigger IS better. so, as to not go broke. i decided only 'select' classics that i already have will i re-buy (ATCQ Midnight Marauders, Janet's Velvet Rope, I also saw her Control remixes which I haven't heard, same for Rave Into...).
just wanting to know from the vinly-philes about your approach and how you don't spend ALL your disposable income...its tempting!! | |
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I don't collect vinyl myself, I'm strictly a CD girl, but a friend of mine has a collection of well over 10,000 records. And yes, some of them are crazy expensive. He spent something like $800 on a rare pressing of some 70s funk album no one but him ever heard of. But he actually got most of his collection for relatively cheap prices. He told me one time of how he went into a music store with $50 and walked out with 12 records. Good deals can always be found. Ebay and other such places are a gold mine for budding collectors. Second hand music shops are another great source. | |
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I started with my parents vinyl from the 70s and 80s and after that started buying singles of mj, janet and Madonna. I don’t buy records anymore but regret not picking up a Sheila e one I saw the other day when browsing. I would say start with singles of artists you really like, or buying albums from concerts to support the artist, which my sis does
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I have narrowed down the reasons and artists I buy records of. It's been narrowed down to The Beatles, The Stones, The White Stripes, Prince, Ozzy, Jack White and early records by Elvis, Johnny Cash, and Willie Nelson. Old box sets in relatively good shape according to rarity and availability. Sometimes I get a few copies of something I already have in case the time comes when I need a gift for a fellow record collector.
And, yes, I call them records. Vinyl is the material a record is made of. A record is the thing made out of vinyl.
I like to look at it this way: I don't drive a german metal and fiberglass. I drive a car. [Edited 11/22/20 16:11pm] | |
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lol. point taken. records. i like your narrow approach. i think i should figure out who and what gets my hard earned loot. do you actively listen to them though, or just collect. some for listening, some for posterity (remaining shrink wrapped)? | |
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- My guess is you must be very very young. And if not, I'm a stupid donkey thinking you are off this world. lol - No seriously. If you start out collecting vinyl, or just buy 'm to listen to it, the my recommendation is to go with the flow as a start. I mean, just get what you like, love. From there on you will see if the vinyl-virus, and all it's soaking tentacles of deep interest will get ya. I have over 8000 vinyls (5500x 12", 2500x 7") ... so this is my advice; don't think, buy what you like and through that you might develop an interest for collecting or not. The quality, the artwork, the feel, the warmth is something that will develop appreciation, or not. You have to know there's always less mucis on an older vinyl then there is on a contemporary CD. Artwork on vinyl is often the same as on CD, only the excecution is way much better, because of the size, inner sleeves, posters, etc. New vinyl releases are (very) different from the originals from back in the day. Vinyl from the 70's and 80's is often thin (less than 180gr), though the artwork does get better in quality. Contemporary vinyl and reissues often are in very good wulity (180gr, better print artwork, etc). Collecting does not have to be expensive. Of course, if you want fresh new release, you pay for it. But you can also start looking in second hand shops, or on discogs, or other online second hand sellers. Discogs by the way, is very informative for once you get ore into 1st pressings, of different releases from other countries, misteks (even), bootlegs (too), etc. Discogs is a site where i spend most of my time next to Prince.org, just to have an idea. - Yes I do collect CD's, but only for classical, minimal, ambient, noise, electronic music, etc. I also collect shellac (78rpm), shape, colour/picture disc, flexi and other round cariers. (I don't collect cassettes.) -
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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- Plan your budget on a monthly (or weekly) basis, like that you stick to your money plan. Create a list from what you like to have. And don't buy that instantly as new. Try to develop a network of shops and market places where you regularly can dig in crates to try to find what you like on your list. Talk to the shop owners, so they know what you like,. They alwyas can be very surprising in presenting you new stuff. Avoid new vinyl shops as much as you can. Yes it's the only place where you mostly find the new stuff. And certainly avoid big players and retailer chains. Local erecordshops are way more fun and basically always have more to offer. Also let them know what your budget is. Most of 'm are always heplfull in getting what you want. Create that win-win, even with your tiny budget. Read liner notes, then you start to discover and remember names of producers, engineers, guest musicians, studio players, labels, etc. After a while you will discover new vinyl with these names on it, and it might surprise you in your discovery. Clean your second hand vinyls when you get home (look for tutorials) And after all that, when you get into it, think about investing in a good player and speakers. It will pays off for you listning years to come. -
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Wow, what a great post! I'm older than datdude, but now have the disposable income to invest in vinyl, sound systems etc. So, I am new to it as well, but am excited for the journey.
