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Reply #30 posted 12/10/20 9:25pm

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JayCrawford said:

MotownSubdivision said:

I admit I'm not a big fan of Grunge and highly prefer the more OTT and intricate guitar work of hair metal and 80s rock in general but grunge was more of a movement than anything.

Hip hop was definitely groundbreaking in how it was being consumed by the masses. The genre was thought to be a passing fad in its inception and ended up blowing up and seeing success in the form of Top 20, 10 and #1 hit songs and albums. Gangsta rap was mostly a show as we look back on it but a lot of what was said in those records was based on varying degrees of truth whether the emcees behind them witnessed these stories first hand, heard of them or even participated in them. Ultimately, it's all entertainment like all the genres it was competing against on the charts. I'll give you the R&B gripe; we need to fence off the R&B and hip hop once again. What used to be a varied, multifaceted genre has become one-note and dull to the point where now it's R&B in name only.

The time for 70s nostalgia was in the 90s and though I was no older than 5 by decade's end, I remember it well. It's fitting since the 90s music scene shares a strong similarity to that of the 70s in that "pop" at the time was a variety of genres that caught on with the public. Throughout the 70s, you had many examples of funk, R&B/soul, rock, country, singer-songwriter/acoustic,folk and of course, disco dominating. 20-29 years later, you had many genres if rock (namely alt rock and the aforementioned Grunge), R&B, neo-soul, hip hop/rap, New Jack Swing, country and teen pop at the tail end making the decade.

Besides, 1994 is a Top 10 All-Time year for music. A little biased since that's my premiere year but looking at what was hot back then, it was an incredible time for music with star power and even more variety up and down. The color of the 90s wasn't as saturated as that of the 80s but every decade has its own personality; just might not be one you vibe with although I definitely do and as I research more charts from the time, I'm vibing all the more.
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Grunge was a terrible movement and it did more harm to rock then good with a bunch of garbage artists who mumbled their lyrics and 90% of them were terribly on the guitar and much of rock artists like Kurt Cobain playing the whole "I'm just pissed off" gimmick and bashing his head against sound speakers in concerts etc etc.

Your 70s post pretty much shows why 90s music wasn't a very innovating era or a good era for music. It was 90% nonstop sampling and covering of older hits, trying to rehash everything the 70s had. Just because the 90s had variety of genres doesn't always mean it's a good thing, is all about the quality of the work, 70s had a far superior quality and more groundbreaking, innovating moments where's the 90s didn't. The 90s definitely does not have any similarities with the 70s lol

The whole R&B department was just terrible, next to the 00s, 90s R&B was terrible especially once they mixed hip hop in between, the whole New Jack swing stuff produced so many 1 hit wonders.

1994? It was okay you're overrating it a lot 1991 was much better and the last good year in my opinion. I don't know what star power you saw in 94 but 1991 far better star power lol.
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OK Boomer lol

Nah but seriously, in the way I mentioned, the 90s did share similarities to the 70s in that pop music was mainly whatever individual genre was popular. Pop in and of itself wasn't the leading force until later in the decade similar to the disco boom of the late 70s.

Why are One-Hit Wonders a bad thing? They add diversity. A single year in the 80s probably had far more 1HW's then the entirety of the 90s but you don't wanna bring that up :lol:

90s R&B became more one-note and same sounding than that of the 2 prior decades but don't act like it had NOTHING good out of all it gave. It may not be saying much but I'll take another sweaty 90s R&B scene over the vocally inept R&B scene of today. Easily.

Of all decades, the 90s ain't known for its covers but I miss the days when covers were hits. You know you're exaggerating with that 90% nonstop sampling line; there was more than enough original compositions throughout the 90s and even then, what's wrong with sampling?

1994 > 1991. '91 may have been more pivotal but give me a year where you can hear 2Pac followed by Elton John followed by Mariah followed by Alice in Chains followed by Janet followed by The Pretenders followed by Snoop Dogg any day over '91 with its Timmy T's and Stevie B's in the hit parade. Michael Jackson having chart presence and dropping an album in '91 gives it points but naaahhhhht enough to outdo the superior, more vibrant '94.
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Reply #31 posted 12/11/20 1:51am

JayCrawford

MotownSubdivision said:

JayCrawford said:




Grunge was a terrible movement and it did more harm to rock then good with a bunch of garbage artists who mumbled their lyrics and 90% of them were terribly on the guitar and much of rock artists like Kurt Cobain playing the whole "I'm just pissed off" gimmick and bashing his head against sound speakers in concerts etc etc.