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datdude said: lol. point taken. records. i like your narrow approach. i think i should figure out who and what gets my hard earned loot. do you actively listen to them though, or just collect. some for listening, some for posterity (remaining shrink wrapped)? I actively listen to them. When I buy them I don't have a vision of selling them or adding to their monetary value. I buy them for the music. When I get them, though, I do store the actual records outside of the sleeves. I buy inner sleeves (the ones with the rice paper) and place the record in one of those, then I place the paper or cardboard sleeve (if it has some artwork) inside the outer sleeve and place the record and sleeve in a protective outer plastic sleeve. This way, the record doesn't leave ring wear over time. | |
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I collect vinyl records.....mostly old records from back in the day (70s,80s).Occasionally,I will buy a new 180 gram reissue of a classic album.Spending a few hous in a used record store (on a Saturday afternoon) is one of my favorite things to do | |
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It's tricky. Lots of LPs from the 60s/70s/80s still sound fantastic... If you're lucky. I bought the original version of The Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers LP, with zipper, but it was full of scratches, so I'm thinking about buying the remastered version, but at the same time I have my doubts about spending €25 on an album I already own. I guess the best thing to do when you are planning to buy old LPs is to take them out of the sleeves, look at them, do they have scratches or not, do they look clean, if they look alright, then buy them and you will have a great time listening to them. [Edited 11/23/20 13:26pm] If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am. | |
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Honestly for me its different now . This year obviously with four different RSD things going on i bought more than before, but also the vinyl that I am also buying are from Indie aritsts and unsigned ones that sell directly from their sites especially now since shows are not happening so i try to support them and i also prefer the vinyl at this point from them. As far as new stuff rarely will I get the vinyls unless they are somewhat not insanely priced, and if i really like the artist, etc... For instance this new McCartney thing I will get a vinyl for, I know some that are buying ever color and color cd but one is good, for RSD things i have bought Duran Duran, a-ha, u2 things, Billy Joel Elton Johnny Cash, Prince here and there etc... and a bunch of 7" singles too. As far as going to things I had and dont have anymore I try to find them used and cheap on ebay for sentimental reasons. As for these giant boxes coming out this year from u2 and ELton John Prince Tom Petty and others in those cases for all i have gone with the CD's because the books are album sized now, in the past the books were cd sized and you need a magnifying glass for, and were a waste, that was the issue I had with Prince 1999 cd box. But this time around I stuck with the CDs in all cases because I didnt want to spend that kind of money on demos and alternate takes and stuff because i find i rarely go back to them so its like spending 250 dollars on a book and the regular album almost and then a bunch of records you rarely play. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Bighead said: datdude said: lol. point taken. records. i like your narrow approach. i think i should figure out who and what gets my hard earned loot. do you actively listen to them though, or just collect. some for listening, some for posterity (remaining shrink wrapped)? I actively listen to them. When I buy them I don't have a vision of selling them or adding to their monetary value. I buy them for the music. When I get them, though, I do store the actual records outside of the sleeves. I buy inner sleeves (the ones with the rice paper) and place the record in one of those, then I place the paper or cardboard sleeve (if it has some artwork) inside the outer sleeve and place the record and sleeve in a protective outer plastic sleeve. This way, the record doesn't leave ring wear over time. super smart to protect the visual "artwork" in that way | |
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I'm sorry for the lack of clarity and context. I'm a 70s baby, so not young at all lol. I grew up with vinyl and all around it. I have the Madhouse side projects a few EWF, Maze, etc. My family has/had tons of vinyl. When I was of age with my own loot, the CD era was in full swing. I have more cassettes than vinyl by far but then more Cds than cassettes. I'm just now contemplating "collecting" vinyl more actively, but being married with kids, there's always more "legit" things to do with "disposable income". a trip to the wreck stowe is a type of "self-care" for me that my wife doesn't really "get" but I think I'll "treat" myself to one purchase on my monthly trek and make it something I don't have in any other format, regardless of if its a "fave" or not. I will buy to listen [Edited 11/23/20 19:53pm] | |