Your 70s post pretty much shows why 90s music wasn't a very innovating era or a good era for music. It was 90% nonstop sampling and covering of older hits, trying to rehash everything the 70s had. Just because the 90s had variety of genres doesn't always mean it's a good thing, is all about the quality of the work, 70s had a far superior quality and more groundbreaking, innovating moments where's the 90s didn't. The 90s definitely does not have any similarities with the 70s lol

The whole R&B department was just terrible, next to the 00s, 90s R&B was terrible especially once they mixed hip hop in between, the whole New Jack swing stuff produced so many 1 hit wonders.

1994? It was okay you're overrating it a lot 1991 was much better and the last good year in my opinion. I don't know what star power you saw in 94 but 1991 far better star power lol.
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OK Boomer lol

Nah but seriously, in the way I mentioned, the 90s did share similarities to the 70s in that pop music was mainly whatever individual genre was popular. Pop in and of itself wasn't the leading force until later in the decade similar to the disco boom of the late 70s.

Why are One-Hit Wonders a bad thing? They add diversity. A single year in the 80s probably had far more 1HW's then the entirety of the 90s but you don't wanna bring that up :lol:

90s R&B became more one-note and same sounding than that of the 2 prior decades but don't act like it had NOTHING good out of all it gave. It may not be saying much but I'll take another sweaty 90s R&B scene over the vocally inept R&B scene of today. Easily.

Of all decades, the 90s ain't known for its covers but I miss the days when covers were hits. You know you're exaggerating with that 90% nonstop sampling line; there was more than enough original compositions throughout the 90s and even then, what's wrong with sampling?

1994 > 1991. '91 may have been more pivotal but give me a year where you can hear 2Pac followed by Elton John followed by Mariah followed by Alice in Chains followed by Janet followed by The Pretenders followed by Snoop Dogg any day over '91 with its Timmy T's and Stevie B's in the hit parade. Michael Jackson having chart presence and dropping an album in '91 gives it points but naaahhhhht enough to outdo the superior, more vibrant '94.



The 90s were definitely known for covers... Especially sampling too. I'm over e exaggerating? Oh ok I was there when it was happening and it was common complaint then.

What's wrong with sampling? It's called lazy ass work and people not being creative at all, nothing new came out when it came to the R&B department. The 90s aren't known for covers? 🤣

The R&B department really didn't have anything good. I'm from a time when that genre was at its best and I definitely witnessed the downfall for it around the late 80s.

No the 90s didn't have anything similar to the 70s what the hell lol? That whole 70s nostalgia you were talking about earlier was due to the fact that the disco revival was happening for a bit and they were constantly releasing 70s compilation albums of Bee Gees, Donna Summer, Abba and they were doing 70s celebration shows, they even had a show called "That 70s show" releasing 70s disco documentaries too and I definitely remember it a lot better than you no offence. Even Donna Summer was talking about this too in old magazine interviews back then. I'm actually old enough to remember this, was in my 30s then. They were even doing the same thing in the 00s as well.

1991 gave us far superior quality of work than 1994.
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Reply #32 posted 12/11/20 2:03am

JayCrawford

Only if this website had a poll lol. But so far from what I've seen from people.

70s is the number 1 winner
80s is close second
60s is doing bad sad lol but the love is still there


No love for the other 3 garbage eras which is understandable.

But overall I can't blame those who are picking those 3 eras, it was golden then.
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Reply #33 posted 12/11/20 4:17am

Dalia11

The 1970s.
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Reply #34 posted 12/11/20 9:47am

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JayCrawford said:

MotownSubdivision said:

OK Boomer lol

Nah but seriously, in the way I mentioned, the 90s did share similarities to the 70s in that pop music was mainly whatever individual genre was popular. Pop in and of itself wasn't the leading force until later in the decade similar to the disco boom of the late 70s.

Why are One-Hit Wonders a bad thing? They add diversity. A single year in the 80s probably had far more 1HW's then the entirety of the 90s but you don't wanna bring that up :lol:

90s R&B became more one-note and same sounding than that of the 2 prior decades but don't act like it had NOTHING good out of all it gave. It may not be saying much but I'll take another sweaty 90s R&B scene over the vocally inept R&B scene of today. Easily.

Of all decades, the 90s ain't known for its covers but I miss the days when covers were hits. You know you're exaggerating with that 90% nonstop sampling line; there was more than enough original compositions throughout the 90s and even then, what's wrong with sampling?

1994 > 1991. '91 may have been more pivotal but give me a year where you can hear 2Pac followed by Elton John followed by Mariah followed by Alice in Chains followed by Janet followed by The Pretenders followed by Snoop Dogg any day over '91 with its Timmy T's and Stevie B's in the hit parade. Michael Jackson having chart presence and dropping an album in '91 gives it points but naaahhhhht enough to outdo the superior, more vibrant '94.



The 90s were definitely known for covers... Especially sampling too. I'm over e exaggerating? Oh ok I was there when it was happening and it was common complaint then.

What's wrong with sampling? It's called lazy ass work and people not being creative at all, nothing new came out when it came to the R&B department. The 90s aren't known for covers? 🤣

The R&B department really didn't have anything good. I'm from a time when that genre was at its best and I definitely witnessed the downfall for it around the late 80s.

No the 90s didn't have anything similar to the 70s what the hell lol? That whole 70s nostalgia you were talking about earlier was due to the fact that the disco revival was happening for a bit and they were constantly releasing 70s compilation albums of Bee Gees, Donna Summer, Abba and they were doing 70s celebration shows, they even had a show called "That 70s show" releasing 70s disco documentaries too and I definitely remember it a lot better than you no offence. Even Donna Summer was talking about this too in old magazine interviews back then. I'm actually old enough to remember this, was in my 30s then. They were even doing the same thing in the 00s as well.

1991 gave us far superior quality of work than 1994.
You're not listening to what I'm saying so I'm just gonna let you have your opinion and disagree with it.
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Reply #35 posted 12/11/20 10:08am

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Grunge was a terrible movement and it did more harm to rock then good with a bunch of garbage artists who mumbled their lyrics and 90% of them were terribly on the guitar and much of rock artists like Kurt Cobain playing the whole "I'm just pissed off" gimmick and bashing his head against sound speakers in concerts etc etc

Pretty much the entire idea of 1970s punk rock, which is part of your "golden era". lol Punk was partly a rebellion against the technical playing of progressive rock bands with long solos and 20 minute songs. Punk was originally about not playing well and that anyone could make music. Audiences at punk concerts would often spit on each other or at the band onstage.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #36 posted 12/11/20 10:09am

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MotownSubdivision said:

JayCrawford said:




The 90s were definitely known for covers... Especially sampling too. I'm over e exaggerating? Oh ok I was there when it was happening and it was common complaint then.

What's wrong with sampling? It's called lazy ass work and people not being creative at all, nothing new came out when it came to the R&B department. The 90s aren't known for covers? 🤣

The R&B department really didn't have anything good. I'm from a time when that genre was at its best and I definitely witnessed the downfall for it around the late 80s.

No the 90s didn't have anything similar to the 70s what the hell lol? That whole 70s nostalgia you were talking about earlier was due to the fact that the disco revival was happening for a bit and they were constantly releasing 70s compilation albums of Bee Gees, Donna Summer, Abba and they were doing 70s celebration shows, they even had a show called "That 70s show" releasing 70s disco documentaries too and I definitely remember it a lot better than you no offence. Even Donna Summer was talking about this too in old magazine interviews back then. I'm actually old enough to remember this, was in my 30s then. They were even doing the same thing in the 00s as well.

1991 gave us far superior quality of work than 1994.
You're not listening to what I'm saying so I'm just gonna let you have your opinion and disagree with it.


The thing what I said wasn't an opinion, the whole 70s nostalgia was happening because they were doing a shit load of compilations of the old 70s stars, they were doing 70s celebration shows, they had a sitcom called That 70s show. Once again Donna Summer spoke about this in old magazine interviews, go and do some research. Do some research next time. They were even doing re-release of I Feel Love back then.