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- You sound exactly like me. lo; - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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- I understand somehow being maried and having kids.. although I'm not maried and have no kids. But I see what your point is. - Another thing that got me far is this: I occasionally go to a public sale. I developed kind of a radar for that now. Sometimes I can hit it off with a full box of vinyl for next to nothing. Sometimes you can even know in advance what's in it. And if there are five good LPs in it, and the vast majority are crap, I'll buy it. The crap I give away. I often don't pay more than 15 up to 50 Euro for such a box. Recently I bought a box of 80+ LPs & Maxi's for 2O Euro, and the quality of the vinyl was mediocre to very good. The finds were extraordinary!! ; two 1st pressings of early Bowie LP's in very good condidtion, and an original Stevie Wonder's ''Original Musiquarium'', in perfect condition. And last but not least, two Maxi's; ''Baby Go Go (Nona Hendrix)'' and Prince's ''Paisley Park''. Plus in that Bowie album was a 45 rpm of ''Sound And Vision''. To be honest, that kind of luck only happens once a few years, so... The rest really was crap (James Last, Demis Rousos, Nana Mouskouri etc). - And I too collect mostly seventies and eighties R'nB, rock and pop. - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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[Edited 11/23/20 23:32pm] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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[Edited 11/23/20 23:33pm] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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- You sound exactly like me. lo; - | |
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u guys are helping me. I think I will hone in on my strategy and only deviate rarely. I do hear abt public sales ocassionaly. a friend of mine got some rare obscure album from a neighbors garage sale and sold it on eBay for $2500😳😳😳. I think I will buy to listen but keep my eyes out for the collectors steal | |
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Speaking of vinyl....today was not only Black Friday,it was also the final Record Store Day of 2020.Check and see what new titles came out. | |
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good points. I've been buying records from 70s-80s artists that i like, and also I've been getting Elvis Presley's releases because they remind me of my dad.
Discogs is my favorite place to go. I like ebay, but some of my purchases there, the condition wasn't described well enough and I ended up with subpar product I had to send back. Discogs I hadn't had that issue(yet). | |
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I love Discogs,too.It's a great place to find old vinyl in excellent quality.Someday when I have more time,I'm gonna sell some vinyl records that I no longer need or want.Some are duplicates. | |
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I buy new releases from artists I love or think are promising. I will slowly add back catalogue titles and bargain finds, as my space dictates. I buy most of Prince Estate's releases. [Edited 11/30/20 7:29am] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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I've had an on-again, off-again love affair with my vinyl fetish.
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Witty post. | |
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If you don't mind me asking, where do you store 8,000 vinyls?
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The only vinyl collection I desire is to refind all the vinyl that escaped me over the years due to moving too much (not too much vinyl) just it's the toughest thing to move if you move a lot.
My vinyl used to consist of about ten Duran Duran 12" remixes including the supposedly rare " Carnival". I also had a couple of Prince albums, a few Madonna albums, early Sade, Whitney Houston Do They Know It's Christmas. Nile Rodgers B movie Matinee, i have a couple of Chic 45's still, I had a bunch of Donna Summer and Chaka Kahn, and Vanity, I had Frankie goes to Hollywood, Billy Idol and Robert Palmer Power Station Simply Red Arcadia Madhouse # something or other, the cover with the girl the dog and the oozo, apparently once I found full time work after the 80's I stopped being a collector. I had The Black Album not a rare copy and I remember being like I can see why he said don't buy it lol My mom still has my Grease 1 & 2 albums and Saturday Night Fever and Barbara Streisand and Barry Manilo some Elvis boots (i knew they were boots when I was about 9) I think that's it I can't remember as I was a horrible collector. The answer is I would approach Collecting vinyl again like a scavenger hunt and I forgot to mention the local record stores and electric fetus is great. [Edited 11/30/20 18:32pm] Welcome to "the org", heartpeacesheart…
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My newest vinyl purchase: a Record Store Day exclusive....a reissue of War's 1976 Greatest Hits album on gold vinyl This is the kind of stuff that I can't resist....remastered,reissued classic albums especially when it's on colored vinyl!
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i don't collect vinyl. i buy records to listen to them. that's how i always have done. new releases,used... records on my 'hi-fi' are my preferred method of hearing music. nothing quite equals the warm tone of a record through large speakers filling a room. it's the closest you can get to having the musicians play live in your living room. i do own quite a few collectible/rare/valuable records, but they all get played. everything's been opened. nothing is on display. | |
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