For you to compare the 90s to the 70s is laughable lol. That is the first time I've heard of this 🤣. Is mostly youngings who were born in the 90s who make these hilarious comparisons to the 70s

Once again do some research.
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Reply #37 posted 12/11/20 10:20am

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MickyDolenz said:



JayCrawford said:


Grunge was a terrible movement and it did more harm to rock then good with a bunch of garbage artists who mumbled their lyrics and 90% of them were terribly on the guitar and much of rock artists like Kurt Cobain playing the whole "I'm just pissed off" gimmick and bashing his head against sound speakers in concerts etc etc

Pretty much the entire idea of 1970s punk rock, which is part of your "golden era". lol Punk was partly a rebellion against the technical playing of progressive rock bands with long solos and 20 minute songs. Punk was originally about not playing well and that anyone could make music. Audiences at punk concerts would often spit on each other or at the band onstage.




The only difference is that the 70s rock stars had talent. Nirvana didn't
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Reply #38 posted 12/11/20 10:21am

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JayCrawford said:

MotownSubdivision said:

You're not listening to what I'm saying so I'm just gonna let you have your opinion and disagree with it.


The thing what I said wasn't an opinion, the whole 70s nostalgia was happening because they were doing a shit load of compilations of the old 70s stars, they were doing 70s celebration shows, they had a sitcom called That 70s show. Once again Donna Summer spoke about this in old magazine interviews, go and do some research. Do some research next time. They were even doing re-release of I Feel Love back then.

For you to compare the 90s to the 70s is laughable lol. That is the first time I've heard of this 🤣. Is mostly youngings who were born in the 90s who make these hilarious comparisons to the 70s

Once again do some research.
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The tone of this convo sure took a turn...

Once again, you're not listening to what I said just so you can push your opinion on the 90s (yes, your opinion) as fact. I was very clear when I said there were some similarities between the 70s and the 90s and here you are simply parroting what I originally said about nostalgia for the 70s being a thing in the 90s in some weird attempt to refute what I stated about mostly non-pop genres dominating in both decades (which they did). It doesn't matter if you prefer the genres of the 70s over those of the 90s, both music scenes had their own respective flavors of non-pop making up the charts. Am I getting through to you now, gramps?

Comprehend what I actually said instead of trying to argue for the sake of it.
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Reply #39 posted 12/11/20 10:33am

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JayCrawford said:

The thing what I said wasn't an opinion, the whole 70s nostalgia was happening because they were doing a shit load of compilations of the old 70s stars, they were doing 70s celebration shows, they had a sitcom called That 70s show.

What is this then?


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #40 posted 12/11/20 10:37am

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The only difference is that the 70s rock stars had talent. Nirvana didn't

I didn't say "rock stars" which would be like Boston, Fleetwood Mac, or Eagles. I said punk rock like Sex Pistols or The Slits.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #41 posted 12/11/20 11:53am

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I couldn't do without Prince's Golden Age or the best of hip-hop, so I'd choose the 80's, even though on the whole, the 70's were better.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #42 posted 12/11/20 12:00pm

jaawwnn

2010s, just out of spite for this thread.

And because there was PLENTY of great stuff released.
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Reply #43 posted 12/12/20 12:18am

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MickyDolenz said:



JayCrawford said:


The thing what I said wasn't an opinion, the whole 70s nostalgia was happening because they were doing a shit load of compilations of the old 70s stars, they were doing 70s celebration shows, they had a sitcom called That 70s show.

What is this then?









If you knew how to how actually read instead of cherry picking my comments like you have been doing then you would actually know that I said the 70s nostalgia happened in the 90s which is a fact, didn't say anything about 90s nostalgia But continue with the cherry picking
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Reply #44 posted 12/12/20 12:32am

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MotownSubdivision said:

JayCrawford said:



The thing what I said wasn't an opinion, the whole 70s nostalgia was happening because they were doing a shit load of compilations of the old 70s stars, they were doing 70s celebration shows, they had a sitcom called That 70s show. Once again Donna Summer spoke about this in old magazine interviews, go and do some research. Do some research next time. They were even doing re-release of I Feel Love back then.

For you to compare the 90s to the 70s is laughable lol. That is the first time I've heard of this 🤣. Is mostly youngings who were born in the 90s who make these hilarious comparisons to the 70s

Once again do some research.
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The tone of this convo sure took a turn...

Once again, you're not listening to what I said just so you can push your opinion on the 90s (yes, your opinion) as fact. I was very clear when I said there were some similarities between the 70s and the 90s and here you are simply parroting what I originally said about nostalgia for the 70s being a thing in the 90s in some weird attempt to refute what I stated about mostly non-pop genres dominating in both decades (which they did). It doesn't matter if you prefer the genres of the 70s over those of the 90s, both music scenes had their own respective flavors of non-pop making up the charts. Am I getting through to you now, gramps?

Comprehend what I actually said instead of trying to argue for the sake of it.
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I already have comprehended on what you said and no it wasn't an opinion on what you said about the 90s being similar to the 70s, in fact no one unless they were just babies then compares the 90s to the 70s in terms of variety of music lol. That is the first time I have heard hilarious comparison 😂

You were wrong about WHY the 70s nostalgia was happening in the 90s that is my whole point I'm trying to get to your clueless skull little boy.


I'm being told by some 90s baby who wasn't even alive then... These kids.


https://www.google.com/am...y,amp.html

http://www.donna-tribute....times.html

Let's not forget a sitcom called That 70s Show, Abba, Donna Summer, Village people, Bee Gees compilations that were being released then..once again your reasonings as to why the 70s nostalgia was happening was wrong.

These kids.
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Reply #45 posted 12/12/20 12:37am

JayCrawford

MotownSubdivision said:

JayCrawford said:



The thing what I said wasn't an opinion, the whole 70s nostalgia was happening because they were doing a shit load of compilations of the old 70s stars, they were doing 70s celebration shows, they had a sitcom called That 70s show. Once again Donna Summer spoke about this in old magazine interviews, go and do some research. Do some research next time. They were even doing re-release of I Feel Love back then.

For you to compare the 90s to the 70s is laughable lol. That is the first time I've heard of this 🤣. Is mostly youngings who were born in the 90s who make these hilarious comparisons to the 70s

Once again do some research.
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The tone of this convo sure took a turn...

Once again, you're not listening to what I said just so you can push your opinion on the 90s (yes, your opinion) as fact. I was very clear when I said there were some similarities between the 70s and the 90s and here you are simply parroting what I originally said about nostalgia for the 70s being a thing in the 90s in some weird attempt to refute what I stated about mostly non-pop genres dominating in both decades (which they did). It doesn't matter if you prefer the genres of the 70s over those of the 90s, both music scenes had their own respective flavors of non-pop making up the charts. Am I getting through to you now, gramps?

Comprehend what I actually said instead of trying to argue for the sake of it.
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"both music scenes had their own respective flavors of non-pop making up the chart"

Opinion... Not a fact, sorry kid.

70s and 90s have 0 similarities lol. This is the first time I'm hearing this.
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Reply #46 posted 12/12/20 7:48am

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If you knew how to how actually read instead of cherry picking my comments like you have been doing then you would actually know that I said the 70s nostalgia happened in the 90s which is a fact, didn't say anything about 90s nostalgia But continue with the cherry picking

What's unique about that? There was 1950s nostalgia in the 1970s (Sha Na Na, Happy Days, Grease, etc). In the 1980s it was the 1960s (Big Chill, Motown 25, The Beatles on CD, The Monkees, The New Gidget, Return To Mayberry, etc). There was 1930s in the 1990s too with bands like Cherry Poppin' Daddies & Big Bad Voodoo Daddy getting hit songs and the 1960s with movie versions of The Beverly Hillbilles, The Addams Family, and The Avengers (TV spy show not Marvel Comics). Your comments doesn't make a lot of sense. You say grunge was bad, but grunge isn't much differnt from punk rock which was in the 1970s. Punk had the same kind of angry young man songs, it was just played faster and the singers tended to yell their vocals. Same with 1960s garage bands, they didn't have a overly polished sound. The free jazz of the 1960s didn't sound pretty either. The sound of grunge is similar to some 1970s hard rock & stoner rock as well. The first hip hop records came out in the 1979 and it was a local thing NYC for a few years before that. You said in the Dru Hill/Jodeci thread that all they did was moan. What do you think Barry White was doing? Some of those New Jack Swing era singers was copying the vocal style of Charlie Wilson from The Gap Band, especially Aaron Hall. There were proto-rap records before

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #47 posted 12/12/20 9:03am

MotownSubdivis
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JayCrawford said:

MotownSubdivision said:

The tone of this convo sure took a turn...

Once again, you're not listening to what I said just so you can push your opinion on the 90s (yes, your opinion) as fact. I was very clear when I said there were some similarities between the 70s and the 90s and here you are simply parroting what I originally said about nostalgia for the 70s being a thing in the 90s in some weird attempt to refute what I stated about mostly non-pop genres dominating in both decades (which they did). It doesn't matter if you prefer the genres of the 70s over those of the 90s, both music scenes had their own respective flavors of non-pop making up the charts. Am I getting through to you now, gramps?

Comprehend what I actually said instead of trying to argue for the sake of it.
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I already have comprehended on what you said and no it wasn't an opinion on what you said about the 90s being similar to the 70s, in fact no one unless they were just babies then compares the 90s to the 70s in terms of variety of music lol. That is the first time I have heard hilarious comparison 😂

You were wrong about WHY the 70s nostalgia was happening in the 90s that is my whole point I'm trying to get to your clueless skull little boy.


I'm being told by some 90s baby who wasn't even alive then... These kids.


https://www.google.com/am...y,amp.html

http://www.donna-tribute....times.html

Let's not forget a sitcom called That 70s Show, Abba, Donna Summer, Village people, Bee Gees compilations that were being released then..once again your reasonings as to why the 70s nostalgia was happening was wrong.

These kids.
Uh, no... you haven't comprehended anything lol. Reading comprehension clearly is a weakness of yours since you've only twisted what I've said to form your own narrative.

No sense debating with you if you're just intentionally trying to miss a very simple point that's being made. I'm just gonna disagree with your opinions and leave it at that.
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Reply #48 posted 12/12/20 9:42am

JayCrawford

MotownSubdivision said:

JayCrawford said:



I already have comprehended on what you said and no it wasn't an opinion on what you said about the 90s being similar to the 70s, in fact no one unless they were just babies then compares the 90s to the 70s in terms of variety of music lol. That is the first time I have heard hilarious comparison 😂

You were wrong about WHY the 70s nostalgia was happening in the 90s that is my whole point I'm trying to get to your clueless skull little boy.


I'm being told by some 90s baby who wasn't even alive then... These kids.


https://www.google.com/am...y,amp.html

http://www.donna-tribute....times.html

Let's not forget a sitcom called That 70s Show, Abba, Donna Summer, Village people, Bee Gees compilations that were being released then..once again your reasonings as to why the 70s nostalgia was happening was wrong.

These kids.
Uh, no... you haven't comprehended anything lol. Reading comprehension clearly is a weakness of yours since you've only twisted what I've said to form your own narrative.

No sense debating with you if you're just intentionally trying to miss a very simple point that's being made. I'm just gonna disagree with your opinions and leave it at that.
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Ok buddy 🤣
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Reply #49 posted 12/12/20 10:23am

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MickyDolenz said:



JayCrawford said:


If you knew how to how actually read instead of cherry picking my comments like you have been doing then you would actually know that I said the 70s nostalgia happened in the 90s which is a fact, didn't say anything about 90s nostalgia But continue with the cherry picking

What's unique about that? There was 1950s nostalgia in the 1970s (Sha Na Na, Happy Days, Grease, etc). In the 1980s it was the 1960s (Big Chill, Motown 25, The Beatles on CD, The Monkees, The New Gidget, Return To Mayberry, etc). There was 1930s in the 1990s too with bands like Cherry Poppin' Daddies & Big Bad Voodoo Daddy getting hit songs and the 1960s with movie versions of The Beverly Hillbilles, The Addams Family, and The Avengers (TV spy show not Marvel Comics). Your comments doesn't make a lot of sense. You say grunge was bad, but grunge isn't much differnt from punk rock which was in the 1970s. Punk had the same kind of angry young man songs, it was just played faster and the singers tended to yell their vocals. Same with 1960s garage bands, they didn't have a overly polished sound. The free jazz of the 1960s didn't sound pretty either. The sound of grunge is similar to some 1970s hard rock & stoner rock as well. The first hip hop records came out in the 1979 and it was a local thing NYC for a few years before that. You said in the Dru Hill/Jodeci thread that all they did was moan. What do you think Barry White was doing? Some of those New Jack Swing era singers was copying the vocal style of Charlie Wilson from The Gap Band, especially Aaron Hall. There were proto-rap records before





Your comment about the 90s New Jack swing artists proved my point about copying previous work.

Difference between Barry White and those untalented boy bands is that Barry was actually a great singer and a great producer, the fact that you even compared Barry to them says something. All Jodeci and Dru Hill were actually doing moaning no singing.

60s and 70s was the golden age of rock which includes all types of rock music.

You bringing up nostalgia of each decade is pointless because if you were actually reading the whole conversation throughout this thread instead of cherry picking then you would know why me and the user were talking about it... In fact I didn't even bring up the 70s nostalgia first at all

Rap wasn't becoming huge in mainstream untill around the late 80s.

Next time try and read the thread properly
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Reply #50 posted 12/12/20 12:10pm

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JayCrawford said:

Your comment about the 90s New Jack swing artists proved my point about copying previous work. Difference between Barry White and those untalented boy bands is that Barry was actually a great singer and a great producer, the fact that you even compared Barry to them says something. All Jodeci and Dru Hill were actually doing moaning no singing.

All artists copied something else, including all of those white artists the entire history of recorded music who made music that originated from black artists and became more popular:

Benny Goodman

Glenn Miller

Al Jolson

Elvis Presley

Rolling Stones

Bee Gees

Eric Clapton

Wham!/George Michael

Doobie Brothers

The Who

The Beatles

Pat Boone

Stevie Ray Vaughan

The Police/Sting

Culture Club

New Kids On The Block

*NSYNC

Daryl Hall & John Oates

and so on

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #51 posted 12/12/20 12:17pm

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I'd have to say 80's for sure, though I feel the 70's produced the strongest artists who have stood the test of time I feel the 80's offered more and also had to balance itself with artistry and also the birth of visuals with MTV.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #52 posted 12/12/20 12:19pm

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lastdecember said:

I'd have to say 80's for sure, though I feel the 70's produced the strongest artists who have stood the test of time I feel the 80's offered more and also had to balance itself with artistry and also the birth of visuals with MTV.



Not even just the birth. The golden age of MTV too before it went downhill in the 90s.
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Reply #53 posted 12/12/20 4:50pm

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SoulAlive said:

the 70s

yeahthat especially 70s Funk music

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #54 posted 12/13/20 9:06pm

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Shit music from the 90's sounds amazing compared to today.

I was listening to Shaq's "Can't Stop The Reign" on Youtube. When Shaq tried to become a rapper, people saw it as a bit of a joke. A Shaq rap album was a novelty, sort of corny to imagine.

Sounds like a masterpiece today.

I could probably get by on nothing but 70's and 80's music. Would be hard to give up the 90's, but the 70's and 80's have it beat.

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Reply #55 posted 12/13/20 10:44pm

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Impossible for me to pick a decade, because each one (from the 60s to the early 00s) has something to offer. I was born at the right time (1961), and I was lucky to have parents who listened to just about everything (except for rock, which I discovered on my own). My dad's vinyl collection was insane......all the great artists from Motown, Stax/Atlantic, Blue Note, Verve, Polydor, Capitol, etc. That was a huge influence on me and my younger brother.

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Reply #56 posted 12/13/20 10:52pm

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80's and 90's, the 90's had some amazing new music, 70's has some good songs, i never listen to 60's music, hard to listen to these days

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Reply #57 posted 12/14/20 4:31am

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Superstition said:

Shit music from the 90's sounds amazing compared to today.



I was listening to Shaq's "Can't Stop The Reign" on Youtube. When Shaq tried to become a rapper, people saw it as a bit of a joke. A Shaq rap album was a novelty, sort of corny to imagine.



Sounds like a masterpiece today.



I could probably get by on nothing but 70's and 80's music. Would be hard to give up the 90's, but the 70's and 80's have it beat.




These arguments about the 90s Vs today's music are some of the weakest I've read.

90% of 90s music was just rehash and samples, No golden age for any genres unlike the 60s-80s.
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Reply #58 posted 12/14/20 4:32am

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nextedition said:

80's and 90's, the 90's had some amazing new music, 70's has some good songs, i never listen to 60's music, hard to listen to these days



90s had amazing new music? Such ass?
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Reply #59 posted 12/14/20 4:36am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Impossible for me to pick a decade, because each one (from the 60s to the early 00s) has something to offer. I was born at the right time (1961), and I was lucky to have parents who listened to just about everything (except for rock, which I discovered on my own). My dad's vinyl collection was insane.....all the great artists from Motown, Stax/Atlantic, Blue Note, Verve, Polydor, Capitol, etc. That was a huge influence on me and my younger brother.





And what did the 90s and 00s have to offer? Besides shitty so called gangster rap and grunge what else?
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